22-07-2005 01:11									#31
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Yes it does. You're talking about "polyandry"...

No, it doesn't. Well, only colloquially.

"Polyandry" contrasts with "polygyny". "Polygamy" encompasses both, but we might as well give up on "polygamy" as a generic and adopt something like "polyamory".

	22-07-2005 01:19									#32
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I thought polyamory included beastiality also

jM

	22-07-2005 01:27									#33
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Let's just avoid the confusion and call it all "marriage".

	22-07-2005 01:32									#34
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nope

marriage should only go to stable, advantageous relationships that support society

JM

	22-07-2005 01:33									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller nope marriage should only go to stable, advantageous relationships that support society JM

So the vast majority of marriages arn't marriages, then?

	22-07-2005 01:39									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller marriage should only go to stable, advantageous relationships that support society

Britain and US must cement their alliance by having Bush wed Blair. It's for the good of their countries. Stability.

	22-07-2005 01:40									#37
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But then the UK could get a CB on us.

	22-07-2005 01:40									#38
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It's simply a word without any real meaning. Let's be inclusive with our new definition.

	22-07-2005 01:42									#39
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Yes it does. You're talking about "polyandry"... No, it doesn't. Well, only colloquially. "Polyandry" contrasts with "polygyny". "Polygamy" encompasses both, but we might as well give up on "polygamy" as a generic and adopt something like "polyamory".

Polyamory, IIUC, is a 'lifestyle' (and is most definitely quite legal here in the states) polygamy, OTOH, is a legal arrangement, and is NOT.

	22-07-2005 01:42									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker But then the UK could get a CB on us.

Well, if UK and US sign a Royal Marriage, UK would only get a CB if:
-US broke off the Royal Marriage
-UK went to war, called its allies, and the US didn't join (?)

	22-07-2005 01:43									#41
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Or they claimed the throne.

	22-07-2005 01:44									#42
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Polyamory, IIUC, is a 'lifestyle' (and is most definitely quite legal here in the states) polygamy, OTOH, is a legal arrangement, and is NOT.

Actually, even monogamy as a lifestyle is illegal in 7 states.

	22-07-2005 01:52									#43
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No, it shouldn't be legal.

Not that I'm personally that opposed to it, but aren't divorces between two people messy enough? I mean, come on here... Who would get to keep wife #4 and husband #2 here? And their kids?

And jesus, what if wife #6 wanted to divorce wife #5, but they both wanted to keep husband #2? Just...

Well, Imran and other lawyers would win.

	22-07-2005 02:04									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Bill3000 So the vast majority of marriages arn't marriages, then?

most marriages do not end up breaking up faster then most other arrangements

so while marriages aren't perfect, they are better..

JM

	22-07-2005 02:05									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Bill3000 So the vast majority of marriages arn't marriages, then?

good one. I was thinking the same thing.

	22-07-2005 02:09									#46
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Marriages are expensive, too. With Poly-marriage, that's just a lot of money down on silly multiple celebrations. And with polymarriage, that's just a lot of wierdness. I can't imagine Agathon and Asher tying the knot.

Then again, why are divorces so expensive? Because they're worth it. ZING!

	22-07-2005 05:39									#47
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quote: No. It should be illegal. It will leave too many men without wives and lead to a corresponding increase in violence. That's why it tends to be illegal.

So women and men should not be allowed to marry whom they want because someone else left out of the marriage game will commit crimes? Seems to me these violent men make bad husbands and the targets of their violence will be their wives and children. Btw, polygamy was outlawed in this country because many Christians opposed it on religious grounds, Adam and Eve blah blah blah.

Since an alleged reduction in violence is your standard and not freedom, why not just force women to marry men they dont want to marry?

	22-07-2005 06:42									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed No, it shouldn't be legal. Not that I'm personally that opposed to it, but aren't divorces between two people messy enough? I mean, come on here... Who would get to keep wife #4 and husband #2 here? And their kids? And jesus, what if wife #6 wanted to divorce wife #5, but they both wanted to keep husband #2? Just... Well, Imran and other lawyers would win.

Sorry in the instance of polyogemy there isnt husband number 2 there is only one hubby that wnats to have wifes # 1 thru infinity so the husband confusion is out here.

	22-07-2005 07:04									#49
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Current Wife #1 of Mr. T, I must say that my post there was meant in jest, and had absolutely no real, argumentary bearing on the topic at hand.

	22-07-2005 07:52									#50
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Thats because polygamy in this country was tied to a specific religion and has been illegal for a long time. There are or have been polygamist cultures where women had multiple husbands. When we say polygamy should be legal, it should be legal for women to have multiple husbands too.

	22-07-2005 23:59									#51
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I think the simplest approach would be to lift restrictions on "bigamy" or multiple marriages.

x can marry y
x can marry z
x can marry w
w can marry t
t can marry y
y can marry z

Moo.

	23-07-2005 00:35									#52
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo I think the simplest approach would be to lift restrictions on "bigamy" or multiple marriages. x can marry y x can marry z x can marry w w can marry t t can marry y y can marry z Moo.

Problem is, under current law, if x goes into debt, the creditor can go after Y's assets. Which presumably means Y can be forced to use Ts assets to pay off X's debt, even though T never consented to the marriag to X.

Y'all seem to think this is about sex. Except for the states leo mentioned, who rarely enforce their laws anyway, anyone can live with and sleep with whomever they want. Its about legal relationships. Property. Etc.

	23-07-2005 00:40									#53
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Some of you people live in an absolute dream world.
As hard as it is to find a compatable individual, you vote for polygamy. Thanks. I needed the laugh.

	23-07-2005 01:07									#54
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Some of you people live in an absolute dream world. As hard as it is to find a compatable individual, you vote for polygamy. Thanks. I needed the laugh.

it can't be that hard to find a compatible individual. People have been doing it for thousands of years with ease.

	23-07-2005 02:15									#55
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most of that time marriages were arranged..

JM

	23-07-2005 02:40									#56
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I always hear those are the happiest marriages. But that could be just talk.

	23-07-2005 04:09									#57
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What's the percentage that ends in divorce in the USA? Right at 50%. Still want to talk polygamy? You go right ahead.
Oh, good. I get another laugh.

	23-07-2005 04:36									#58
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Some of you people live in an absolute dream world. As hard as it is to find a compatable individual, you vote for polygamy. Thanks. I needed the laugh.

Hmmm... some of us have been married for years

If you actually took the time to read what many people are saying... you would see that people think it should be legal... not necessarily that it something they would want to do... hell... one wife is more than enough for me

	23-07-2005 04:42									#59
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Slow, I thought you believed in freedom?

	23-07-2005 07:26									#60
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Y'all seem to think this is about sex. Except for the states leo mentioned, who rarely enforce their laws anyway, anyone can live with and sleep with whomever they want. Its about legal relationships. Property. Etc.

Add inheritance, guardianship, etc...