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I can't find the friggin' software I want. And the alternatives don't cut it--

1. iTunes, frankly, stinks when trying to listen to streamed internet radio--I'm wanting something more akin to Winamp, which feels smaller and more lightweight. I've tried Audion, but I don't like how it manages playlists. Any alternatives?

2. Video playback. I don't like how QuickTime requires that you buy the pro version for full-screening; and mplayer and vlc have issues--mplayer's simple and easy to use, but has no options to control, and vlc has plenty of options, but largely stinks in its flexibility. Alternatives?

3. I can't figure out how to make the Home and End keys work normally. And by normally, I mean just like how *nix and Windows does it--Home goes to the beginning of the line, and End goes to the end of the line. Help?

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General (Mac OS X 10.3.2)

1.

Pressing any key on the keyboard will wake the computer from sleep, but clicking the mouse button will not.
2. In Windows and in Mac OS pre-X, an ellipsis following the label for a button or menu item means further information is required to carry out the command implied by the label. In Mac OS X, however, an ellipsis means nothing in particular, and so does the lack of an ellipsis. (For anything you think it might mean, at least one of these is a counterexample: Open Location… in Safari; About in any application, Address Panel in Mail, and Downloads in Safari; the main Help menu item in any application.)
3.

The Application menu (which appears to be a dumping ground for menu items that should not exist) has a different width in every application. This means the File, Edit, and View menus are in a different position on the menu bar in every application, making them slower to get at.
4.

Some windows use a brushed metal appearance, while others do not. This distinction exists for no apparent reason.
5.

In the Finder, Safari, Mail, and the Help Viewer, instructions for using a search field are placed inside the field, disappearing when the field is focused. This slows you down by making you check whether the text needs deleting every time you use the field, and it also hides the instructions just when you need them most.
6.

Date and time entry fields in OS X are several hundred percent slower to use than the equivalent controls in Windows or Mac OS pre-X.
* The ↑ and ↓ keys cannot be used to increment and decrement values.
* The ← and → keys cannot be used to navigate between components of a date or time. Tab and Shift+Tab are used for this purpose, inconsistent with their use in all other controls in the OS.
* Mistyped values cannot be retyped without selecting or deleting the previous value first.
7.

Some listboxes (such as the Song list in iTunes, and the Buddy List in iChat) alternate blue and white highlighting to distinguish consecutive items, while others (such as the Source list in iTunes, and the List view in the Finder) do not. This variation exists for no apparent reason. To make things worse, Mail uses the same shade of blue by default to highlight message threads.
8.

Disclosure triangles always look unavailable. (Indeed, they are almost indistinguishable from the icon of an unavailable Forward button in Safari or the Finder.)
9.

Exceptions to the previous problem are the disclosure triangles used in Open and Save dialogs and in the Authenticate alert. These disclosure triangles have a different appearance from those in the rest of the OS, for no apparent reason.
10.

Pressing the Escape key would be a reliable method of cancelling any drag, except that it doesn’t work when dragging an icon out of the Dock.
11.

Dragging to the menu bar would be a reliable method of cancelling any drag, except that it doesn’t work when moving a window.
12.

Sheets move together with their parent window, which is good, but they cannot be moved independently of their parent window, which is bad. When asked if I wanted to save changes [sic] to a newly-created TextEdit document, I could not remember whether what I had started typing was important, and I could not move the sheet out of the way to look.
13.

Until you start dragging, resize handles and scrollbar thumbs give no indication of whether you clicked on them successfully or whether you missed.
14.

Any scrollbar, when scrolled as far as possible to the top or left, looks as if it could be scrolled three or four pixels further upward or leftward.
15.

The subtle ribbing within a scrollbar thumb stays in the same place (relative to the scrollbar as a whole) while the thumb is being dragged. This is subtly distracting because it does not make sense: the ribbing is not visible in the rest of the scrollbar trough, and therefore must be part of the thumb.
16.

It is easy for important controls — such as a window’s scrollbar buttons and resize handle — to become unclickable because they are stuck under the Dock. The Dock cannot be hidden temporarily, but even if it could, that would only be a workaround, not a solution. 2004-02-28: It has been pointed out to me that Command+Option+D will put the Dock into auto-hide mode, which is somewhat similar to hiding it temporarily. I hadn’t found this myself because it isn’t mentioned in the help topic Shortcuts for the Dock, or in the help topic Shortcuts for the system, or in the help topic Using the Dock, or in the help topic The Dock is in my way, and because the Dock submenu of the Apple menu had been removed by FruitMenu which I was using to fix the jumping-menus problem. Incidentally, I’d expect the need for a The Dock is in my way help topic to result in the Dock itself being fixed by the third annual update to the OS, but it hasn’t.
17.

In many applications (including iChat, Help Viewer, Mail, Preview, and Safari, but not iTunes), scrollbars in a background window will scroll in response to the same click used to bring the window frontwards (in Apple parlance, they allow click-through). This makes focusing a window without scrolling it frustratingly difficult, since the scrollbar trough is often a large fraction of the only visible edge of the window.

Finder (10.3)

18.

Adding unpredictability to the previous problem, a Finder window’s scrollbar correctly ignores click-through when it takes focus from another Finder window, but incorrectly allows click-through when it takes focus from a non-Finder window.
19.

The Finder presents a non-spatial interface by default. Those people most likely to need the simplicity and realism of a spatial interface are those least likely to realize it exists or how to achieve it.
20.

Even when the spatial mode is achieved, it fractures by allowing the same item to be visible in two places at once. This problem can be experienced by opening the Desktop folder, or by expanding the disclosure triangle in a list view for a folder that is already open in its own window.
21.

Normally, an alias to an item has the same icon as the original item. Unfortunately, there are some exceptions. These include (unless their icons have already been customized) the Applications folder, the Library folder, the System and System Folder folders, the Users folder, anyone’s home folder, their Desktop folder, their Documents folder, their Library folder, their Movies folder, their Music folder, their Pictures folder, and their Public folder. In other words, for all folders that have non-generic default icons, aliases to those folders fail to inherit the same icons.
22.

Unlike the Trash in Mac OS pre-X, and even the Recycle Bin in Windows, the Trash in Mac OS X has no idea where any of the items inside it came from. Only the most recently trashed item can be restored to its previous location (unless you remember the location and drag it there yourself), and even that can only be done (using the Undo command) if trashing that item was the most recent action performed in the Finder.
23.

Trying to open a file in the Trash from the Finder will, correctly, produce an error message (to prevent people from relying on the existence of a file that will disappear when the Trash is emptied). Dragging a document from the Trash to an application should result in the same error message, but it does not; the application will happily edit and save the document back to the Trash.
24.

All folder windows zoom out from their icon when opened, and zoom back into their icon when closed. All, that is, except for the Trash.
25.

An item’s color label highlights its text but not its icon. This allows a blue-labelled icon to look selected when it is not. It also causes unnecessary difficulty in finding a labelled item quickly, particularly when it is selected or when it is in Icon view.
26.

It is impossible to view, let alone modify, an item’s color label from its Info window.
27.

Disks cannot be given color labels, for no apparent reason.

Safari (1.2)

28.

Clicking once in the address field does not do what people want 99 percent of the time, which is selecting the address so it can be replaced by typing a new one. (This can be done without interfering with those who want to select only part of the address, as demonstrated by Firefox and by Internet Explorer for Mac.)
29.

Safari’s View menu gives greatest prominence to those items that will be used least often.
30.

The dates in Safari’s History menu do not follow the format you choose in the Formats tab of the International panel in System Preferences.
31.

Dragging a bookmark from Safari’s Bookmarks page to the Trash trashes the bookmark, as it should. Dragging a bookmark from Safari’s Bookmarks Bar to the Trash highlights the Trash, as if the bookmark will be trashed, but the trashing never happens.
32.

It is unnecessarily difficult to tell whether you successfully clicked on a link (or dragged a link to a window), or whether — as often happens with unsteady hands or dirty cybercafe mice — you just missed. The cursor does not change at all; nor is there an indeterminate progress indicator, as might be expected from software that has no idea when or whether a remote server will respond. The only feedback is a partial, non-animated filling in of the address field, looking almost indistinguishable from selected text in the field.
33.

The Show in Finder buttons in the Downloads window always look unavailable.
34.

When a link’s href attribute contains a stray space character, Safari will go to the intended page, but it will never mark the link as visited.
35.

Multi-line text fields use a proportional font rather than a fixed-width font.
36.

Safari does not support HTML 4’s label element, but allows it to be styled. Many misguided Web authors style label in various ways to indicate its clickability, making its unclickability confusing.
37.

When the currently selected option in a select element is too wide to fit in the option menu, it is truncated. The truncation should be indicated with an ellipsis, but it is not.

Mail (1.3.3)

38. The network activity window is called Activity Viewer in Safari, but just Activity in Mail. This distinction exists for no apparent reason.
39.

The Stop buttons in Mail’s Activity Viewer are over-large and garish, and have a different appearance from those in Safari’s Downloads window for no apparent reason.
40.

The default set of toolbar buttons in Mail’s Customize Toolbar dialog is not actually the default set. The true default set also includes the Junk button, at the opposite end of the toolbar from the Delete button. But in the junk filter’s Training mode Delete and Junk are used in tandem (first mark a message as junk, then delete it), while in Automatic mode they are close substitutes (Delete to delete a message, or Junk to delete it and future messages like it). Therefore they should be immediately next to each other by default.
41.

Mail does not allow plain text attachments to be saved, assuming instead that they are part of the message text.

iChat (2.0)

42.

iChat’s Buddy List window uses a mini-sized scrollbar, despite the rest of the controls in the window (and the scrollbar in instant message windows) being normal size.
43.

If an instant message window is as tall as possible, every time you type a space the text field scrolls back to the first line, hiding what you just typed.
44.

The Page Up, Page Down, Home, and End keys can be used to scroll through a Web page in Safari even when the address field is focused. The same should work in an iChat instant message window when the text field is focused, but they do not.

Help Viewer (2.0.4)

45.

The Back, Forward, and Home buttons in the Help Viewer have a slightly different appearance from those in Safari, for no apparent reason.
46.

The search field is the only usefully focusable control when the Help Viewer opens. (Focusing the content area is not useful when the Help Viewer opens, since the contents page for an application’s help should be — and usually is — too short to need scrolling.) Therefore the search field should be focused by default, but it is not.
47.

The Help Viewer often takes a second or more to perform an action. During this time, it never provides feedback that anything is happening.
48.

Unsuccessful search terms are not displayed in the Help Viewer’s No matching topics were found page. This, combined with the lack of in-progress feedback, makes it impossible to tell whether a second search has also been unsuccessful or whether it is merely taking a very long time.

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I can't find the friggin' software I want. And the alternatives don't cut it--

1. iTunes, frankly, stinks when trying to listen to streamed internet radio--I'm wanting something more akin to Winamp, which feels smaller and more lightweight. I've tried Audion, but I don't like how it manages playlists. Any alternatives?

2. Video playback. I don't like how QuickTime requires that you buy the pro version for full-screening; and mplayer and vlc have issues--mplayer's simple and easy to use, but has no options to control, and vlc has plenty of options, but largely stinks in its flexibility. Alternatives?

3. I can't figure out how to make the Home and End keys work normally. And by normally, I mean just like how *nix and Windows does it--Home goes to the beginning of the line, and End goes to the end of the line. Help?


1.) No WinAmp for Mac?

2.) How many options do you need for video playback?

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3 reasons I don't like Mac.

Too expensive.

Can't find the same amount of warez.

Not enouh games.

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Consoles are the way of the future as far as gaming is concerned.

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1.) No WinAmp for Mac?

No, Windows only.

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Oh. Never saw a need to use anything but WMP for listening to music; my experience with WinAmp ended 3 or 4 years ago.

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Consoles are the way of the future as far as gaming is concerned.


Not for the types of games I like. Besides, PCs will always be the most superior gaming platofrm, since they can be upgraded faster and to a machine far more powerful than any console. You buy a console and you're stuck with it until a new one comes out.

I can be a new graphics card every few months, if I have the money.

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You mean the kind that can be illegally downloaded?

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I actually buy all my games. Don't know why I do that, when I'm perfectly happy to pirate anything else. Maybe it's cuz I'm willing to wait a few years then buy them used at EB Games or in the discount bin at CompUSA. I do buy some games new, though, like EU II or Call of Duty.

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Maybe because you know deep down that pirating stuff cuts into profit, but whereas you are willing to sacrifice musicians to the slaughter, you need games to give meaning to life.

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I can be a new graphics card every few months, if I have the money.

You're forgetting the sad fact of lowest common denoninators that game developers look at. You may get a GeForce 7800 GTX today, but you won't find a game that will come close to pushing it to the limits.

Hell, the Xbox does a good job at DOOM3 and Half-Life 2, and that's basically a P3 733 and a GF4.

Don't underestimate the power of fixed, static hardware vs the abstracted PC hardware.

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Not for the types of games I like. Besides, PCs will always be the most superior gaming platofrm, since they can be upgraded faster and to a machine far more powerful than any console. You buy a console and you're stuck with it until a new one comes out.

I can be a new graphics card every few months, if I have the money.


A graphics card that costs the same price as an Xbox/Xbox360, but will be unable to provide you with better graphics because the games are tailored for one size fits all.

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You're forgetting the sad fact of lowest common denoninators that game developers look at. You may get a GeForce 7800 GTX today, but you won't find a game that will come close to pushing it to the limits.

Hell, the Xbox does a good job at DOOM3 and Half-Life 2, and that's basically a P3 733 and a GF4.

Don't underestimate the power of fixed, static hardware vs the abstracted PC hardware.


Conversely it's important not to underestimate the extent which we'll all be screwed once one of the platform manufacturers manages to get enough control of the gaming market. Take a look at Gameboy game cartridges with their "tamper seal", proprietary opening tool and soldered on batteries (planned obsolescence at its finest!) to go with their hefty price tags.

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A graphics card that costs the same price as an Xbox/Xbox360, but will be unable to provide you with better graphics because the games are tailored for one size fits all.


That assumes you're on the bleeding edge, instead of a step or two back. Frequently new games push the edge in graphics, and you need the best cards to really experience all the happiness. If you don't have a great graphics card, you have to turn off various graphics features, and it just doesn't look as pretty.

With a console, you're locked in for years, unless you know how to hack your X-box (which I'm sure people do).

Anyway, I've been hearing how consoles were going to kill PCs for a decade now. I'm still waiting.

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Will Civ 4 come out on the Xbox 360 or PS3? No? I'll stick with the PC then, thanks.

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1.) No WinAmp for Mac?


MacAmp?

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Will Civ 4 come out on the Xbox 360 or PS3? No? I'll stick with the PC then, thanks.


This is true, it will probably not be this generation when RPGs/RTS/TBS are fully integrated into the console world, although the steps are being made.

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PC vs Console is so 1998. Nowadays most people have both don't they?

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1.) No WinAmp for Mac?

2.) How many options do you need for video playback?


1. I can't find anything like WinAmp for the Mac, and it looks like MacAmp hasn't been in active development for years.

2. I just want something simple-yet-feature filled like bsplayer.

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3. I still can't get the damn Home and End keys to work normal.

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1. Because I have two PCs and see no reason for a third computer....

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PC vs Console is so 1998. Nowadays most people have both don't they?


Yes, but I don't expect my computer to play anything like Doom3 or other graphics-intensive games that my Xbox can.

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Q Cubed, I think you have to download a 3rd party software to change the way the keys work. Not sure what its called. My uncle was/is a Mac-Fan, of course, during his era, the Mac was in, but just a few years ago he finally admitted that the Mac is falling short of Windows and the PC.


PC vs Console: So I was playing GTA:SA on my PC lastnight. I just did the jetpack mission (where you have to get the green goo on the train). Now, when I did this on the PS2, there was some trickery to it, but thats the way it was meant to be. But when I played that mission on the PC, it was so freaking easy. The mouse and keyboard cannot be beaten by a controller (maybe in the future?).

I'd love to see a video of someone playing a game of GTA:SA with a controller vs'ing a guy playing with a mouse and keyboard.

Consoles are just small entertainment machines, a lot like a TV, they entertain you, but you can't do much else with it.

When GTA:SA came out on PS2, people played it and that was it, you couldn't do anything else with it.

When GTA:SA came out on the PC, a few weeks after release, a team started turning it into a multiplayer game.

With a PC, I can play a game and work on something and play music and watch a movie all at the same time if I wanted to.

So am I going to waste my money on a box that can't do half the stuff a PC can? The PC wiped out the TV, I don't watch TV anymore, its boring and useless; and now people are trying to convince me that consoles are the next big thing?

If PC's never existed, and PS2 and Xbox came out after the Amiga 500. and a company came out and said "We have built this computer that can play all your games, and play movies, music, surf the internet, type up documents, modify your games, change the hardware to your delight, etc etc. Then I'd be thinking: Screw the console!

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Consoles are the way of the future as far as gaming is concerned.




wake me when there's a decent game on a console (that's not also on a PC)

While there are many decent games on a PC that are not on a console.

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wake me when there's a decent game on a console (that's not also on a PC)

While there are many decent games on a PC that are not on a console.


That's like saying "wake me when there's a decent movie on DVD thats not also on a VHS."

A 299$ console will provide you the level of gaming as far as graphics, multiplayer, features go that can only be attained by a 1000$+ PC.

 
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