25-06-2005 22:01									#1
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I want to travel by dirigable. Airplanes are just so passe.

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	25-06-2005 22:05									#2
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Last I heard, the Zepplin company was up and running a couple of sight-seeing dirigibles in southern Germany.

	25-06-2005 22:07									#3
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Here's a link to the Zepplin website.

	25-06-2005 22:07									#4
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Yeah, but it's not happening fast enough. By the time there's a Zepplin to Cebu I'll be 200 years old.

	25-06-2005 22:09									#5
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Well, there's not really the fastest vehicles around.

	25-06-2005 22:12									#6
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Whatever happened to liesure time anyway? Getting there is half the fun? The world is in a terrible hurry but it's still just floating around that same happy star in it's always been.

	25-06-2005 22:20									#7
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Why not take a tramp steamer?

My understanding is you can get pretty good rates taking a cargo ship, and the food is generally quite good. It just takes a while and you need sea legs.

	25-06-2005 22:21									#8
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Why a dirigible when you can just connect a bunch of helium-filled weather balloons to your deckchair?

	25-06-2005 22:27									#9
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che, I've thought of it, but Dolores isn't keen on the idea. Her brother is a seaman so maybe if it was his ship...he docks in Portland Oregon sometimes too...

yeah, yeah...

"Why a dirigible when you can just connect a bunch of helium-filled weather balloons to your deckchair?"

Or travel like space aliens, use a weather balloon.

	25-06-2005 23:30									#10
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I'm not sure about aliens, but DARPA is funding an airship called WALRUS which is targeted to carry 1,000 tons of equipment anywhere in the world within days.

	25-06-2005 23:55									#11
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That must be a big airship!

You could always walk there

	25-06-2005 23:58									#12
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1,000 tons. I wonder how lift capability compares with modern aircraft. It seems that if you can move 1,000 tons around then you could carry plenty of passengers. One ton would be 10 200 lb passengers without bags. So, figure 1000 lbs of bags and you have 20 people taking 3 tons. 333 people in 1000 tons?

	26-06-2005 00:05									#13
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3 tons a person? Only in America

	26-06-2005 00:06									#14
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3 tons for 20 persons.

	26-06-2005 00:12									#15
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Modern aircraft can lift about 75 metric tons at most.

	26-06-2005 01:23									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker 3 tons for 20 persons.

Look at the last part of Lancer's comment...sometimes I am sure humour is wasted on some people...

	26-06-2005 05:53									#18
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If you insist.

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	26-06-2005 07:11									#20
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Worst. pun. ever.

	26-06-2005 11:24									#21
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I love puns, and I didn't even realize there was one. Explain?

	26-06-2005 12:33									#22
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Haven't you heard the Hindenburg radio broadcast?

	26-06-2005 12:56									#23
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Oh, that is absolutely terrible. GROAN

	26-06-2005 19:33									#24
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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc Oh, that is absolutely terrible. GROAN

	26-06-2005 20:59									#25
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@ shawnmmcc

	26-06-2005 23:56									#26
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Dirigibles are incredibly safe.

Oooh, the Hindenberg. See that flames? Well, hydrogen has an invisible flame. What you see burning there is the sealing material for the fabric. It was highly flamible and is no longer used. IIRC, the only person who died from burns was a sailor who had the Hindenberg crash on him. The deaths were from people jumping to their doom. Those who rode the craft down (and the dog in cargo), escaped because lighter-than-air hydrogen burns up, that is, it's over your head. An hydrogen has been replaced by non-flamable helium.

The US lost two dirigible during that era. Both were torn up in the high winds of storms. But we now have radar, weather satillites. That's not going to happen again.

When blimbs have crashed, they lose gas slowly and settle gently to the ground. Not true with airplanes.

Yea, dirigibles.

	27-06-2005 00:14									#27
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They're also making these dirigibles slightly heavier-than-air. This should help with handling.

	27-06-2005 01:21									#28
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In a Civil Engineering class I designed a bridge held up by helium. 100 meters long, designed to carry up to a few heavy trucks at one time. Worked out to needing a 200 meter diameter balloon.

	27-06-2005 01:54									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler IIRC, the only person who died from burns was a sailor who had the Hindenberg crash on him. The deaths were from people jumping to their doom.

I'm pretty sure that most of the people who died in the crash died from burns. After all, many (including Capt. Lehman) died later in the hospital. On top of that, many never made it out of the ship--they got trapped in the burning wreckage.

	27-06-2005 02:04									#30
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Nobody crushed by the huge manatee?