04-07-2005 04:34									#61
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	04-07-2005 07:52									#62
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Happy Independence Day, everyone!

	04-07-2005 09:26									#63
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And if you are celebrating it in Scotland - you can have the Firth of July.

	04-07-2005 10:47									#64
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun And here's to our kick-ass revolution that let the world know that "divine right of monarchs" was/is bullsh!t.

	04-07-2005 12:22									#65
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I'm celebrating the holiday with my family.

	04-07-2005 12:26									#66
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Cool pics Mr fun I think we might go get some fireworks later today. Just to finish off the celebration.

	04-07-2005 23:23									#67
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The fireworks I saw with some friends last night were beautiful.

	04-07-2005 23:35									#68
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun France was an absolute monarchy before its own revolution happened in the 1780s and 1790s. Prussia was also a monarchical state. Great Britain was the European nation that had a form of monarchical government that relied much less on the idea of "divine right of monarchs." But the "divine right of monarchs" existed through the 1830s.

Well quite, given that the English Civil War and aftermath saw Parliament remove any divine right of kings in 1688.

	04-07-2005 23:53									#69
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I know

	05-07-2005 00:05									#70
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I was complementing.

	05-07-2005 00:15									#71
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Cool, and thanks for the complementary thoughts to this thread.



Are you celebrating this day?

	05-07-2005 00:19									#72
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I am, I'm renting a copy of The Patriot with Mel Gibson.

Then I might have a Bud before I start on the beers.

	05-07-2005 00:56									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin I am, I'm renting a copy of The Patriot with Mel Gibson.

Excellent choice

quote: Then I might have to watch Air Bud before I start on the Root beers.

Hey family Flicks are neat

Have fun

	05-07-2005 02:54									#74
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun France was an absolute monarchy before its own revolution happened in the 1780s and 1790s. Prussia was also a monarchical state. Great Britain was the European nation that had a form of monarchical government that relied much less on the idea of "divine right of monarchs." But the "divine right of monarchs" existed through the 1830s.

Absolute monarchy doesn't equal divine right of monarchs! I would think that any advocates of the divine right of kings anywhere on the continent would have died out after Cromwell's Revolution in England in 1660, where a king was swept out by Parliament.

You can't believe that the kings of Europe were appointed by God and then have that king be overthrown and beheaded.

Even in France's ancien regime, power was shared between the monarchy, the clergy, and the aristocracy. The monarch did not rule alone before the French Revolution. Hell, the lack of power of the French monarch was a direct result of the revolution (because the Estates General was called in order to raise money).

	05-07-2005 08:49									#75
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I caught The Crossing earlier today on the History Channel. Good story about Washington crossing the Delaware River and his attack on Trenton. It was very American -- there were lots and lots of commercials.

	05-07-2005 08:53									#76
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Grandpa You Crack me up!

Good stuff

	06-07-2005 15:12									#77
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Lest We Forgive.....

	06-07-2005 15:59									#78
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Erm wasn't the start of the US war of independence due to one group of powerful white men arguing with another gruop of powerful white men about how much money they should get to have.

I accept that the result was the formation of a country who went on to be a fully free democracy but it didn't happen straight away.

I have to say aswell that I'm not upset or offended by people celebrating a victory over the people who were in my country over 200 years ago.

The patriot stinks though and is bad piece of filming and histrory

	06-07-2005 17:21									#79
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Actually Sam Adams started the American Revolution because he was ticked off about his Dad having been thrown into debtor's prison when he was a kid, his dad having been an alcoholic prone to spending all of his money.

	06-07-2005 17:54									#80
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The irony of the new US bankruptcy laws, and that fact that they actually sanction a five year period of de facto peonage - look at the details - for many workers is fascinating. I find the lack of response from the voters even more amazing. As per Dr. Stranglove's point, the rules and tradition of bankruptcy in the US owe their origin to the abuses of the system back in Britian, and American revulsion with the system. Those who do not learn history....