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IMO they're charging too much for just about everything in the above list. They're obviously serious about profiting this round but I think they went from extreme to extreme too quickly.


Uck.. I have to agree. A regular controller is $40? A wireless one $50? Some of this high cost is going to come back to bite them, IMO.

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That sucks. AFAIK, the only reason games like Fable and Morrowind aren't on the PS2 is because it doesn't have an HD. Even the wireless controller isn't included.

So, given the current exchange rates, the core version will cost me about 400$ cdn (taxes included), and the fully-loaded one, about 550$ cdn (taxes included).

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This may force me to seriously reconsider even getting one, or at least getting one within a a few month's of the 360's launch.

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* Amped 3 (2K Games)
* Call of Duty 2 (Activision)
* Condemned (Sega)
* Dead Or Alive 4 (Tecmo)
* Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Bethesda)
* Final Fantasy XI (Microsoft)
* Full Auto (Sega)
* Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter (Ubisoft)
* Gun (Activision)
* Kameo: Elements of Power (Microsoft)
* Madden NFL 06 (EA)
* NBA 2K6 (2K Games)
* NHL 2K6 (2K Games)
* The Outfit (THQ)
* Perfect Dark LE (Microsoft)
* Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft)
* Quake 4 (Activision)
* Ridge Racer 6 (Namco)
* Saints Row (THQ)
* Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)
* Top Spin 2 (2K Games)


Microsoft owns the Final Fantasy franchise now? What happened to Squaresoft?

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$400. Interesting. Big box retailers are showing specials for bargain basement PCs with 2.9Ghz chips, DVD drives, 60 gig HDs, and integrated graphics for $300 INCLUDING monitors and printers. Means the PC is costing essentially $200. Id have to go look and see what you can get if youre paying $400 for the PC alone. not the ultimate gaming rig, but better than youd expect, i think. And thats now - $400 should buy you even a little more by December.

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$400. Interesting. Big box retailers are showing specials for bargain basement PCs with 2.9Ghz chips, DVD drives, 60 gig HDs, and integrated graphics for $300 INCLUDING monitors and printers. Means the PC is costing essentially $200. Id have to go look and see what you can get if youre paying $400 for the PC alone. not the ultimate gaming rig, but better than youd expect, i think. And thats now - $400 should buy you even a little more by December.


A 400$ PC will not now, nor in the near future, come close to giving you the graphics offered by the Xbox 360.

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A 400$ PC will not now, nor in the near future, come close to giving you the graphics offered by the Xbox 360.


No, but it may come a lot closer than a $300 PC. I didnt mean to imply that xbox is doomed, or whatever. There are clearly still many reasons to buy a console, rather than buy an incremental PC, or upgrade your PC. It all depends on the your situation wrt to PC use, the kind of games you prefer, etc. All of which has been true, and would have been true had the Xbox come out at $300. At $400 the Xbox vs PC comparison just gets more interesting, I think.

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Microsoft owns the Final Fantasy franchise now? What happened to Squaresoft?

They're just publishing it for Xbox 360.

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cheapest I know of with a discrete video card - Emachines, for $500, has a PC with a Radeon Express 200, 128 MB shared memory.

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$400. Interesting. Big box retailers are showing specials for bargain basement PCs with 2.9Ghz chips, DVD drives, 60 gig HDs, and integrated graphics for $300 INCLUDING monitors and printers. Means the PC is costing essentially $200. Id have to go look and see what you can get if youre paying $400 for the PC alone. not the ultimate gaming rig, but better than youd expect, i think. And thats now - $400 should buy you even a little more by December.


That's 400$ CDN, taxes included . They just love to tax us here Its still cheap, given that if you want a similar GPU on your PC, it would cost you about 1000$.

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Xbox Live demonstration

http://media.xbox.gamespy.com/artic...637/vids_1.html

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Japan's Next Generation

The Tokyo Game Show is fast approaching. The slingers are readying their guns. Who will win the next-gen shootout in Japan?
By Jonti Davies | Aug. 23, 2005

202 Xbox consoles were sold in Japan last week. That's preposterous. It's even more absurd when you consider that 103,000 DS systems jumped from the shelves of Japan's game stores during the same seven-day period. A relatively puny handheld is outselling Microsoft's behemoth by about 102,798 units a week. It's no surprise, however, as Microsoft's first console has been marginalized in Japan ever since its inauspicious launch. In Japan the format has been a huge, ugly failure.

In the next campaign of console wars, Microsoft is determined to show a prettier face and sell considerably more units of hardware. If MS stands any chance of convincing the Japanese en masse to buy into the 360, it will have to make the most of next month's Tokyo Game Show and the estimated three-month gap between the 360's December debut and PS3's arrival in spring of next year.

Capitalizing is a capital idea. Already Microsoft Japan has trumpeted its roster of home-grown developers: Mizuguchi-san, father of Rez and Sega Rally, is onboard; stalwart J-devcos Namco, Konami and KOEI are keen to do business on 360; and so too are the creators of Final Fantasy and Resident Evil.

As far as I can see, though, Xbox 360 has no decent chance -- by which I mean 1% chance -- of outperforming the PS3 in Japan's next-generation console market. I would be baffled if the 360 manages to outgun the Revolution, for that matter. The reason for this unbridled pessimism? Simple: Microsoft is not a Japanese company.

I speak to Japanese friends about my hometown in England, which is famous for its car manufacturing industry, and inevitably the vaguely comparable township of Toyota enters conversation. My friends can reel off the names of that company's presidents. They also know who formed NEC, Sony, Kawazaki, Nissan, and most other famous Japanese firms. But I don't know who was ever at the helm of Jaguar. The West has developed a taste for the exotic, readily buying into Sony and Nintendo products, but Japan is fiercely proud of its own.

What was the last Western games format to succeed here in Japan? Answer: it's a trick question. American and European console manufacturers -- and, while we're here, game developers -- have never won a single showdown with Japanese companies in Japan. And in the foreseeable future, nothing will change.

So, what of Sony and Nintendo? TGS will provide Sony with an opportunity to show off its next-gen plans in the same (very large and stiflingly humid) room as Microsoft. Ten paces at dawn, September 17th. Microsoft will shoot first, but Sony, wearing a Blu-Ray vest, will survive and reply with a fatal shot.

Before the PS2 was released in Japan, DVD had yet to be established as the ubiquitous media standard that it is today. Sony, with obvious vested interests, intends to push Blu-Ray in a similar manner, camouflaging Blu-Ray players as PS3 consoles. The inevitable rewards for Sony -- based on the fact that Japanese people love Japanese companies (and Sony is regarded as one of Japan's finest), as well as the powerful pull of Sony's PlayStation brand -- will be two-fold. Blu-Ray will outpace Toshiba's HD-DVD in the Japanese market, and the PS3 hardware and games will outsell both Xbox 360 and Revolution.

In sum, although the outcome is not likely to surprise anyone but the most ardent of MS devotees, Japan's next-generation game is planned out already: Microsoft and Nintendo will trail Sony. By some distance.

The only possible hindrances to Sony's continued domination of the home console market in Japan -- and these are somewhat remote -- would be a Japanese branding of the Xbox 360, marketing the console under a Japanese company's revered name, and/or a renaissance of Nintendo's inspired, emotive game design. I really hope both of these proposals are being considered around very large tables in the air-conditioned conference rooms of Microsoft and NCL. And if they're not being discussed, why not? Without any drastic changes from its competitors, Sony has the next-gen sorted.

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It seems the Blu-ray drives in the PS3 will cost Sony a whopping 100$ per console!

I bought the october issue of Xbox magazine, basically for hands-on preview of Oblivion and the demos.

Character-generation is pretty much like it was in Morrowind. You can customize your player's face using a slider system similar to Tiger Woods' Gameface utility.

About combat:

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Pulling the R trigger swings, holding it down does a power swing, and moving in a direction while holding R trigger does a devastating lunge attack (though be careful in big battles as it drains your slow-to-recharge fatigue level). Holding L trigger blocks.


About the wilderness:

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And though the wilderness areas are so luscious (with randomly generated foliage and ancient shrines nestled therein - you'd be hard-pressed to find any more beautiful in a game) that you'll want to linger, once you've visited each area you can opt to quickly travel to any of them by selecting it on your map (buying a horse is another option for rapid transit).


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(...) you must visit its nine sprawling cities. Each one is incredibly unique; every city's architecture, citizens, and weather all set it apart from the rest. Any building you see, you can enter - none are off limits. In the capital metropolis of Imperial City, for instance, Greco-Roman columns and bright white walls mark its buildings (...)


A quirky quest:

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Four guilds are in: Fighter's, Mage's, Thieve's, and Dark Brotherhood.

Some statistics:

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200+ total dungeons
200 approximate hours it takes to see and do everything
150+ total quests


Vampires:

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Trading spaces:

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About next-gen Madden. On the left, how EA said it will look like; on the right, how it really looks like

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I for one am shocked that the actual game looks nothing like the pre-rendered hype !

edit: haha, I am the first poster on the page for two straight pages now

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I for one am shocked that the actual game looks nothing like the pre-rendered hype !

edit: haha, I am the first poster on the page for two straight pages now


not everyone has the same posts per page as you methinks...

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Real men view threads 50 posts at a time.

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75 is where it's at.

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75 is where it's at.


AW DAMN!!!

WHEN DID THEY ALLOW THAT MANY?!?!?!

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I was also under the impression that it was 50 max, I dunno when they changed it.

What I want is an option to have all the posts on one page.

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AW DAMN!!!

WHEN DID THEY ALLOW THAT MANY?!?!?!


If I remember right, they allowed it a long time ago and then removed the option, but people who still had it could keep the view option so long as they didn't change their view settings.

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75 posts

They only allow it to cool people like me and ixnay

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To actually help you

IIRC theres some way you can save your "edit my options" page, change a line of HTML on it, and load that copy and then choose your new howerver many posts option (I guess you could use "500" for "all posts")

But someone else here would have to explain it

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http://news.com.com/Xbox+360+to+hit...ml?tag=nefd.top

Xbox 360 gets official launch dates:
North America: November 22nd, 2005
Europe: December 2nd, 2005
Japan: December 10th, 2005

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Meanwhile, Koch said that by the end of this year, there are expected to be between 25 and 40 games on the market for the Xbox 360, a number that impresses analysts.

"That's more than anyone's ever had before," said Sabine, "so it's a very, very robust lineup of titles."

Microsoft said in a press release that those titles will include "Final Fantasy XI" from Square Enix, "Need for Speed Most Wanted" from Electronic Arts, Capcom's "Resident Evil 5" and many others.

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Nintendo is expected to reveal a whole slew of Revolution details (including the unveiling of the controller!) in Iwata's keynote speech at the Tokyo Game Show tonight.

The speech is at 10pm EST

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Nintendo is expected to reveal a whole slew of Revolution details (including the unveiling of the controller!) in Iwata's keynote speech at the Tokyo Game Show tonight.

The speech is at 10pm EST


Oh yeah, Nintendo, leading the revolution in gaming with such outstanding titles as Zelda: XIV, Super Duper Mario Bros., and Zelda vs. Mario.

I mean, all you have from them is the same story over and over again, the only difference being improved graphics. Er, except the Revolution isn't about next-gen graphics, it's about being fun and colorful. Which leaves you with GameCube games on a repackaged product. Now admittedly this describes both 360 and PS3...actually the whole world of gaming, where all we get is rehashes of titles like Halo, NFL20XX, Grand Theft Auto and Generic Combat game. But at least each rehash features better graphics.

Actually, just ignore my troll.

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The controller has apparently been shown to the press, and some leaked reactions to it include "insane", "amazing", "weird", and "greater than the past two E3s combined".

Admittedly it's probably mostly hype but if there's one company that can come out with something new and innovative and make it work, it's nintendo.

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Prediction: Revolution will flop

Prediction: The controller is a gimmick

Prediction: Nintendo will ride that gimmick to the bank with a niche marketshare

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Revolution controller looks like futuristic television remote.
Glossy white design.
Looks Apple iPod inspired.
Controller is held in one hand. Attachments in the other.
Attachments connect to the bottom of the controller. Iwata shows analog stick attachment.
Thinking about packing Revolution with the main controller and attachment, Iwata says.
Controller acts like a mouse in real-space 3D. Pefect for FPS games!
Future attachments planned.

A console controller that can actually play FPS games? That's revolutionary in and of itself.

 
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