08-07-2005 07:13									#1
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According to Daily Kos, the buzz in DC is that the chief justice will announce retirement tomorrow. It's rumor at this point.

Two SCOTUS vacancies at once, and Bush gets to fill them? Be still my beating heart...

	08-07-2005 08:09									#2
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I'm afraid, very afraid.

	08-07-2005 08:12									#3
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Well, I'm not sure if this is true, but isn't "Be still my beating heart" usually used for things you think are fantastically good?

	08-07-2005 08:14									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed Well, I'm not sure if this is true, but isn't "Be still my beating heart" usually used for things you think are fantastically good?

a) It could be intense sarcasm
b) It could mean I want the palpitations of terror to subside

or

c) It could mean I'd rather die instead of see Bush get to pick 2 judges.

Or maybe even d) all of the above.

	08-07-2005 08:15									#5
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You mean there's a quiz on this?


I hate pop quizzes.

	08-07-2005 08:17									#6
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2 at once? When do the senators break out weapons?

	08-07-2005 08:21									#7
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Hmmm, that gave the amusing thought of the Senators having a musical rumble a la West Side Story. Harry Reid as Riff and Bill Frist as Bernardo. But who would be Tony? Russ Feingold?

	08-07-2005 08:55									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Hmmm, that gave the amusing thought of the Senators having a musical rumble a la West Side Story. Harry Reid as Riff and Bill Frist as Bernardo. But who would be Tony? Russ Feingold?

Hell, who would play Maria? Hilary?

	08-07-2005 08:57									#9
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I'm glad Bush gets to nominate two new justices. This way, the court will finally have the conservative court we've all been looking for, and do away with those damn liberal activist judges.

	08-07-2005 09:00									#10
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Hell, who would play Maria? Hilary?

Given that I've assigned the role of the Sharks to the GOP, it would have to be a Republican.


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	08-07-2005 09:01									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed I'm glad Bush gets to nominate two new justices. This way, the court will finally have the conservative court we've all been looking for, and do away with those damn liberal activist judges.

Speaking of which...

What defines a judge "legislating from the bench?" I'm curious as to what those opposed to "judicial activism" would say.

	08-07-2005 09:03									#12
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I can see the headlines now:

SENATORS TERRORIZE CAPITOL WITH SINGING AND DANCING

	08-07-2005 09:39									#13
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Turning the US Senate into a musical? You are SO GAY!

	08-07-2005 09:43									#14
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they should bring back duels

	08-07-2005 10:26									#15
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Because Sumner was really fun for the whole family.

	08-07-2005 17:48									#16
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How bad could Reihnquist retiring actually be? Is Bush really going to be able to appoint someone more conservative that he was?

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Bring back Bjork!

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Interesting...I can see the admin setting up another "compromise" to get one extremely conservative and one moderate-conservative out of this. Two at once? How many times has that happened before?

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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed I'm glad Bush gets to nominate two new justices. This way, the court will finally have the conservative court we've all been looking for, and do away with those damn liberal activist judges.

And then we will be stuck with stupid, power-hungry conservative judges.

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How come in every discussion of Rehnquist quitting now, everyone thinks Bush will go for a comprimise of 1 conservative and 1 moderate conservative.

If he wants to satisfy the desires of his evangelical electors, won't he need to nominate 2 hardliners?

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quote: Originally posted by Ninot How come in every discussion of Rehnquist quitting now, everyone thinks Bush will go for a comprimise of 1 conservative and 1 moderate conservative. If he wants to satisfy the desires of his evangelical electors, won't he need to nominate 2 hardliners?

See the "gang of 14"

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Well yeah, the Democrats are gonna filibuster if he nominates 2 hardliners.

But the same people who came out in droves to make sure gay marriage was eliminated in so many states aren't gonna be very pleased if the Supreme Court goes back to some kind of status quo.

As I understand it, for O'Connor's replacement, they'll filibuster anyone who's anti-abortion.

	08-07-2005 19:39									#23
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quote: As I understand it, for O'Connor's replacement, they'll filibuster anyone who's anti-abortion.

Not necessarily, since unless Kennedy changes his mind from his position in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, there are still five pro-choice justices even without O'Connor.

It looks like Gonzales is the most socially liberal candidate that Shrub'll appoint (the theocons consider him to be another Souter). But I'd much rather have a reasonable social conservative. Unfortunately Reid has seemed to endorse Speedy Confession.

	08-07-2005 19:44									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Not necessarily, since unless Kennedy changes his mind from his position in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, there are still five pro-choice justices even without O'Connor. It looks like Gonzales is the most socially liberal candidate that Shrub'll appoint (the theocons consider him to be another Souter). But I'd much rather have a reasonable social conservative. Unfortunately Reid has seemed to endorse Speedy Confession.

Oh yeah, abortion laws aren't going to get turned on their head just quite yet, but i still remember a few Senators being asked if the abortion issue was important enough to filibuster, and them saying yes.

Gonzales would be a good pick tho. I just think many Republicans wouldn't like'm.

	08-07-2005 20:23									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Speaking of which... What defines a judge "legislating from the bench?" I'm curious as to what those opposed to "judicial activism" would say.

Generally, when the constitution/law says one thing, and they do something else.

The case I posted eariler for instance:A law passed by congress said that a citizen convicted in any court could be deprived of the ability to lawfully possess a weapon, and the court ruled that it applied only to domestic courts. And they further said that if the law had meant to be for any court they should have said any court . that is legislating from the bench.

and for a more traditional example, the "right to privacy". It is a good idea, but we need to go through the amendment process and explicitly specify what it means and what it applies to. It does not as of yet exist in the constitution.

	08-07-2005 20:26									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Not necessarily, since unless Kennedy changes his mind from his position in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, there are still five pro-choice justices even without O'Connor. It looks like Gonzales is the most socially liberal candidate that Shrub'll appoint (the theocons consider him to be another Souter). But I'd much rather have a reasonable social conservative. Unfortunately Reid has seemed to endorse Speedy Confession.

Probably cause NARAL commands a lot more votes than does Amnesty Int

	08-07-2005 20:37									#27
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quote: they should bring back duels

That would be a bad day for the Democrats I should think.

	08-07-2005 20:39									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos That would be a bad day for the Democrats I should think.

Ha, thats not an argument to get started on.

	08-07-2005 20:40									#29
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Agreed.

	08-07-2005 20:57									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo But I'd much rather have a reasonable social conservative.

Out of interest what conservative would you be able to hold your nose long enough to endorse? (This question can go to Boris as well) Personally, I'm hoping for a justice in the model of Scalia.