17-06-2005 10:05									#31
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GASP -- you watch Oprah??

	17-06-2005 10:06									#32
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Which straight man would dump Nicole Kidman? I rest my case.

	17-06-2005 10:07									#33
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun GASP -- you watch Oprah??

You'd have to be living in a cave not to have seen that clip on TV or the internet by now.

Oops, sorry Imran, I retract that phrasing.

	17-06-2005 10:07									#34
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I guess I was in a cave when they showed that clip.




What did Cruise do on the show?

	17-06-2005 10:10									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Which straight man would dump Nicole Kidman? I rest my case.

Actually, she ditched him because her Roman Catholic self was fed up with the Scientology bullshit.

What gay man would be a Scientologist?

	17-06-2005 10:11									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui What in the world gave you that impression?

Actually, that's a good question. I don't know why I came to that conclusion. Maybe because she played a bookworm a couple of times. Rest assured, Boris, I used to think she's intelligent, but I still think she's got nice boobs. Have you guys seen The Gift?

	17-06-2005 10:12									#37
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What did Cruise do on the Oprah show?

	17-06-2005 10:15									#38
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He grabbed Oprah's boobs and he said: "you're a sexy *****, you know that, don't you?"

@ Boris watching Oprah

	17-06-2005 10:16									#39
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You're joking right, Nostro??

	17-06-2005 10:17									#40
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http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/go...prah-104673.php

And no, I don't watch Oprah, you twits. I watch Opera.

Opera, Oprah.

Oprah, Opera.

	17-06-2005 10:19									#41
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Actual video: http://gorillamask.net/cruiseoprah.shtml

	17-06-2005 10:19									#42
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Thanks, Boris.



Why did Cruise behave so weird like that?

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Actually, she ditched him because her Roman Catholic self was fed up with the Scientology bullshit.

You got it backwards. He left her. She didn't want to end the marriage. After all, Cruise had a girlfriend seemingly days afterwards (Penelope Cruz) and Kidman wasn't dating anyone for a long time.

And besides, if she was so Roman Catholic, wouldn't divorce be the last thing on her mind?

	17-06-2005 10:22									#44
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Ok, now that I saw the clip . . . . . . .





was Cruise on some kind of drug?

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If she was so Roman Catholic, she wouldn't have married a Scientologist in the first place. But the point was she was more Roman Catholic than Scientologist, particularly when it came to the raising of the adopted kids.

Kidman feigned shock at the divorce--helped get public sympathy. But the rumors were that she was interested in a split before he was (and that her desire for it affected his work on Vanilla Sky at the time). There are, of course, the rumors of her affair with Russell Crowe.

	17-06-2005 10:33									#46
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We'll never know for sure. But I bet he's happy because he's finally found a woman who's fun in bed. Nicole Kidman? I'm sceptical. Penelope Cruz? She's beautiful, but God does she sound boring. And, yes, he made a fool of himself.

	17-06-2005 10:34									#47
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Anyways...


Gary Oldman was a great choice as Gordon. When I first saw him onscreen, I was surprised they had gotten him, but I think he does an excellent job.

Michael Cain as Alfred was also an inspired choice. And Liam Nielsen was also very good. In all, the acting was either decent (Holmes) or right on the money.

I would love to see thebad guys already used being featured in future Batman movies of this type, but specially two fgace, because I agree that what was done to Two face in Batman Forever was a huge travesty, even if Jim Carrey was a fine Joker. The less said about Ahnold's Freeze, the better.

	17-06-2005 10:36									#48
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Anyways... Gary Oldman was a great choice as Gordon. When I first saw him onscreen, I was surprised they had gotten him, but I think he does an excellent job. Michael Cain as Alfred was also an inspired choice. And Liam Nielsen was also very good. In all, the acting was either decent (Holmes) or right on the money. I would love to see thebad guys already used being featured in future Batman movies of this type, but specially two fgace, because I agree that what was done to Two face in Batman Forever was a huge travesty, even if Jim Carrey was a fine Joker. The less said about Ahnold's Freeze, the better.

Carrey was the riddler. It seems the next villain will be the Joker.

	17-06-2005 10:38									#49
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Woops...I mean Riddler.

But this ia a prequel, so the reason they show the Joker was because he is the main villain in the First Batman.

In the age of CGI, Clayface would be a nice villian to use, or the crock.

	17-06-2005 10:41									#50
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I don't know I never read a comic in my life. The Joker was a late addition?

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No, he was there relatively early, hence becoming the signature badguy (thought he was meant as a single edition badguy).

That said, Batman has been around since the 40's, so there is much to work with. If the producers want to continue not using bad guys used before, Clayface and the Croc are both good.

I never in my life have read Batman Comics. MOst of my Batman knowlegde comes from the excellent 90's cartoon.

	17-06-2005 10:45									#52
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I think it'd be lame to reuse supervillians though... even if they messed it up.

The only ones that may be able to be resurrected are those that were the minor supervillian in a previous movie (like Poison Ivy or The Riddler).

	17-06-2005 10:46									#53
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But AFAIK there's no connection between the previous Batman movies and this one--it's a totally fresh start.

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I think that's pretty lame as well. Apparently they are talking 'sequal' already. Oy... because sequalitius won't go the same way as the original movies?

	17-06-2005 10:49									#55
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Could that be why it's called Batman BEGINS?

	17-06-2005 10:50									#56
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Irc, both Burton and Nolan were inspired by the Frank Miller comics.

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Apparently for the 'sequal', the Joker and Two-Face are supposedly the villians.

And Mark Hamill is in talks to become the Joker (he does the voice for the cartoon).

	17-06-2005 10:57									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I think it'd be lame to reuse supervillians though... even if they messed it up. The only ones that may be able to be resurrected are those that were the minor supervillian in a previous movie (like Poison Ivy or The Riddler).

The Riddler was the MAIN bad guy of the third film, not minor. It was Two Face that was minor.

Movies three and four were god awful, and people better damn well do good with those characters.

The first two were OK, but Burton (and whomever directed #2) simply did not have the right "darkness" for Batman. Which is why the cartoon was such a better version of the character.

	17-06-2005 10:59									#59
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quote: The Riddler was the MAIN bad guy of the third film, not minor. It was Two Face that was minor.

Ah, you're right! I guess I mixed it up in my mind because it seemed when Riddler and Two-Face got together, Two-Face was in charge. Ok, Two-Face can be used again. Sad that the Riddler is forever ruined.

quote: Burton (and whomever directed #2)

Burton directed both "Batman" and "Batman Returns". The Joker and the Penguin were done well in those movies as well. Then the villian quality dropped off with only Carrey's Riddler being anywhere near decent.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: The Riddler was the MAIN bad guy of the third film, not minor. It was Two Face that was minor. Ah, you're right! I guess I mixed it up in my mind because it seemed when Riddler and Two-Face got together, Two-Face was in charge. Ok, Two-Face can be used again. Sad that the Riddler is forever ruined.

That and the movie was about how the Riddler came into being -- not how Two-Face came into being.