20-06-2005 22:24									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I am always surprised about how much calories some things are.. a bag of chips is generally ~800 calories a small thing of ice cream (like Ben and Jerries) is ~1k... those things are both very easy to eat all of, and are a lot of calories (And don't fill you up) JM

Don't eat chips or ice cream. Don't really eat any junk food at all (I just don't buy that when I go to store)

Yesterday I ate:

1/2 bag of cheese&spinach tortellini (6.5 oz dry weight) with 1/4 jar marinara sauce (~125 ml)

1 can manhattan style clam chowder

3 glasses iced tea

2 peaches

	20-06-2005 22:24									#32
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Today I ate: nothing, so far.

	20-06-2005 22:27									#33
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Will probably have ~1.5lbs steak and 1-2 baked potatoes later (margarine only on baked potato).

	20-06-2005 22:28									#34
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Might have beer today too. Not sure yet. If I have enough I might not end up cooking he steak for safety's sake.

	20-06-2005 22:31									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller The Harris-Benedict equation for BMR (technically RMR): * For men: (13.75 x w) + (5.0 x h) - (6.76 x a) + 66 * For women: (9.56 x w) + (1.85 x h) - (4.68 x a) + 655 The Mufflin equation for RMR: * For men: (10 x w) + (6.25 x h) - (5 x a) + 5 * For women: (10 x w) + (6.25 x h) - (5 x a) - 161 w=weight in kg h=height in cm a=age

Those gives me rates of 1813 and 1765, respectively. Is that supposed to be kcal/day?

	21-06-2005 00:40									#36
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse 1/2 bag of cheese&spinach tortellini (6.5 oz dry weight) with 1/4 jar marinara sauce (~125 ml)

that is similar to my usual meal

either that, or sandwiches, or I eat out

JM

	21-06-2005 00:43									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Those gives me rates of 1813 and 1765, respectively. Is that supposed to be kcal/day?

no, that is used to calculate your kcal/day

1.2 Bed Rest
1.3 Sedentary
1.4 Active
1.5 Very Active

I think is how you get your cal per day (multiplay those numbers by one of your numbers (Which one depending on your activity and the like))

(of course... you do different things during the day)

I would just use the calculator they provide, to give a rough estimate

JM

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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Those gives me rates of 1813 and 1765, respectively. Is that supposed to be kcal/day?

basically, I think those are how much you burn just by sleeping...

JM

	21-06-2005 00:50									#39
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Yeah, I assumed as much from the "basal" part.

I suppose my activity level is sedentary, so it would land me on ~2350, which I'd think is less than I normally eat per day.

	21-06-2005 01:27									#40
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I've been constantly hungry for the past couple days, and I don't know why.


Maybe I haven't had enough fresh veggies.

	21-06-2005 01:30									#41
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I have started caring about my calorie intake last summer, after an especially bad week (well, it tasted excellent, but was extremely exagerated).

I lost 7kg in 6 weeks once I started being cautious. My weight is now stabilized at around 70-72kg for 1,76m (I have very little muscle mass, so I still look a tad chubby).

I avoid sugary drinks, save for juices, which I consider as deserts (the calorie amount of a glass of juice is equivalent to a small desert). I avoid fat, except if I consider it as a complement to an otherwise frugal meal (depending on my hunger, I might or might not ask for sauce in my kebab). I try to eat no more than 150-200g of meat per meal. I'm cautious about cookies, which I eat only when I feel bad, or when I haven't intaken any calorie that day.

	21-06-2005 01:31									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller that is similar to my usual meal either that, or sandwiches, or I eat out JM

And given the nutritional information available on the packages I consumed 1550 calories yesterday. Slightly lower than average for me.

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BTW, back when I was interested in the question, I was positively surprised by the Weight Watcher's method. The system is easily understandable, and it matches what I could read or hear on dietetics fairly well .

I think the Weight Watcher's method (not to be confused with WW commercial products) can seriously help anybody who's serious about getting a healthy diet.

	21-06-2005 01:34									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I lost 7kg in 6 weeks once I started being cautious.

Whoah. My doctor complained when I lost 2kg in 2 weeks this winter.

	21-06-2005 01:36									#45
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1/2 package tortellini: 750 calories
1 can manhattan style clam chowder: 240 calories
1/4 jar marinara sauce: 140 calories
2 peaches: 80 calories
3 glasses iced tea: 300 calories

1510

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The difference is that I was well on my way of becoming obese (I had eaten way too much for one weak, and it topped off years of fairly bad habits). My doctor actually congratulated me for returning in the normal weight range.

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Returning to normal weight range? That sounds like a nice idea...

	21-06-2005 01:47									#48
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Cereals, kefir, and juice for breakfast: ~500kcal
Swedish hash for lunch: 792 kcal
Minimeal: 120 kcal
Banana: ? kcal
1 glass of iced tea: 100 kcal
4 caviar sandwiches: ~400 kcal

That's about 2000 kcal. Not very hungry today.

	21-06-2005 04:40									#49
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On fat- the human body needs fat to run efficiently, so it is a mistake to take fat out of the diet.

That said, you can use vegetable fats like avocados, nuts, or olive oil to get the fat you need. Obviously animal fats should be limited.

I am hoping to lose an extra 7 kg. in the next 6 weeks as well. Then I will be 7kg overweight, as opposed to 20 kg overweight.

	21-06-2005 04:40									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist Whoah. My doctor complained when I lost 2kg in 2 weeks this winter.

You sound underweight as is.

	21-06-2005 06:22									#51
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I'm about to eat a porterhouse steak and a half.

Oh, and I'm underweight.

	21-06-2005 06:41									#52
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my general day would be something like

1 package tortellini: ~1500 calories
1/2 jar marinara sauce: ~280 calories
a glass or two of juice ~200 calories

which puts me at ~2k for eating at home

usually

eating out at fast food is often like

Bean Burrito
7.0 oz=198 g
2 Servings: 740.0 calories

but then I eat again...

Jon Miller

	21-06-2005 06:43									#53
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today I had 2 bean burrito's

some juice

and a pinto's and cheese

and some chips..

and I plan on eating some veggeterrian sloppy joes tonight

will be a decent day.. hopefully under 2.5k, since I didn't exercise

Jon Miller

	21-06-2005 06:44									#54
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( I am pretty sure that my tortellini is less then 1.5k per package, and that my sauce is more then 560 per can... but I Think it still comes out to be a bit under 2k for tortellini with sauce)

JM

	21-06-2005 06:48									#55
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Your diet seems really low on fiber, and perhaps a bit incomplete of protein (pasta is not complete protein).

Might not be excess calories, but its not a very rounded diet.

	21-06-2005 06:50									#56
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Tortellini is usually filled with cheese, meat or spinach

Beans have protein also.

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Today: approximately 0.5 kg beef
2 baked potatoes with margarine
2 glasses iced tea
1 peach

~ 2100 calories today

~1100 calories from fat

	21-06-2005 07:03									#58
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Your diet seems really low on fiber, and perhaps a bit incomplete of protein (pasta is not complete protein). Might not be excess calories, but its not a very rounded diet.

my diet is low on fiber

but I eat a decent ammount of soy products

which are a complete protein...

jM

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse ~ 2100 calories today ~1100 calories from fat

Yikes, more than 50% from fat.

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That's what you get when your one meal of the day consists of a huge slab of beef.

Normal days are closer to 25-30%