14-07-2005 12:00									#1
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Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.

Here is the SAVE!

Status (from last turn)
Government currently in: Despotism
Current research: Iron Working, nothing researched so far
Treasury: 10 gold
Cashflow: 4 gpt


Pre-Turn Actions
none

Military Orders


Warriors:
none


Domestic Orders

Workers:
worker (name him Mr. Rush Job) - Irrigate (4 turns to complete).


Settlers:
none

Cities:
Apolyton - Currently building Worker )turn 2 of 5). Starting WF 5. NC.

Diplomacy to be done
none


Any other things to be done

Last edited by BigFree on 14-07-2005 at 22:59

	14-07-2005 12:02									#2
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I have overtaken the functions of the consuls but I'd like to see the thread for the new turn right after the save was sent. We have three consuls, one should have the time to do it

Also removed the color tags because the people are using different themes and some of titles may be almost invisible

Edited by nye to post results

Actions:
Bob Irrigates cow (I shall call him Bob til told by the people what else to call him). Edit: Doh!

Cities:
Apolyton WF 5

Economy:
Slider to 0/100/0 (tax/sci/lux).
Researching Iron Working (4 of 180, 45t)
Treasury: 14g
CashFlow: 0gpt

Shots:

Last edited by notyoueither on 18-07-2005 at 09:08

	14-07-2005 12:17									#3
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I sort of liked the colors.

	14-07-2005 16:46									#4
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I said this is my vision

if the representatives desire, they could put the colors back

or use them in the next turn thread (which I will not start, no matter what I like and what - not)

	14-07-2005 17:46									#5
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A lot of choices this turn:

Does Mr Rush Job mine or irrigate?
suggestion: mine!



It's growth and worker-build in 4 turns, I believe, not 5.

	14-07-2005 18:38									#6
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it was 5 last turn, so i wrote 5

	14-07-2005 21:11									#7
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I just got the save so let's go.

	14-07-2005 21:53									#8
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We're still #1 in all Demographics stats.
No one grows faster (as expected from last turn's stats).

If I switch the labourer away - we become #6 in Mfg Goods (and others), so the last team also settled on Turn 1. This corresponds to the scores - they are all 25.

Productivity stats:
8 - #6
9 - #5
10 - #1

This is the same situation as in Turn 1.
1 civ is at 9 (one less food), the others are at 10.

	14-07-2005 22:47									#9
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I wouldn't be surprised if just abourt every Civ got a cow within their city radius. If there is such a thing, this map may be the most balanced one we've ever seen. Emperor and the admins may have decided that the only way to prevent future *****ing would be to have things as even as possible without having a checkerboard.

	14-07-2005 23:00									#10
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Save has been uploaded for those not yet on the mailing list.

	14-07-2005 23:00									#11
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Dominae did the same thing in the C3CDG, but he pu all of the cows on plains.

I think that the reason a game tile was put in our borders was so that BAT could have a 4 turn pump, as they are not Agricultural. Unfortunalty, it means that we have another 4 turn pump to play with...

	15-07-2005 02:30									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Krill I think that the reason a game tile was put in our borders was so that BAT could have a 4 turn pump, as they are not Agricultural. Unfortunalty, it means that we have another 4 turn pump to play with...

Not really. If there is no other bonus food sourse around, we would only get +4 fpt with an irragated game and a city on a river under despotism. Still it would be a ggod place to build EW, Wk, WK, WK, EW, etc.

	15-07-2005 02:34									#13
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No, under despotism, we would get +5 fpt, with an irrigated game (+2 fpt) and another 3 fpt provided by the city tile.

	15-07-2005 02:42									#14
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No...
+2 for grass
+1 for game
-1 for despotism penalty
+1 for irrigation.
=3 fpt for the game tile.

So between the city center and the game tile we get 6 fpt, with 2 eaten by the population, netting +4 fpt.

	15-07-2005 03:01									#15
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I see the save has arived, will our consuls play soon?

	15-07-2005 03:02									#16
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Game, and Wheat, are +2 food.

Cows are +2 food, and +1 shield

Wines and Sugar are +1 food.

	15-07-2005 04:06									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Krill Game, and Wheat, are +2 food.

I don't think that's right.

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3/resources/#bonus

	15-07-2005 04:08									#18
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That page is wrong. Game are +2 food.

	15-07-2005 05:45									#19
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I'm in chat, now

Join me in #ApolytonC3CISDG room, on CivIRC, password is 'temp'

The other room, #ApolytonISDG room is currently unsecure, as no one is Op-ed and no Password has been set to make it secure

E_T

	15-07-2005 11:32									#20
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why did we build a worker?

and how is the planing what the city now build in order?

worker->enkidu->?

Would be useful to know for the micromanagement.

sirleif

	15-07-2005 11:53									#21
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ET and I have debated plans over the last two chats.

Here is the plan I favour:
http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...threadid=136356

ET should be posting some specifics of his ideas.

	15-07-2005 14:01									#22
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well well...ähm wf=?

	15-07-2005 14:24									#23
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We haven't built a worker yet. I suppose we're going to switch to something else.


Why did we irrigate with the current worker? Was this discussed?

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	15-07-2005 15:03									#24
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quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster We haven't built a worker yet. I suppose we're going to switch to something else. Why did we irrigate with the current worker? Was this discussed?

we irrigate to have +5 food .

what we build in fact isn't set by team..still in progress i tnk to diskus.

but what i saw via link (some post above) is realy usefull .

	15-07-2005 15:15									#25
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Irrigated Game on Grassland means +4 Food. With the city tile producing 3, we would get the second city to +5fpt. I thought that was obvious... and precisely the reason to Chop that Game Forest as soon as possible.

And, of course, same goes for Irrigating that Cattle near the capital.

	15-07-2005 18:00									#26
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I think we will chop the forest to accelerate the granary
(if we stick to the plan of krill - the only one we have)

	15-07-2005 18:24									#27
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quote: Originally posted by sirleif well well...ähm wf=?

ähm what does wf mean?
It is used with worker orders and i don#t know what this mean (stand for).

	15-07-2005 21:53									#28
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wf=work force

	15-07-2005 22:43									#29
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Like SO says, it stands for were we place the citizens of each city. It is an assigment for exactly what tile each citizen will be working for a given turn.

	15-07-2005 23:34									#30
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quote: Originally posted by ormuzd I think we will chop the forest to accelerate the granary (if we stick to the plan of krill - the only one we have)

as my first comment