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Pekka is offline Pekka
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Kid, I know but I CARE.. I mean I have to.. I have to be perfect for my sake. So I know I did the best I could and there will be no what ifs.

ajbera, I KNOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!1111111

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Kid, I know but I CARE.. I mean I have to.. I have to be perfect for my sake. So I know I did the best I could and there will be no what ifs.


What if you screw around for another 7 years and she finds someone else?

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skywise, yeah I know I should be doing it like that but.. I'm chicken. Well, I do have a master plan though taht would be perfect. That would be to call out the people, and call everyone for a drink. THEN it's easy to take on from there. And I can do it then. So why am I not doing it already? Don't ask me questions like that!

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Pekka, you disappoint me very much....Dont make up silly high school plans like that to meet a girl that is/was your friend.
Simple, call her up, tell her that you were thinking about her and thought "Hey, I should call her" so you did and then tell her you'd like to go and have a drink with her. If she says yes, half the work is done cuz you know shes atleast "interested" in seeing you and you dont have old friends keeping you from talking to her all night and playing yo game. If she says no, no time waisted with old friends you dont really want to see again, cuz if you did, you would have called them a while ago.
Easy as that.

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Supersissy

grow some balls. I mean, if you people wouldn't have told me that calling that chick from the flowers would be a creepy idea, I would totally call her!

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Pekka, you disappoint me very much....Dont make up silly high school plans like that to meet a girl that is/was your friend.
Simple, call her up, tell her that you were thinking about her and thought "Hey, I should call her" so you did and then tell her you'd like to go and have a drink with her. If she says yes, half the work is done cuz you know shes atleast "interested" in seeing you and you dont have old friends keeping you from talking to her all night and playing yo game. If she says no, no time waisted with old friends you dont really want to see again, cuz if you did, you would have called them a while ago.
Easy as that.




Really Pekka, if she's that important to you, don't fvck around. Just give it a shot. I cannot stress this enough. I know you're scared; get past it. JUST DO IT.

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Az, I think we are talking about a different situation than calling some random chick someone just met.

And the rest of you bastards will burn in hell.

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Pekka, We're only trying to help you.

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Advice: if you wait for the perfect moment, you'll be waiting forever. The perfect moment almost never comes, and it's (practically) impossible to manufacture. Call her out of the blue, tell her you wanted to talk because you had been thinking about her. Talk. Find out what she's like these days. Reminisce a bit, and make her laugh. See where it goes from there.

But do not, do not, do not wait for a "perfect moment". Big mistake.


True, so true. I made that mistake once in my life. And now the hotest chick i'd ever been 'connected' with has decided to be a lesbian

Wow - i stewed for over 10 years with that one - i should have made a move sooner. But like Pekka is saying sometimes it can be difficult, and there was a simular situ in many ways(i first met her through a buddy who was seeing her - so off limits for the first 3 years i knew her).

We are still great friends, and i'm in the best relationship(with my current gf) i've ever had - so i can't complain.

But even so..........'what if........' i'll never know.

Pekka you really dont want to live with that - it can break all but the strongest men

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Did we hit you right in your ego? Or did you hit yourself?

So supercitizen has a weakness. Girls to you are like cryptonite to superman. They make you weak.

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you didn't call yet ?

man, waiting for godot is going to do you any good. call her, capture her with your undoubtadely charming personality and get it going !!!

... and give us some info !!!

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No you didn't hit my ego. You are just not telling me anything new and it turns the knife in my heart.

Girls are not cryptonite to me, but this particular girl is definitely me achilles heel. I will call her. Yes I will. I just need to get over making up things to worry and call.. I just try to prepare, get more things done, make myself better etc, but I know that way I'll never call. There will be a point where I need to say screw it and just call, I'm now good enough already. good enough meaning that I can say I did my best, it didn't work out. That's acceptable. But even if it doesn't work out for simple reasons, I will blame myself for not being the best I was getting in it. Kind of like going ot the Olympics, I want to k now I did everything as best as I knew how and gave my all, if I finish last, then it's OK. But if I finish second, and I didn't push it all the way, I'll beat myself fo rthe rest of my life.

It's only head games now. I'm a worrier by nature anyway, so I know there always will be worries I just need to cut the act and call at some point, preferrably sooner than later.

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What do you mean you need to get better, if you think you arent good enough, you have already lost.

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No I don't mean like that. I mean like, I need to get a new hair cut, I need to .. get better shoes.. Stuff like that. Superficial stuff really.

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a new haircut ? new shoes ?

like she will give a damn if she sees her friend back after 2 years. she'll just be happy i guess...

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I think you have some self-esteem issues to deal with Pekka.

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You don't need to get better, you need to be happy with who you are and if she thinks you aren't good enough, then who cares you find someone else. You shouldn't need this ONE person's approval.

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DAMN IT I KNOW! I said I'm a worrier! With stuff that matters, I climb the walls. Usually i don't care about stuff. Like let's take girls. I don't worry about asking girls out. I just ask. But then again, I have no expectations, I have no built in stuff from years.

Hey, I worried I wouldn't get a student visa so much (to states) that I ended up applying into local Unis instead. I'm a worrier. And it's disabling sometimes, but only when it's about high stakes, stuff that I care for. And I will call her. Just not right now .

If you'd realize that I also realize it's not about shoes. It's about being afraid to fail. Losing face is like Japanese thing in here. It's just not that simple, even when it is exactly that very simple.

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Kid, No it's not that. Should I explain it 11th time? I worry a lot and this means very much to me, I got one shot at it and I just need to feel 100% good about it.

Yeah yeah what EVER!

MODS you can DELETE this thread any time you see fit, the sooner the better.

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Oh, you need to "polish" yourself? Well you know she probably doesnt care about those things and if she does...maybe its not you. Its not good to base relationship on new shoes and hair cut...Just brush your teeth and kiss her, then point to your filthy hair and say you are having a "real job" like a construction guy...Or just get rid of the whole hair...hair sucks anyway. Of course we'd all want to give the best impression about ourselves when we meet some nice girl but being natural and yourself works much better or at least just as well.

Just call her and try to appear like you dont have anything special in mind. Say something like "Hey I was just browsing through my address book and saw you here, so I though i'd give you a call. So, how are you?"

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Kid, No it's not that. Should I explain it 11th time? I worry a lot and this means very much to me, I got one shot at it and I just need to feel 100% good about it.


I think something in your subconscious makes you so in love with this person. You have made her out to be some sort of Godess, when she is just a women, and you don't allow yourself to get intimate with other women, but at the same time you won't tell this one how you feel.

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pekka, the worior...

man, do whatever you want, but do not hesitate too long. each passing second is an opportunity that is lost forever...

good luck !!!

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laurentius, uh that's a better idea. I've been thinking my opening line, give the reason why I called. So.. but that's actually a good one. Yeah.. I might use that

No no it's not that if I .. like I said. I, ME, needs to feel good about myself when I go for it. I feel good about myself already people, ok, but I am kind of strict how I should appear and go on about with life. Why do you think I'm obsessed with gyms and nutrition and stuff, yes I like healthy and the way it feels. But also because I'm worried about my appearance. And I KNOW I'm a handsome bastard too, but I have high self critique. I always feel like I'm failing even though I'd be the first. Before I hear I was first that is . I have weird mindset. When I win 3 euros in poker slot, I feel like I lost 17 euros, if I didn't play with maximum bet. That's how my brain works. I see failure faster than victory, but I always go for victory. The road there, for me, is to be extremely careful and see every step and think outside the box and see what are the things that can go wrong and then counter them before they happen. Risk managment. That's my life, risk managment.

So I'm getting stuck with the possible points of failure, even though I know logically, that these little things won't simply matter at all. I know it. So why won't I just get over that? The worry wins the fact? It's not said and done, I'm battling it and I'll win. And I'll call her.

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Kid, yeah you get it right. Sick ****, isn't it?

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Why do you get only one shot? If you dont succeed you get shot? Or you just wont have a phone anymore? Or maybe she dies......?
Like I said, if she really WAS your friend, then she wont care. But the way you talkin, I beleive it was some girl in your group which you had a huge crush on buit never really talked to her that much. Cuz if you did, you would'nt be that shy....
Did you prepare your self when you coincidentaly ran into her in a bar and then she molested you. Then is that REALLY happenned, why do you need to get ready so much.

Your story and feelings dont add-up.

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Ok don't believe me then. I wont' start defending my position about those things, if you think I lied or have illusions, then it's too bad but I won't waste my time defending my own credibility over this issue.

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I can't believe this has gone on for so long.
She's either going to be
1. interested
2. curious
3. not interested.

There's only one way to find out. CALL
You only need to worry about those superficial things if the answer is #2.
If the supercitizen can't figure it out from a simple call, then you are unworthy of the title.

Skywise offers the best straight forward advice.

"I was thinking about you the other day and since it made me smile, I thought I'd give you a call"
Unless they remember you as scum, most women would feel complimented receiving a call like that.

Step up or forget it.

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Well I feel like defending it anyway . Ok. What you say you think happened is not true. We were a group of 4 people ok, consisting of her, her boyfriend (also my good friend), and another girl. We spent about 3-4 years in exclusive friendship , if there is such thing. I think it just wasn't some girl who never talked to me. Besides, as far as talking goes, she told me things that no one would tell another person unless they were close. And she knew I had a bad crush on her. Because she told me and I got embarrased. She liked making me embarrased because I was the kind of shameless person who would rarely go embarrased about anything so she liked to see me blush. Sadistic like that . But she also told me she fancies me from time to time. OK, I'm not going to explain why I really liked her and why we were good friends in real life and why I know there was some attraction going on for a long time, take it or don't. all I say is that from the age of 16 to the age of 19-20, we were tight bunch. The 4 of us. I never made any real moves, because then I woudl have betrayed my friend, which is a big no no. I'd rather go with the what ifs than betrayal and disloyalty.

And it was 2 years ago that I head the had broken up. Little after I accidentally saw them in a bar. Now. That created a problem in my head, I didn't watn to call her right away because that would equal the betrayal in my book, even though it wouldn't be kind of. So I figured I'd wait a while, maybe few months or so and THEN call. Let the dust settle. Make it my time now. But then, it's one of those things that builds up on and it's more and more difficult to do every time the time goes on. That's what happened and is happening. I haven't wasted 7 (or to be exact, 9) years, because the opportunity came 2 years ago. I have wasted 2 years. And it's been stupid, because 2 years ago I moved to Turku! To another city all together.. I do realize that all you are correct, I need to call, but I'm just worrying too much about stuff. I will call.. but I certianly haven't wasted 9 years, and I certainly haven't been illusioned of some pretty girl who once talked to me. I had no girl problems in school.

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Call her. Tonight.

Good luck.

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Kid, yeah you get it right. Sick ****, isn't it?


It's not that bad, as long as you know it.

 
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