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Jul 2002
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Classic example of Republican "Support the Troops" claptrap.
http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/...fm?blog_id=1006
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Texas governor suggests gay veterans should leave state
Gay groups demand Perry apologize
By STEVE KOVAL | Jun 8, 10:55 AM
Texas Gov. Rick Perry suggested that gay veterans unhappy with the proposed anti-gay constitutional amendment should move elsewhere.
"I'm going to say Texas has made a decision on marriage and if there's a state with more lenient views than Texas, then maybe that's where they should live," the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported Perry said Sunday.
Perry's comments were in response to a question during a news conference about what he would tell gay war veterans returning from Iraq.
Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a group for gays in the military, today joined calls by the Lesbian & Gay Rights Lobby of Texas for Perry to apologize.
"More than 66,000 lesbian and gay veterans make their home in Texas," said Sharra E. Greer, SLDN’s director of law and policy. "Their service has defended the freedom of every Texan, including Governor Perry. The governor’s remarks dishonor their service and he should immediately apologize. We should be thanking these brave men and women, not asking them to leave."
Col. Paul W. Dodd, a retired Army Chaplain and SLDN honorary board member who now lives in Texas, said in a statement, "Gays and lesbians have defended our country since the American Revolution."
"Governor Perry’s remarks were outrageous and offensive and do not reflect the views of fair-minded Texans who value the service of our men and women in uniform. It is past time that those who fight for freedom abroad be afforded those same liberties here at home," Dodd said. |
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"I'm going to say Texas has made a decision on marriage and if there's a state with more lenient views than Texas, then maybe that's where they should live," the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported Perry said Sunday. |
How many governors before this have pleaded with tax paying citizens to leave their state?
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Aug 2001
time: 00:34
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I'm sure Ben would take a crack at defending it.
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Nov 2000
time: 23:34
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Sure. Whether you agree with him or not, he's made his views, and presumably the views of a majority of Texans (at least with regard to gay marriage) clear. Given that we're talking about Texas, that ain't ever likely to change, so y'all can waste your time in futility, or go elsewhere where what you perceive to be fundamental rights aren't treated with the same disdain.
In that sense, his analysis of the options is correct. |
First of all, even going back all the way to our Founding fathers, they were concerned about the tyranny of the majority. Tyranny of the majority happens when the majority rules with callous disregard for the rights of a minority.
Secondly, this stupid Texas governor has shown complete, utter disrespect to US veterans -- the same utter, complete disrespect that conservatives have whined about when it came from extreme lefties.
Now it looks like it's turned around and it's either disgusting or laughable that some conservatives can favor bigotry over respect for US veterans.
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:34
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Originally posted by MrFun
First of all, even going back all the way to our Founding fathers, they were concerned about the tyranny of the majority. Tyranny of the majority happens when the majority rules with callous disregard for the rights of a minority.
Secondly, this stupid Texas governor has shown complete, utter disrespect to US veterans -- the same utter, complete disrespect that conservatives have whined about when it came from extreme lefties.
Now it looks like it's turned around and it's either disgusting or laughable that some conservatives can favor bigotry over respect for US veterans. |
Gay veterans, funsies. Gay veterans. In these people's views, you're barely human - you're all evil, God-mocking sodomites. And the Founding fathers weren't over concerned with tyranny of the majority, since they reserved political power to white males. If you think you're ever going to get the Bahble Belt to go for gay marriage, civil unions, or any other form of "gay rights" you're seriously deluded, and they control enough states and enough representation in each house of Congress to kill any attempt to amend the Federal constitution.
I'm not saying it's right or justifiable, I'm saying how it is, and it ain't gonna change. If you want a hobby to beat your head against a brick wall, have at it. I'd think it would be more productive to concentrate on other states where it isn't such BS. Hell, even California just voted down gay marriage, and you think Texas is ever gonna ****in' change? 
Ask yourself this: How many Texans do you think cheered Perry and support his position?
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MrFun
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Nov 2000
time: 23:34
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Gay veterans, funsies. Gay veterans. In these people's views, you're barely human - you're all evil, God-mocking sodomites. And the Founding fathers weren't over concerned with tyranny of the majority, since they reserved political power to white males. If you think you're ever going to get the Bahble Belt to go for gay marriage, civil unions, or any other form of "gay rights" you're seriously deluded, and they control enough states and enough representation in each house of Congress to kill any attempt to amend the Federal constitution.
I'm not saying it's right or justifiable, I'm saying how it is, and it ain't gonna change. If you want a hobby to beat your head against a brick wall, have at it. I'd think it would be more productive to concentrate on other states where it isn't such BS. Hell, even California just voted down gay marriage, and you think Texas is ever gonna ****in' change?
Ask yourself this: How many Texans do you think cheered Perry and support his position? |
The Founding fathers did have concern about tyranny of the majority though -- read some of the documents/papers written by Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and others.
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