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Bill3000 is offline Bill3000
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I'm bored. And I havn't made a thread in like four years. So...

Imagine that you have the ability to make two states of the US secede from the country permanently. What would those two states be?

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Texas and Florida.

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Alaska and Maine

We'd take them in...

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Most of Maine used to be yours anyway.

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Not while Canada was Canada it wasn't.

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Minnesota and North Dakota, as long as we are taken in by Canada.

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Texas and Florida.


Do you have any reasons to back this, other than your need to fit in with the other snobby, pseudo-elites?

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Most of Maine used to be yours anyway.


Actually, only the northern tip was British/Canadian.

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California and Arkansas.

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Actually, only the northern tip was British/Canadian.

And in hindsight, it wasn't really worth taking...

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Texas would probably be able to look after itself pretty well on its own. Also, having it as an independant state would make it easier to pressure them to cut down the pollution levels a bit. And Alaska to Canada, because they can probably be trusted (more than Bush) with somewhere like that without carving it up for oil.

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Actually, only the northern tip was British/Canadian.


A big chunk of it. At least, according to the British

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It looks like you want to take back my families old homestead area (there is a big family reunion out in wisconsin/minnesota this summer, I am suppose to go but don't think I will)

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EITHER California and Texas....


*OR* My home state of New York, and we'd take New Jersey with us(New Jersey, you guys are l33t!)

We have a very significant population, enough food production in our two states to support our two populations, trillions of dollars in corporate headquarters... manufacturing..... we have quite a bit of military power here too(New York has the largest sub base ON THE PLANET)

Then we'd be able to escape the stupidity of the federal goverment.

Small goverment > big goverment.


I bet I am the only person here to think of kicking out their OWN state .


If possible, New York and New Jersey(The United States of Liberty) would consider forging a confederation with Canada... canadas population is AROUND 32 million. The population of New York is 20.5 million and New Jersey is 8 million.

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Alabama and Mississippi -- Let's raise the curve.

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Interesting point, Vesayen. Actually, I'd think it would be interesting if the US broke up into smaller parts.

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New York almost succeded a number of times.

I hate the federal goverment.

Given the choice I would emigrate to another country but A. I only speak english well B. no other country has the same security and C. its questionable if any other country has a better goverment.

I *REALLY* hate the federal goverment.

Not in a "I am moving to an isolated shack and writing manifestos about how much I hate technology" sort of way but in a "the U.S. population is so large that the federal goverment dilutes the value of my vote to the point of unimportance, plus the level of corruption which goes unquestioned infuriates me" sor of way.



Blocks of states where the only federal oversight is on matters of commerce, communication, transportation and mutual defense would allow Americans to actually have a say in their goverment. The federal goverment is so bloated, tyrannical, and CORRUPT that it will never be pure.

You and I have no say in our goverment-*NONE*. The crushing weight of an overwhelming majority combined with the ultra wealthy buying policy change has made our effect on goverment, zero.

If tommorow the entire world formed one democracy, your say in goverment would be identical-it has already been diluted to zero.


Carve up the country according to the desires of the individual states... New York, New Jersey and proboably Penn. as one, everything north of that would proboably want to either be in their own block, or independant, washington state, nevada and california as another... I bet you the mid west would be the least divided..... texas would proboably go off on its own, so would florida, the rest of the south would proboably split east to west, with missippi as the western border of one half.

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California and Arkansas.


It's ok. I know you're just teasing me.

my suggestions

Texas and Wyoming

Texas, because no one likes Texas, and Wyoming, because it isn't even a real state anyway. It does not exist, do you know anyone from Wyoming?

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New York almost succeded a number of times.



At what?

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we have quite a bit of military power here too(New York has the largest sub base ON THE PLANET)


You should REALLY check that again before succeeding. You will find yourself a little empty handed when the fighting starts.

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At what?





(psst, Vesayen, it's secede)

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A big chunk of it. At least, according to the British



The brits really got ripped off when they gave up thier claims to NE Minnesota. Thanks for all the iron, suckers.

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Ok Im gonna raise the red bul flags to try and figure out why everyone hates texas. And whoever it was that said texas could take care of it self you are right, we were an independant before becoming part of the usa. So all you texas bashers here is your chance to say why you hate this state.

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No one really "hates" Texas, we just give you a good ribbing for your citizens' self-importance at being Texans. Congratulations, you were born and/or live in the largest artificial landmass of the lower 48 states. Now shut up about it, and take those stupid bumper stickers off your cars.

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It's not so much as hate, as a desire to avoid/ignore.

But I'd say Indiana (KKK HQ) and Kansas (to get rid of those Xian nutjobs).

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Do you have any reasons to back this, other than your need to fit in with the other snobby, pseudo-elites?


Ensuring Democrat presidents from now on is good enough for me.

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But I'd say Indiana (KKK HQ) and Kansas (to get rid of those Xian nutjobs).

INDIANA

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Texas is America's France, basically. (Or is it France is Europe's Texas? )

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No. GB would be Europe's Texas.

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and Wyoming, because it isn't even a real state anyway. It does not exist, do you know anyone from Wyoming?


Yes, several.

 
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