01-07-2005 06:52									#1
	The Times exposes the truth about Bush. Again! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Yes, the world-renowned paper that brought to light the infamous Downing Street Memos has exposed George W. Bush yet again! I don't know how they do it, but they are certainly providing a great service to the world. Here's just a teaser of the new revelations...

quote: In person Mr Bush is so far removed from the caricature of the dim, war-mongering Texas cowboy of global popular repute that it shakes onefs faith in the reliability of the modern media.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1674668,00.html

OMG!!! Bush is teh evil!!! This definitely would shake my faith in the reliability of the modern media if I had any left.

	01-07-2005 08:29									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Yes, the world-renowned paper that brought to light the infamous Downing Street Memos has exposed George W. Bush yet again! I don't know how they do it, but they are certainly providing a great service to the world. Here's just a teaser of the new revelations... quote: In person Mr Bush is so far removed from the caricature of the dim, war-mongering Texas cowboy of global popular repute that it shakes onefs faith in the reliability of the modern media. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1674668,00.html OMG!!! Bush is teh evil!!! This definitely would shake my faith in the reliability of the modern media if I had any left.

Gee, this from a newspaper owned by the same guy who owns Fox News.

I'm gonna be surprised in 5...4...3...2...1...

Oops, no I'm not.

	01-07-2005 08:48									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten OMG!!! Bush is teh evil!!!

Oh jeez...

	01-07-2005 09:07									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly Gee, this from a newspaper owned by the same guy who owns Fox News. I'm gonna be surprised in 5...4...3...2...1... Oops, no I'm not.

So are they anti-Bush hacks (Downing Street Memos) or pro-Bush hacks (this article)? I can't get it straight with all these opposing views from the hopelessly biased...

	01-07-2005 09:23									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I can't get it straight with all these opposing views from the hopelessly biased...

Quoted for the unintended irony.

	01-07-2005 09:28									#7
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Drake isn't the one pwned...

	01-07-2005 09:56									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten So are they anti-Bush hacks (Downing Street Memos) or pro-Bush hacks (this article)? I can't get it straight with all these opposing views from the hopelessly biased...

They're pro-Bush businessmen. This story sells Bush. But the Downing St. memo sells newspapers, which is even more important.

Was that really so hard to puzzle out on your own?

	01-07-2005 10:43									#9
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Bush has certainly got us all fooled.

	01-07-2005 11:30									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly They're pro-Bush businessmen. This story sells Bush. But the Downing St. memo sells newspapers, which is even more important. Was that really so hard to puzzle out on your own?

I find it strange that you immediately accused The Times of being biased over something as innocuous as a claim that Bush might not be the idiot he's often portrayed as. Seems to say a lot about you and your thought processes...

	01-07-2005 11:51									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I find it strange that you immediately accused The Times of being biased over something as innocuous as a claim that Bush might not be the idiot he's often portrayed as. Seems to say a lot about you and your thought processes...

Or, it says a lot about me and my reading habits, since I read the Times (and several other world newspapers) on line every day, and notice their biases.

Anything else confusing you?

	01-07-2005 11:55									#12
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I don't think I ever claimed to be confused. No potential for confusion exists in sizing you up.

	01-07-2005 12:04									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I don't think I ever claimed to be confused. No potential for confusion exists in sizing you up.

That's your coup de grace? Christ, you really are from Nebraska, aren't you...

	01-07-2005 12:07									#14
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What does that even mean?

	01-07-2005 15:25									#15
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for the article...

quote: THERE has probably never been a president, there may not have been a human being, who observes punctuality with the sort of fanaticism that President George W. Bush brings to every aspect of his life.

that's what i call journalism!!

	01-07-2005 15:28									#16
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this is from the edited transcript....

quote: THE TIMES: Mr President, one country there’s a little concern about, as you know, in Britain, particularly, is Zimbabwe. PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah. THE TIMES: Which is headed by a brutal tyrant. PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes, he is. I think I’ve called him that. He’s ruined a wonderful country, a country that used to not only feed Africa — in other words, an exporter of food — and now an importer of food, because of (his) decisions.

	01-07-2005 15:32									#17
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quote: When we win in Afghanistan and Iraq, it’s a beginning of the end. Talking about the war on terror. If we don’t win here, it’s the beginning of the beginning.

let's hope the begining doesnt begin....

	01-07-2005 18:03									#18
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A (generally reliable) conservative paper has an interview article that's favorable to Shrub. TZOMGGFFFF!!!

	01-07-2005 18:23									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo A (generally reliable) conservative paper has an interview article that's favorable to Shrub. TZOMGGFFFF!!!

Shhhh. You'll confuse Drake again...

	01-07-2005 18:27									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten What does that even mean?

If you were from anywhere other than Nebraska, you'd probably know.

	01-07-2005 19:07									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I find it strange that you immediately accused The Times of being biased over something as innocuous as a claim that Bush might not be the idiot he's often portrayed as. Seems to say a lot about you and your thought processes...

This is an interview by Gerard Baker, who is a conservative Times opinion columnist. You'd expect him to give Bush an unfavorable interview?

	01-07-2005 20:55									#22
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Bush is quite lovable, in a rogueish han solo kinda way? sometimes.
And then he is so obviously using his power for his own gains, and the lover affair is over

And yes the Times is one of britains right wing papers, but in the same way the bbc is seen as left wing, they also report things in a fairly objective manner most of the time.

	01-07-2005 21:43									#23
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Next thing you know, Drake will pull up an article by a liberal that shockingly paints Hilary Clinton in a favorable light!


Bring on the shocking revelations, Drakey!

	01-07-2005 21:47									#24
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Drake bested once again.

How novel...well, not really.

	01-07-2005 21:52									#25
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What is surprising in this whole affair is that the Times carried the downing street memo at all. Whether this says something about less biased british journalism, or about the veracity of the memo itself, is up to the audience.

	01-07-2005 22:14									#26
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Bush is quite lovable, in a rogueish han solo kinda way? sometimes.

I find Bush to have a dorkish, goofy quality about him. Not very articulate either. He doesn't inspire me as a leader. I wouldn't follow him into battle or even vote for him, that is for sure.

He is like Canada's idiot Chretien, another uninspiring leader.

	01-07-2005 23:01									#27
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor Bush is quite lovable, in a rogueish han solo kinda way? sometimes. And then he is so obviously using his power for his own gains, and the lover affair is over And yes the Times is one of britains right wing papers, but in the same way the bbc is seen as left wing, they also report things in a fairly objective manner most of the time.

Well, quite. The Times is not right wing imo.

As a regular reader I can say it is very much against Bush and his foray of Iraq.

	01-07-2005 23:12									#28
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quote: THERE has probably never been a president, there may not have been a human being, who observes punctuality with the sort of fanaticism that President George W. Bush brings to every aspect of his life.

Bah. This fanatic can't even make the trains run on time.

	01-07-2005 23:13									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I find it strange that you immediately accused The Times of being biased over something as innocuous as a claim that Bush might not be the idiot he's often portrayed as.

Blaiming the media for something that pundits do? If I say Bush is an idiot, that does not mean the NYT says that Bush is an idiot. You need to learn to distinguish between editorials and news, Drake.

	02-07-2005 00:44									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Admiral What is surprising in this whole affair is that the Times carried the downing street memo at all. Whether this says something about less biased british journalism, or about the veracity of the memo itself, is up to the audience.

The Times stance is critical of the Iraqi situation. That is why.