01-07-2005 09:45									#1
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I figure here would be one of the best places to post a problem...

I recently purchased a 160 gig internal hard drive and a USB enclosure kit. I formatted the hard drive on a friend's desktop computer, so I'm pretty sure it works. However, when I place it into the enclosure kit and plug the ribbon and power source in and connect it to my laptop, I get in "installation error." The computer recognizes that a USB has been plugged in, but I guess doesn't know what it is. I've installed all the things from the installation CDs and such, so I would assume that shouldn't be a problem. I also have the hard drive on a slave setting as I plan to use it as a secondary hard drive. So...anyone know what's going on?

Now, let the "MAO-SIGHTING!!!" comments commence...but can anyone help?

	01-07-2005 09:47									#2
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Who is Mao?

	01-07-2005 09:48									#3
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Mao siting!

	01-07-2005 09:51									#4
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OzzyKP

	01-07-2005 10:12									#6
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that's great...so...no computer people around?

	01-07-2005 10:19									#7
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First Faded Glory returns from the dead, now Mao makes an appearance.

	01-07-2005 10:19									#8
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Check the following:

1. BIOS setting on your notebook
2. The USB cable


Which Operating System are you using?

	01-07-2005 10:23									#9
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I'm using Windows XP Professional. I don't think it's the BIOS necessarily because we tried on my friend's desktop too (with the enclosure kit) and it wouldn't recognize it on his computer either. I'm not quite sure how to check the USB cable, however, since I don't have another I can replace it with...

	01-07-2005 10:31									#10
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Welcome back, Mao. LTNS.

	01-07-2005 10:32									#11
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You may also need to tinker with the BIOS setting on your friend's computer too

Don't forget to make the the IDE cable is plugged in correctly. Usually that is not a problem, because the connectors are more or less one way nowadays.

When something goes wrong cable is always the first thing I check.

	01-07-2005 10:58									#12
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The USB cable is fine because you said it was recognising it was there.

Can you check for the latest drivers on your USB kit?

	01-07-2005 11:14									#13
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John, yeah, how's it been around here?

UR, I think Sn00py's right, the computer recognizes that it's there. I installed the drivers from the CD that came with the enclosure kit...I'm not sure what else I should need to do.

	01-07-2005 11:21									#14
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Ok what is the make and exact name of the kit?

The fact that it is 160gb could cause problems. Did you format it as NTFS?

	01-07-2005 11:28									#15
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The kit itself is an Adaptec USB 2.0 hard drive Enclosure Kit that's supposed to be able to support hard drives larger than 137 gigs. I simply installed what was on the install CD from the enclosure kit, I'm not sure what NTFS stands for...haha

UR, what BIOS settings would I need for it to work?

	01-07-2005 11:30									#16
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse OzzyKP

(I literally burst out laughing)

Oh, as to the OP! Faded Glory, our savior, has resurrected ANOTHER poster! First Dissident, then Fez, and now Mao! It's a mid summer MIRACLE!

	01-07-2005 12:27									#17
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Mao,

Is the harddisk SATA? (adaptecs site doesn't mention that it supports SATA).

edit: nvm, I just realised you said you plugged in the power.

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	01-07-2005 12:37									#18
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Make sure its all plugged in, go into WinXP and go to Computer Management (Control Panel>Admin Tools>)

Look for the drive in there, then format it again. (Somewhere at some point it should ask you to map it to a drive letter, once this is all done, you should be ready to use it).

	01-07-2005 14:16									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Mao John, yeah, how's it been around here? UR, I think Sn00py's right, the computer recognizes that it's there. I installed the drivers from the CD that came with the enclosure kit...I'm not sure what else I should need to do.

Did you attach it before or after installing the drivers?

It's best with USB devices to install the drivers first.

	01-07-2005 14:20									#20
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Damn, Mao, Faded Glory, even Diss showed up for a little bit.

Who is next?

	01-07-2005 14:32									#21
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Actually, since he is using WinXP, he doesn't need the USB drivers.

	01-07-2005 14:33									#22
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Mao, have you got any other USB devices?

If not, check to make sure USB is turned on in your BIOS.

	01-07-2005 14:46									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Mao I figure here would be one of the best places to post a problem... I recently purchased a 160 gig internal hard drive and a USB enclosure kit. I formatted the hard drive on a friend's desktop computer, so I'm pretty sure it works. However, when I place it into the enclosure kit and plug the ribbon and power source in and connect it to my laptop, I get in "installation error." The computer recognizes that a USB has been plugged in, but I guess doesn't know what it is. I've installed all the things from the installation CDs and such, so I would assume that shouldn't be a problem. I also have the hard drive on a slave setting as I plan to use it as a secondary hard drive. So...anyone know what's going on? Now, let the "MAO-SIGHTING!!!" comments commence...but can anyone help?

Look in the manual if the HDD needs to be jumpered master or simply try.

	01-07-2005 19:02									#24
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Sn00py, I have other USB devices in, and I unplugged them when I use the enclosure, so I assume my USB is turned on.

Ata, I've tried with the hard drive fixed to bother master and slave positions, neither work.

	01-07-2005 19:10									#25
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Mao, try setting the drive jumper to CS (cable select.) If USB still doesn't "see" it, remove the ribbon cable & power cable from your CD drive & plug in the hard drive there, and see if it's detected when you boot up (trying to see if the prob is the drive or USB rig.) You don't have to mount the drive, just set it on a box next to the PC so it's not dangling from the cables.

	01-07-2005 19:15									#26
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How do I set it to CS? Also, I don't think I can really fit in the hard drive where my CD drive is as the opening in my laptop isn't big enough. I have a Dell Latitude D600 so the hard drive won't fit in anywhere...

	01-07-2005 19:17									#27
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Oh, it's a laptop drive. I thought it was a desktop.

How do you set it to either master or slave? It's usually a jumper on some pins. The CS option should be there as well.

	01-07-2005 19:20									#28
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse OzzyKP

Why, oh, why didn't I post a bad geeky joke about Lisp in that thread while it was still open?

	01-07-2005 19:24									#29
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quote: Originally posted by ajbera Oh, it's a laptop drive. I thought it was a desktop. How do you set it to either master or slave? It's usually a jumper on some pins. The CS option should be there as well.

Setting it to master/slave is that little plastic thingy that I can place in different places. I'm not sure what CS means...

	01-07-2005 19:28									#30
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On a normal drive there are usually about five sets of pins you can jumper (the little plastic thingie.) Do you have a schematic of the drive settings?

I have to leave for work now, so I won't be able to check the boards for a couple of hours. Good luck. I'll check back later.