28-07-2005 04:50									#1
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First a disclaimer: When I installed the 160Gig HD a couple of years ago it came up as a 130 drive, I thought "What the hell, I don't need all the space" and carried on with the install.

Guess what? Yep! Now I could do with the space, is there anyway to get it back without a format and re-install?

Bottom line: It's all my fault, Iknew it was coming, is there a way around it?

I'm running XP Pro and SP1 (I have SP2 but havn't installed in yet)

	28-07-2005 04:55									#2
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You can't access past 130GB unless your IDE controller is UltraATA/133, not 100/66/33.

Though there may be some hack/workaround somewhere to get around that limitation. Hell if I know, I'm a Serial ATA guy.

	28-07-2005 04:56									#3
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Isn't it one of these funny ones where when they quote 160GB as the capacity they are going by base of 1000 rather than 1024 which gives a completely erroneous result?

	28-07-2005 05:02									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Isn't it one of these funny ones where when they quote 160GB as the capacity they are going by base of 1000 rather than 1024 which gives a completely erroneous result?

Do the math knucklehead, I thought you had a (half) a PHD

	28-07-2005 05:03									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You can't access past 130GB unless your IDE controller is UltraATA/133, not 100/66/33. Though there may be some hack/workaround somewhere to get around that limitation. Hell if I know, I'm a Serial ATA guy.

For the sake of 40Gig and a re-format I may as well get another drive?

	28-07-2005 05:05									#6
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Is it even 40 gig? More like 10 to 20, if it's 160 in 1000-base and shows up to you as 130 in 1024-base. I think it's around 140 in 1024-base in total.

Disclaimer: I do not have a PhD

	28-07-2005 05:12									#7
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Ive just checked my controller is 133, is there anyway I can get my hands on the extra space?

(I suspect not without a reformat)

	28-07-2005 05:12									#8
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Asher is almost right but I know at least with my 200GB hard drive, a PCI card came with it I guess to be the controller for it, and it recognizes all 200gb to this day.

	28-07-2005 05:14									#9
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Ive just checked my controller is 133, is there anyway I can get my hands on the extra space? (I suspect not without a reformat)

Did you read the instructions or check out the manufacturer's website?

	28-07-2005 05:14									#10
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you need another 30 gig?! do you not think you've got enough porn reds

	28-07-2005 05:17									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Hell if I know, I'm a Serial ATA guy.

Aren't we all, though.

	28-07-2005 05:18									#12
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I just about cried yesterday when I ran out of space on my "new" (5 month old) 250GB drive.

I need to go buy a 400/500GB drive soon.

That'll push me above the terabyte mark on my computer.

	28-07-2005 05:21									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Did you read the instructions or check out the manufacturer's website?

I checked the site it is an 133 (ASRock, and yes I know!), losing the 40Gb is better than reformatting but I'd just hoped there was an easy way.

	28-07-2005 05:21									#14
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What the hell do you have that takes up 250GB? I thought even Dis' porn collection maxed out at 50?

	28-07-2005 05:23									#15
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever I checked the site it is an 133 (ASRock, and yes I know!), losing the 40Gb is better than reformatting but I'd just hoped there was an easy way.

I mean, the manufacturer may have a tool or something.

Verto: My PC is also a PVR/TiVo like thing, and I hoard things. I also download a ton of stuff.

I have a 6x dual-layer DVD burner, but the media costs too much for me to use it right now (dual-layer that is).

And my 240GB RAID is 90% full, my 250GB drive is >99% full (120MB free)...

I have a 40GB oldschool IDE drive too, which is at like 35GB.

	28-07-2005 05:24									#16
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	28-07-2005 20:01									#17
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If you use Windows XP, you have to enable over 137 GB support in the system registry. That might be your problem.

http://www.seagate.com/support/disc...g_48bit_lba.exe

Of course, you'll have to resize your partition, etc.

Good luck.

	28-07-2005 20:34									#18
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I had the exact same problem. Its basically a bug in Windows XP, before SP2. Fixing it is a major pain in the ass. Here's what they say on the Maxtor website:

https://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin...xzWVALh&p_lva=#

quote: Problem The full capacity of ATA drives larger than 137GB is not recognized by the operating system. Solution Currently, there are three options to remedy the 137 Gigabyte barrier. Failure to implement one of the following installation options will result in data loss when trying to access the hard disk beyond 137 Gigabytes. Installation Option 1. Upgrade the operating system to either Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 (or newer) or Windows XP with Service Pack 1 (or newer) and download the Maxtor Big Drive Enabler software patch. The Maxtor Big Drive Enabler, once executed, will update the Windows registry for large drive support. Installation Option 2. Download and install the Intel Application accelerator. The Intel Application Accelerator provides 48-Bit LBA compliant ATA/ATAPI controller drivers (IntelATA.mpd) and replaces the Windows 98/Me, 2000 and XP ATA controller drivers (ESDI_506.PDR). Intel is the only chipset manufacturer that we are aware of that offers a compatible controller driver for Windows . The Intel Application Accelerator only supports the following chipsets: 810, 810E, 810E2, 810L, 815, 815EP, 815G, 815EG, 815P, 820, 820E, 840, 845, 845E, 845G, 845GE, 845GL, 845GV, 845PE, 850, 850E, 860. The Intel Application Accelerator can be obtained at http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/. If you have an unsupported chipset or do not want to upgrade the operating system then try the next solution. Installation Option 3: Attach the large hard drive to an add-in Ultra ATA PCI adapter card with a 48-Bit LBA compliant BIOS and controller driver. The adapter card bypasses the system BIOS and operating system’s controller driver and uses its own BIOS and controller driver. Using an IDE ATA/ATAPI controller that has a 48-Bit LBA compatible controller driver will allow safe use of large drives beyond the previous limits of 137 GB capacity. Additional controllers that do not have 48-Bit compliant drivers cannot safely access drives larger than 137 GB. A compatible card such as the Maxtor Ultra ATA/133 PCI for Windows and Sonnet Tempo ATA/133 PCI Card for MACs can be purchased at http://www.maxstore.com (U.S. only) or at a local retailer. **For detailed step-by-step instructions please click here.

I tried the registry thingie, but it didn't work. It seems that the problem is this: when I installed Windows, using a plain vanilla Windows XP CD-ROM (that is, without SP2), Windows didn't recognize the full capacity of my hard drive and didn't format all of it, it formated about 137 GB of my hard drive. So if you do the registry thingie, you still have to reformat your hard drive. But if you reformat your hard drive you erase your registry, so it doesn't solve anything...

You will have to reformat and reinstall Windows. But if you don't have Windows XP SP2 on your cd-rom, it will not solve the problem. I solved the problem when I bought a copy of Windows XP with SP2 on it. Then I reformated and installed Windows.

	29-07-2005 02:41									#19
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Do the math knucklehead, I thought you had a (half) a PHD

You know, you have a real attitude problem...

	29-07-2005 02:46									#20
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I think you have a reading comprehension problem.

	29-07-2005 02:47									#21
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo I had the exact same problem. Its basically a bug in Windows XP, before SP2. Fixing it is a major pain in the ass. Here's what they say on the Maxtor website: https://maxtor.custhelp.com/cgi-bin...xzWVALh&p_lva=# I tried the registry thingie, but it didn't work. It seems that the problem is this: when I installed Windows, using a plain vanilla Windows XP CD-ROM (that is, without SP2), Windows didn't recognize the full capacity of my hard drive and didn't format all of it, it formated about 137 GB of my hard drive. So if you do the registry thingie, you still have to reformat your hard drive. But if you reformat your hard drive you erase your registry, so it doesn't solve anything... You will have to reformat and reinstall Windows. But if you don't have Windows XP SP2 on your cd-rom, it will not solve the problem. I solved the problem when I bought a copy of Windows XP with SP2 on it. Then I reformated and installed Windows.

Jesus, can't the idiots get anything right?

	29-07-2005 02:53									#22
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reds, get your hands on a copy of Partition Magic. This might do the trick. PM (probably) sees the part of the hd that the system doesn´t. If you install the Big Drive Enabler (or something similar) from your hd manufacturer and use PM to format the unused space it should work.

	29-07-2005 02:59									#23
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Cheers PH..;O)

I'll give a go, it's either that or start pruning my porn collection..;O(

	29-07-2005 04:05									#24
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I had this problem on two computers (one with 180gb, one with 200gb).

Partition Magic fixed it for me...

	29-07-2005 04:23									#25
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Yeah, looks like I have had the same problem all this time and I have not really noticed it...I have now found that missing space except Windows XP will not let me resize due to a stupid "Cannot resize due to system or boot disk created in earlier version of Windows". Stupid f**king piece of sh*t

	29-07-2005 04:32									#26
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I blame the hd manufacturers. They´re obviously going too fast for Microsoft to follow.

	29-07-2005 04:36									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Jesus, can't the idiots get anything right?

**** off, dickhead. I'm trying to help someone, and you come here, without any word of advice, calling me stupid. The Maxtor Big Drive Enabler just didn't work. I don't know why. I called a technician and he was clueless.

	29-07-2005 04:47									#28
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I think he's saying Microsoft = idiots, not you.

	29-07-2005 04:58									#29
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That's right nostromo...have a bit of common sense...

	29-07-2005 05:00									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison That's right nostromo...have a bit of common sense...

You should've called him stupid.