06-08-2005 01:21									#31
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Mrs. Tubes was an honorable mention Defensive Back, however..........



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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat I've seen some of these parents too - it's pretty sick how they press their children to do something they don't want. Maybe it's their own broken dreams they are trying to live out through their children - not good

Some parents do go to far, true.

But a parent "pressing a child to do something they don't want ??"

Do you mean like

go to bed
eat vegetables
not run in front of traffic
be active

etc etc. parents "make" kids do all sorts of things. My parents "made " me , play ice hockey, take piano lessons and join Boy Scouts to name three. In each case they said I "had to" try it for a year and if I didn't like it, I could quit. It had nothing to do with broken dreams or any of that crap-- My parents just didn't want me to be a pathetic couch potato sitting at home

My son is 2 -- we already MAKE HIM do all sorts of things like gymboree and music class. he seems to like it and even if he didn't, we would probably take him several times to make sure. When he is older, I will take him to some sports-- I'll probably give him a choice and frankly I don't care if he does rugby or rythmic gymnastics, as long as he DOES something.

	06-08-2005 01:48									#33
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If this is the high school kid, no one can make him play. If he has guts enough to stand up to his dad and tell the coach he quits , thats the end of this.

But did he say he wanted to play in the first place. Since I know many parents bemoan their children that take something up, have their parents outfit them at great expense and then want to quit. I think there are valuable lessons for children in learning the idea that once you take on a commitment, you are obligated to see it through.

The part I'm not getting is that this boy is big and would likely be good at football. Why isn't he like most boys and at the very least thinking he can milk this for some sexual encounters with cheerleaders. Isn't this Texas where the average player is a stud and the stars are considered gods

	06-08-2005 01:56									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Some parents do go to far, true. But a parent "pressing a child to do something they don't want ??" Do you mean like go to bed eat vegetables not run in front of traffic be active etc etc. parents "make" kids do all sorts of things. My parents "made " me , play ice hockey, take piano lessons and join Boy Scouts to name three. In each case they said I "had to" try it for a year and if I didn't like it, I could quit. It had nothing to do with broken dreams or any of that crap-- My parents just didn't want me to be a pathetic couch potato sitting at home My son is 2 -- we already MAKE HIM do all sorts of things like gymboree and music class. he seems to like it and even if he didn't, we would probably take him several times to make sure. When he is older, I will take him to some sports-- I'll probably give him a choice and frankly I don't care if he does rugby or rythmic gymnastics, as long as he DOES something.

You surely has misunderstood me I don't mind that parents says "try this or try that and quit if you don't like it" - what I mind is those parents that says "when I was young I was just soo good, but it was hard times so I had to drop it - now, my child has my genes and shall accomplish what was not possible for me". Such parents exist, I have seen several of them and I don't like it.

Somehow I guess that your boy will have a good childhood

	06-08-2005 01:57									#35
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Dammit. Forgot the veggie part - that is just common sense

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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison I always hated sports at school as a kid and no amount of parental 'footstomping' was ever going to change my mind, and never did...

Thats probably unfortunate. Some more physically active hobbies are just plain good for you. Personally I like the idea of encouraging activity rather than forcing it. Encouragement might come in the form of a parent playing with the child (Bicycling, street hockey, table tennis, tossing a softball) or in discouraging other activities (limiting TV or computer time)

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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat You surely has misunderstood me I don't mind that parents says "try this or try that and quit if you don't like it" -

But the quitting CAN'T be immediate or you are raising a child that learns to quit when things are tough. A new sport/activity can be difficult or frustating and a fair trial involves getting past those most difficult times to see if they enjoy the sport in its fun parts. I imagine football practice is not as much fun as the games and teh early practices are probably a lot of hard conditioning drills.

quote: Originally posted by BlackCat what I mind is those parents that says "when I was young I was just soo good, but it was hard times so I had to drop it - now, my child has my genes and shall accomplish what was not possible for me". Such parents exist, I have seen several of them and I don't like it.

and I agree completely on that point. I played hockey in Canada and pretty much everything true of football in Texas is also true of hockey in Canada. I saw lots of crazy hockey parents but the majority were pretty normal and just wanted their kids to have fun

quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Somehow I guess that your boy will have a good childhood

All we can do is try our best. I really have no clue but we are adopting the things we saw that worked best from our own parents. Every day is a learning experience. So far, we have noticed he loves running and jumping ( like most children) but also seems to like music more than most toddlers (so he goes to music class)

Like I say, I have no clue, but if poly survives that long, I'll let you know how it turns out-- in 20 years or so

	06-08-2005 02:18									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Mrs tubes If this is the high school kid, no one can make him play. If he has guts enough to stand up to his dad and tell the coach he quits , thats the end of this. But did he say he wanted to play in the first place. Since I know many parents bemoan their children that take something up, have their parents outfit them at great expense and then want to quit. I think there are valuable lessons for children in learning the idea that once you take on a commitment, you are obligated to see it through. The part I'm not getting is that this boy is big and would likely be good at football. Why isn't he like most boys and at the very least thinking he can milk this for some sexual encounters with cheerleaders. Isn't this Texas where the average player is a stud and the stars are considered gods

I Agree with you i told him he made the commitment and money has been spent. My concern is that he did so cause his dad told him a bunch of stuff like hed be doing a lot of yard work and house cleaning if he didnt do this. This is the hi school kid and I told him that hey dude you might like the games and stuff, thing is he isnt a stupid kid. He knows that this is fresh man football team and that nobody gives a hoot bout freshman football. he is only a 9th grader i think my ex is hoping he is so good they bump him to varsity.

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On another note he likes to play the sport he does real good when a group gets together playing around. I think its the practice and structure that is the problem and in which case if i jump in and save him im not doing him any good.

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quote: Originally posted by Flubber But the quitting CAN'T be immediate or you are raising a child that learns to quit when things are tough. Like I say, I have no clue, but if poly survives that long, I'll let you know how it turns out-- in 20 years or so

I think that we agree on all points - What I meant was try a season or two and if it still doesn't ring a bell, then quit , not quit because it's difficult.

About poly's existence - well, I have three PC's that can run smac/x and I'm gonna nurse them carefully, so yes, Poly still have a chance in twenty years

Remember that you superconsumers - always protect your HW that can run SMAC/X !!! Don't trow out your old 233 MHz win 95 - you'll regret it.

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I don't get why parents do crap like this. I'm willing to think it is part of our compitition-obsessed culture, with parents subcounciously using thier kids as pawns to show how good parents they are. In the average American town, athletes are held in higher prestige than kids that are smart students. I remeber seeing the movie Friday Night Lights, a movie about a high school footbal team in Texas. In one of the scenes a guy is listening to a talk radio show where a caller is suggesting sacrificing educational money to increase funding for the football team. That scene left me absolutely stunned and enraged at the same time.

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski On another note he likes to play the sport he does real good when a group gets together playing around. I think its the practice and structure that is the problem and in which case if i jump in and save him im not doing him any good.

Ehrm, if you are trying to be a chicken hen mother (probably not understandable, but in danish we have word called such really rough translated ), then get out of it - it's not your turf despites you only wan't to protect your little child.

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski hey japher i my self am a cheerleader dropout I am just surprised at the parental force and stuff when it comes to this sports thing

I think it comes from parents want their kids to make up for their shortcomings, or some pscho babble like that.

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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Ehrm, if you are trying to be a chicken hen mother (probably not understandable, but in danish we have word called such really rough translated ), then get out of it - it's not your turf despites you only wan't to protect your little child.

In the states it's simply "mother hen".

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The good news is that your son will become a communist because he was forced into football.

Football

Communism

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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious The good news is that your son will become a communist because he was forced into football.

Only if he suffers a brain injury that makes him unable to reason .

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski In the states it's simply "mother hen". ACK!

Thanks, hope you don't have to suffer too much

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Tough spot is how to convince a sports luney to get the freaking picture.

Buy a club and practice your swing for next year's harp seal hunt.

	06-08-2005 05:42									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski @Che I agree I do not want to start a fight with the family. My ex explained that he has already shelled out 100.00 for shoes and equipment he explained that was the reason he is making him play. He told me that if the kid dont like it after one season he leave him alone. I figured that was a good trade unless my son is very very unhappy.

Well in that case, I can see your ex's point and agree with it. It's only a few months and your son needs to learn to keep his promises.

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quote: Originally posted by Thoth Buy a club and practice your swing for next year's harp seal hunt.

The quote is funny but i am afraid i dont know how to swing at a seal

	06-08-2005 06:21									#51
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That's why you need practice.

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NYE is right, we can't have untrained people taking part in the seal hunt. It would be cruel. You must practice dilligently or you won't be allowed to particpate in the hunt.

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Oh ok im sorry i wont be able to do this hunt as for we dont have seals down here except the ones that are maybe in the navy or at seaworld and i think if i swung a club at either or, id be arrested or killed

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski On another note he likes to play the sport he does real good when a group gets together playing around. I think its the practice and structure that is the problem and in which case if i jump in and save him im not doing him any good.

Now that I think about it more... This is about when twoadays/threeadays start. He's wimping out already?

	06-08-2005 11:42									#56
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Move.

While you can.

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quote: Originally posted by DanS Now that I think about it more... This is about when twoadays/threeadays start. He's wimping out already?

That is exactly what my ex said to me. I think which is why i agreed to let him handle the situation.
Somebody a bit bsck mentioned the movie friday night lights. I havent seen the movie but had to read the book for a class a few years back I couldnt believe that was a true story. Those adults go beyond obssevive and crazy

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski That is exactly what my ex said to me. I think which is why i agreed to let him handle the situation. Somebody a bit bsck mentioned the movie friday night lights. I havent seen the movie but had to read the book for a class a few years back I couldnt believe that was a true story. Those adults go beyond obssevive and crazy

Kinda funny that a book about Texas football is required reading in a Texas school.

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Don't you know that if Junior doesn't play hockey (subsitute N.A. football, soccer, Finnish reindeer castration, or whatever your countries most popular team sport is) he'll turn out gay?

Yes I suffered through 2 years of hockey, enough to get one of those cool personalized hockey cards with your picture on it. Mostly hated it. Defence.

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If your son is made to play American football, he'll turn gay and molest small animals.