09-06-2005 00:46									#1
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I was picking up some of my girlfriends clothes today and I was wondering how it was women get to wear men's clothing but men are stuck in our collective clothing ruts

examples

I just love a women that sits around in a pair of boxers. Somehow a man lounging around in a pair of panties just don't seem right.

A woman can look good with basball cap or football jersey on but put a man in a pink leotard and it just don't work as good.

A woman can wear a pair of overalls and visions of the farmers daughter comes to mind but put a man in a dress (unless your in Scottland and its tartan) and your asking questions about sexual oreintation.

A girl in tennis shoes doesn't warrent much attention but parade a man around in stilettos and your bound to raise an eyebrow or two.

Of course these examples are a bit western and I've noticed that many countries seem to have less differences in dress.

Any more examples of clothing inequality that I missed?

	09-06-2005 00:47									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber A woman can wear a pair of overalls and visions of the farmers daughter comes to mind but put a man in a dress (unless your in Scottland and its tartan) and your asking questions about sexual oreintation.

Did you know that there are some cross-dressers who really are straight, and not gay at all?

	09-06-2005 00:50									#3
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Eddie Izzard

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Women are hot

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Sprayber's improvement in English grammar.

	09-06-2005 00:57									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Any more examples of clothing inequality that I missed?

Well you can certainly add in the whole makeup, jewelry and accessories thing.

	09-06-2005 01:00									#7
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Men can get away with wearing drab grey as formal wear or as a suit. Even if every other man is wearing the same clothing and its the same colour no-one will care.

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Drab grey

	09-06-2005 01:11									#9
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I got thinking about this sort of issues at a pre-party last friday. Every guy there wore jeans and a t-shirt or similar. Casual clothes, basically. The girls wore a variety of nice trousers and skirts, along with special blouses, etc. Moderately dressed up, IOW.

At least in my circles, this is typical. Girls dress to the occasion, guys just turn up in whatever feels comfy.

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Women

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Would you rather spend all your money on that crap, or on booze, comics and cars?

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Clothes on women

	09-06-2005 01:24									#13
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Agathon; Comics? What kind of eliminative materialist are you? You do realise it means burning money and keeping the ashes?

	09-06-2005 01:25									#14
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In a previous incarnation I sold menswear. The people at our company told me (in 1991) that in NZ about 8% of money spent on clothes is spent on childrens' clothing. About another 3% is spent on menswear. The rest is spent on women's clothing.

So that means that either women vastly outspend men on clothing, or there are a vast number of closet transvestites in New Zealand.

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In a country where sheep outnumber humans 14 : 1, that's actually rather worrying.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon In a previous incarnation I sold menswear.

You should have kept that factoid secret

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If you'd seen the average New Zealand male's clothing, you'd understand. Things have probably changed now – younger New Zealand men have taken up preening and label bashing.

In the early 90s if you had run a store selling black jeans, swanndris, heavy undyed wool socks, black T-Shirts sporting obscene slogans, and brushed cotton work shirts, you'd have done a roaring trade.

Perhaps "pub shirts" should be added to that.

A "pub shirt" is a tidier looking shirt (one only) that hangs in a man's closet (rather than on the floor) and is donned over the gear described above to enable entry into nightclubs. Said item is rarely washed and is carefully put back on its hanger after a night of carousing.

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quote: Originally posted by Saras You should have kept that factoid secret

I only did it for 9 months to save money to go to the UK. I've had threads on my "experiences". The transexuals were always the worst.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Would you rather spend all your money on that crap, or on booze, comics and cars?

Me? I'm a fanatical jeans-wearer. I wore jeans to my grandfather's funeral.

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Thorstein Veblen wrote that women's clothing is a primary means of showing off one's affluence, so they have to shed all hints of being used for any practical purpose other than to show off. They have to be extravagant and uncomfortable and hideous to anyone having common sense. Men's clothes do not follow this rule so closely, so they tend to be more practical and tasteful.

So I speculate that a man's eye, trained to appreciate such simple fashion, is hence more delighted to see a woman in men's clothes, rather than in woman's clothes.

	09-06-2005 03:36									#21
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I don't know why, but a G-string looks better on a woman than on a man.

quote: Originally posted by Saras Clothes on women

Depends - it can be quite fun to remove clothes on a woman

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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin Men can get away with wearing drab grey as formal wear or as a suit. Even if every other man is wearing the same clothing and its the same colour no-one will care.

You know if you think about it, before the French Revolution men dressed as gaudily as women. The revolutionaries in France repudiated powdered wigs, brightly colored vestments, ornate gold trimming and elaborate embroidery in men's clothing. The strange thing is that the style caught on even amongst their enemies and has persisted even until today.

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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat I don't know why, but a G-string looks better on a woman than on a man.

Ahh, but whatever happened to the codpiece?

	09-06-2005 03:53									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Ahh, but whatever happened to the codpiece?

I'm not familiar with such a thingie - do you have a pic ? Maybe a G-string for comparison

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You could always start a movement for equality, Sprayber.

	09-06-2005 04:07									#27
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Considering that most of the complaints about clothes I hear are from women (and half the rest are me complaining about shops not carrying 30/36 jeans), I don't think men are the losing side on this "inequality".

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara You could always start a movement for equality, Sprayber.

I don't have the hips for a sexy black party dress che

	09-06-2005 05:19									#29
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I think all women are mentally ill with the god damn clothes thing.

	09-06-2005 05:54									#30
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Actually, it's worse.

Womens clothes are shabbier than mens clothes, are nowhere near as durable, and comparable cuts of clothing cost a mimimum of 20% more for the womens variety than the mens.

So sez my wife, who does the clothes shopping around here.