11-07-2005 21:55									#1
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I was doing some research on a company called ATK which looked like a good investment when I came across this fascinating gadget.

quote: XM25 Air-Burst Assault Weapon The XM25 air-burst assault weapon is a next-generation, semi-automatic weapon system designed for effectiveness against enemies protected by walls, dug into foxholes, or hidden in hard-to-reach places. The XM25 provides the soldier with a 300 to 500% increase in hit probability to defeat point, area, and defilade targets out to 500 meters. The weapon features revolutionary high-explosive, air-burst ammunition programmed by the weapon's target acquisition/fire control system. The XM25 integrates ballistics computation in the full-solution Target Acquisition/Fire Control (TA/FC) system. The soldier places the aim point on target and activates the laser rangefinder. The fire control system provides an adjusted aim point. The soldier places the adjusted aim point on target and pulls the trigger. Target information is communicated to the chambered 25mm round. As the round speeds down range, it measures the distance traveled and bursts precisely at the distance preprogrammed. The XM25 precisely delivers air-bursting munitions in all conditions, including MOUT and complex terrain. It is five times more lethal at the M203 maximum range and continues to provide lethality well beyond the M203's maximum ability. The system is designed for optimum performance at 300 meters but will perform to 500 meters and beyond. It includes five different types of ammunition: Thermobaric Flechette Training High Explosive Air Bursting Non-Lethal

Buck ****ing Rogers

	11-07-2005 22:14									#2
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Looks like a toy...

	11-07-2005 22:18									#3
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That helps bypass airport security.

	11-07-2005 22:23									#4
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It's cool because kills are now more effective

	11-07-2005 22:26									#5
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Let me get this straight: the bullets have their own guiding system and compensate for a bad aim? The munitions must be ****ing expansive.

	11-07-2005 22:27									#6
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That's right. I think you'd be better of with training the gun usage more than getting these fancy guns and weapons. Cheaper and at the end more effective.

	11-07-2005 22:29									#7
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The munitions are unguided. They just measure the distance traveled.

	11-07-2005 22:29									#8
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Isn't ATK the old Morton Thiokol?

	11-07-2005 22:30									#9
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It doesn't sound like it compensates for bad aim--it just detonates the round at a specified distance from the shooter. Although smart rounds like that do apparently exist.

	11-07-2005 22:41									#10
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It allows you to shoot around obsticles in a round about way.

	11-07-2005 23:03									#11
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yup, hit people behind walls, or in trenches.... COOL

	11-07-2005 23:04									#12
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Death.

	11-07-2005 23:11									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Let me get this straight: the bullets have their own guiding system and compensate for a bad aim? The munitions must be ****ing expansive.

No. The explosive shells are time-on-target and the gun itself corrects for drop (and possibly windage) based on the range to target.

	11-07-2005 23:12									#14
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Ray guns are way cooler.

	12-07-2005 00:04									#15
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quote: It includes five different types of ammunition: Thermobaric Flechette Training High Explosive Air Bursting Non-Lethal

I haven't heard flechette ammunition mentioned since the 60's. Glad to see its making a come back.

Non-Lethal ammunition? What's that do, scatter little pieces of papers saying, "If I were really angry, you'd be dead by now."

	12-07-2005 00:12									#16
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quote: Glad to see its making a come back.

Why? Flechette wounds are horrific

	12-07-2005 00:14									#17
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(that was sarcasm -- i shudda stuck in a "rolleyes" guy)

	12-07-2005 00:22									#18
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse quote: Glad to see its making a come back. Why? Flechette wounds are horrific

Yeah, I've allways preferred shrapnel-wounds.

	12-07-2005 00:32									#19
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Shrapnel wounds tend to be more treatable, actually

Flechettes penetrate deeply and then often fragment or bend

	12-07-2005 00:59									#20
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Why didn't they have that in X-COM.

	12-07-2005 01:04									#21
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........I want one.

	12-07-2005 01:05									#22
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And btw IMO this thing is a waste of resources because when the terrorists learn about it they simply will avoid these hard-to-reach places.

	12-07-2005 01:07									#23
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.......you mean avoid cover?

ROFL yeah sure-they'll teach us GOOD and stand out in the open!

	12-07-2005 01:08									#24
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Ha! That's what noone does expect!

	12-07-2005 01:16									#25
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@ BeBro and Vesayen.

	12-07-2005 01:32									#26
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This will make it easier to kill the other guys, and that will save our guys lives. If I'm in the field, I'd rather have one than not.

It's really simple. The sarge tells you to kill that guy behind that rock. Well, you can either run your silly ass over there, likely getting killed on the way, or you can take your X-whatever gun, and shoot him without getting off your belly.

You decide, smartass.*

*Just added to give it the 'drill sarge' kinda feel.

"Non-Lethal ammunition? What's that do, scatter little pieces of papers saying, "If I were really angry, you'd be dead by now."

Zkrib, that's beautiful.

	12-07-2005 01:35									#27
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How about simply having an auto rotating tripod mounted launcher that would have a large clip of ammo attached to it, and that would be placed slightly behind a squad and launch this ammo on command given by laser pointers.

	12-07-2005 01:51									#28
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So, do any of these superguns that get press from time to time actually, you know, get deployed at some point?

	12-07-2005 01:57									#29
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"Non-lethal" ammo

Only if it hits you right.

	12-07-2005 01:58									#30
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In Vietnam the first night vision scoped weapons got delivered under security escort straight to the actual troops that needed them. Just so they didn't end up on a politicians wall or a general's private collection, or worse.