21-07-2005 01:27									#1
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I'll post this article, although I'm not sure if this article is the best example. I'm not sure if the article mentions it, but I believe this is the same guy who unofficially married a 13 year old girl. Yet authorities don't call it what it really is- paedophilia. They continue to call it polygamy in an attempt to slam the practice.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_h...s/26878692.html

But assuming these are all consenting adult women, what's wrong with it? And it's not even true polygamy, because officially they are only married to one women. They just happen to live with the others.

	21-07-2005 01:31									#2
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As far as I'm concerned, it should be legal if all are "consenting adults"... I hold the same view for gay marriages. Consenting adults who love each other and want to get married should be allowed to.

	21-07-2005 01:35									#3
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quote: Consenting adults who love each other and want to get married should be allowed to.

So hot, young women shouldn't be allowed to marry elderly billionaires?

	21-07-2005 01:38									#4
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo So hot, young women shouldn't be allowed to marry elderly billionaires?

If they are of legal age, and want to get married, and aren't being forced into it... let them marry their sugar daddies

	21-07-2005 01:40									#5
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No. It should be illegal. It will leave too many men without wives and lead to a corresponding increase in violence.

That's why it tends to be illegal.

	21-07-2005 01:46									#6
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It should be legal in modern societies where women are fairly well empowered, and where divorce can be initiated without any significant hassle by any partner. So the US and Europe qualify.

But the laws must be made to make sure that there won't be one absolutely dominated partner: in most countries where polygamy is actually practiced, it tends to be a tool for male domination.

	21-07-2005 01:52									#7
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you know that the US and EU both have problems with sex slavery

sure, sections of are society have significant female empowerment, but others don't

also, marriage between two people should be supported by the government (I feel) (this is the reason I am in favor of homosexual marriage) (it shuold be supported because it is the most beneficial to be people involved)

JM

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Well, I guess that there are also some elderly billioneuses that wouldn't mind marrying three or four hot studs to sweeten their lifes

Polygamy doesn't nessecarily mean one male and several females.

	21-07-2005 02:05									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor It should be legal in modern societies where women are fairly well empowered, and where divorce can be initiated without any significant hassle by any partner. So the US and Europe qualify. But the laws must be made to make sure that there won't be one absolutely dominated partner: in most countries where polygamy is actually practiced, it tends to be a tool for male domination.

you wouldn't think that though.

if the women were smart they would team together and withhold sex. They should form a union.

	21-07-2005 02:22									#10
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(civil) marriage is a legal relationship, which establishes certain rights and responsibilities. That is why gay people want it - theyre NOT trying to undermine traditional marriage, pace certain folks, they want things like the right to determine whos at a loved ones bedside in a hospital - the status of next of kin - automatic inheritance rights - automatic responsibility for debt - rights to insurance same as Straights have.

Now lets say I hire somebody, and he turns out to have 15 spouses - do i have to provide insurance for all 15? Does it make sense for the state to establish 15 folks as his next of kin? If he wants to leave this relationship, does he have to have 15 seperate divorces? Or just one to which all 15 are parties? Does the marriage for the remaining 15 go on, or does it dissolve, like a partnership.


A legal nightmare I think.

	21-07-2005 02:28									#11
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I support harems.

	21-07-2005 02:47									#12
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark (civil) marriage is a legal relationship, which establishes certain rights and responsibilities. That is why gay people want it - theyre NOT trying to undermine traditional marriage, pace certain folks, they want things like the right to determine whos at a loved ones bedside in a hospital - the status of next of kin - automatic inheritance rights - automatic responsibility for debt - rights to insurance same as Straights have. Now lets say I hire somebody, and he turns out to have 15 spouses - do i have to provide insurance for all 15? Does it make sense for the state to establish 15 folks as his next of kin? If he wants to leave this relationship, does he have to have 15 seperate divorces? Or just one to which all 15 are parties? Does the marriage for the remaining 15 go on, or does it dissolve, like a partnership. A legal nightmare I think.

not if we had universal health care. . employers should not be paying for insurance (or they should pay taxes to the goverment to pay for insurance)

	21-07-2005 04:17									#13
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I think it should be illegal due to all the past negatives that has come out of this practice. Not to mention the inbreeding that usually occurs with it. Hell if you want to have many partners what is the need or the desire to be "Married" anyway?

	21-07-2005 04:20									#14
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quote: I think it should be illegal due to all the past negatives that has come out of this practice.

Marriage should be illegal due to the all the past negatives that have come out of that practice .

	21-07-2005 04:30									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: I think it should be illegal due to all the past negatives that has come out of this practice. Marriage should be illegal due to the all the past negatives that have come out of that practice .

Thats one way to look at it. Since Divorce rates are hi now days. But on the other hand i seem to think common law marraige living together arrangements are far more common now days anyway.

	21-07-2005 16:17									#16
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I thought polygamy was spending your entire marriage posting here.

With that lazy joke out of the way, I always thought it was illegal.

	21-07-2005 16:18									#17
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It is illegal. Utah had to outlaw it for them to reach statehood in the 19th century.

	21-07-2005 16:24									#18
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Polygamy is a practice that can be a cover for paedophilia. But so is being a Roman Catholic Priest.

Yet one is legal, and the other is not.

Yes I know I'm stretching with that comparison, but you see my point.

	21-07-2005 16:25									#19
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It's not illegal in NY. What is illegal is actually getting married to more than one person, but if you can beat the five year statute of limitations, you will legally be married to more than one person.

	21-07-2005 16:27									#20
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I just read up on it, and that probably is true.

It was only after Utah was forced to put it into their state constitution, that the federal goverment forced other western states to put it into their constitution to become states.

But my state becamse a state before Utah, so I don't think it's in ours.

quote: (from wikipedia)During the 1870s and 1880s a number of laws were set to punish polygamists, and in the 1890 Manifesto the LDS Church finally agreed to ban polygamy. When Utah applied for statehood again, it was accepted. One of the conditions to granting Utah's statehood was that a ban on polygamy be written into the Utah Constitution. This was a condition required of other western states that were also admitted later into the Union. Statehood of Utah was officially granted on January 4, 1896.

	21-07-2005 16:46									#21
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Where's the "I wish I were a polygamist" option?

	21-07-2005 18:50									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon No. It should be illegal. It will leave too many men without wives and lead to a corresponding increase in violence. That's why it tends to be illegal.

This and many of its other associated problems can be solved if an equal number of women are married to multiple men.

	21-07-2005 20:21									#23
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group societies, which have occured numerous times in history, all turned out unsuccesful

people just started pairing up at some point

JM

	21-07-2005 20:38									#24
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Legal for hippy polyamorists.

Illegal for crazy religionists.

Hippies don't really want that many pieces of paper, and there far too many religionists about, so let's keep it illegal for now.

	21-07-2005 20:39									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller group societies, which have occured numerous times in history, all turned out unsuccesful people just started pairing up at some point

I don't think duration was the point, so lack of it is not a measure of success or failure.

	21-07-2005 23:42									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller group societies, which have occured numerous times in history, all turned out unsuccesful people just started pairing up at some point JM

I think that most modern folks wouldn't put up with feeling like they are the 3rd or 4th wife.

Hubbie may feel great after a week long sexathon with his new 20 year old wife but he could be rapidly seeing his other wives disappear.

	21-07-2005 23:59									#27
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Well, I guess that there are also some elderly billioneuses that wouldn't mind marrying three or four hot studs to sweeten their lifes Polygamy doesn't nessecarily mean one male and several females.

Yes it does.

You're talking about "polyandry"...

	22-07-2005 00:09									#28
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I can support polygamy but polyandry is just plain wrong.

	22-07-2005 00:17									#29
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Yes it does. You're talking about "polyandry"...

Sorry, wasn't aware of they had different names - anyway, feminists would demand that both should be legal.

	22-07-2005 00:28									#30
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Given the way society is, Polyandry would be more realistic. Love triangles and all. meh.