05-08-2005 03:51									#1
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There may have been a thread about this before, and most know that I am to lazy to search for it so I am gonna ask this.
Just this Past week my two Boys just started football parctice. One In hi school and the other pop warner. Well I have been to both practices, and the parents at the younger kids practice shocked the hell out of me. These crazy ladies were jumping up and yelling at these kids like the were possesed. Some of these kids were like 4 and 5 years old playing flag football. I thought to myself good lord what the hell is wrong with these folks? This instance was just the first two days of practice. Ok now to the reason for this thread. I think my ex might be one of these lunatics. My oldest agreed to play but after 2 weeks of practice he doesnt really like it. My ex has stomped his feet in the ground and said that he is going to play. I calmly told my ex if he didnt want to play why force him then he accused me of babying the kid. So in my state of WTF i told him fine handle it dont ask me for advice on the issue.
Anyone with stories relating to this please offer advice you dont have to have the kids, but may have been one or know someone like this.

	05-08-2005 03:54									#2
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I always hated sports at school as a kid and no amount of parental 'footstomping' was ever going to change my mind, and never did...

	05-08-2005 04:05									#3
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Tell your ex to shove the football up his arse if he feels that strongly about it. Your son doesn't want to play football so he shouldn't be forced to. Don't defer the matter over to your ex, he'll just screw your son up. Daddy can relive his glory days vicariously through someone else's kid.

	05-08-2005 04:06									#4
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I wouldn't either - I remember how much I hated that sh*t at school too...I was always an academically minded kid, never a sports kid.

	05-08-2005 04:17									#5
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My son is built like a player 6'3 245lbs but that doesnt make him a jock. He enjoys computers and playing with the guitar. Hes more on the arts side. Im trying to come up with a tactful way to go about this though most of me would love to tell him to shove it.

	05-08-2005 04:18									#6
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What really shocks me is that parents force these kids to do this. And then yell and scream when they arent any good at it. I dont get it

	05-08-2005 04:19									#7
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Parents are stupid

	05-08-2005 04:40									#8
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I've seen some of these parents too - it's pretty sick how they press their children to do something they don't want. Maybe it's their own broken dreams they are trying to live out through their children - not good

Luckily, my parents didn't mess with my sports witch may be the reason I ended up with a pretty weired mix : rowing, dance (std/latin) and sailing

	05-08-2005 05:15									#9
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Well I am on my kiddos side cause when i was a kid my mom made me do the cheerleading thing for pop warner, Come on im like 5'11" I have been a tall child all my life can you imagine me as a pop warner cheerleader bing 7 and already as tall as the coach?? I did quit and chose my sports when i got older. I did volleyball and soccer. Tough spot is how to convince a sports luney to get the freaking picture.

	05-08-2005 05:22									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski There may have been a thread about this before, and most know that I am to lazy to search for it so I am gonna ask this. Just this Past week my two Boys just started football parctice. One In hi school and the other pop warner. Well I have been to both practices, and the parents at the younger kids practice shocked the hell out of me. These crazy ladies were jumping up and yelling at these kids like the were possesed. Some of these kids were like 4 and 5 years old playing flag football. I thought to myself good lord what the hell is wrong with these folks? This instance was just the first two days of practice. Ok now to the reason for this thread. I think my ex might be one of these lunatics. My oldest agreed to play but after 2 weeks of practice he doesnt really like it. My ex has stomped his feet in the ground and said that he is going to play. I calmly told my ex if he didnt want to play why force him then he accused me of babying the kid. So in my state of WTF i told him fine handle it dont ask me for advice on the issue. Anyone with stories relating to this please offer advice you dont have to have the kids, but may have been one or know someone like this.

High school football in Texas is unfortunately above the law and answerable only to God, leading to a skewed, warped reality as far as allocation of funding goes, as well as a generally poor academic experience for high school students.

Some parents are obsessive about their child making straight A's; others want their child to perform at Carnegie Hall before 12, and others still want their child to play football, no matter what. Your ex has no right to push your son into doing an extracurricular activity like football if he doesn't want to: furthermore, if your son IS forced onto the team, he could face even more problems from the team and coach if he isn't motivated to go through their bullshit traditions and practices. No need to force your son to face the ire of redneck jocks. Let him focus on the talents he has, that he likes, which will in the end be far more productive, and useful.

And one final rant against HS football: coaches don't give a **** about the health or well-being of their players. Studies have shown that the heavy lifting and exercise that teenage football players are forced to do have a negative impact on their body, as the muscles, tendons, etc are still developing.

	05-08-2005 05:35									#11
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Well, even sports luneys are some kind of humans, and if they are able to make it fun for their children, I don't mind.

I have been dancing since I was six and is probalbly above average (practice helps ), but I have seen parents go crazy because their children wasn't considered good enough to participate in special events.

5'11'' is that something like 1.77 meters ? That is close to my preferred high of a dance partner

	05-08-2005 18:30									#12
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It really depends on your kid. If he just doesn't like it, there's probably not any sense in starting a family fight. If he really hates it, you gotta stand up for him, though I'm not really sure what you can do.

	05-08-2005 19:02									#13
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A kid that doesn't play football is not worth feeding.

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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Well, even sports luneys are some kind of humans, and if they are able to make it fun for their children, I don't mind. I have been dancing since I was six and is probalbly above average (practice helps ), but I have seen parents go crazy because their children wasn't considered good enough to participate in special events. 5'11'' is that something like 1.77 meters ? That is close to my preferred high of a dance partner

I think so but Im not sure i dont measure in meters and stuff. Friend of mine said I am 1.8 meters tall.

@Che I agree I do not want to start a fight with the family. My ex explained that he has already shelled out 100.00 for shoes and equipment he explained that was the reason he is making him play. He told me that if the kid dont like it after one season he leave him alone. I figured that was a good trade unless my son is very very unhappy.

	05-08-2005 23:31									#15
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quote: High school football in Texas is unfortunately above the law and answerable only to God, leading to a skewed, warped reality as far as allocation of funding goes, as well as a generally poor academic experience for high school students.

I've heard it's that bad. I would say in AR it's huge but somehow sports aren't above the law here.My state senator suggested eliminating PE to open up more time for all the other subjects, and he will definitely get reelected (dunno if his suggestion ever became law or not, though.) A couple years ago we passed a property tax increase for the school district, and the first revenue went into building a new stadium (capacity 4-5,000 I think?), "multi purpose building" (an indoors astroturf field), a new field house, new baseball fields, etc. but also a lot of the money went to real education and now that all that's been paid a lot more of the revenue is going to education, probably no new facilities for athletics for a very very long time...

	05-08-2005 23:34									#16
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Ih HS, I hated football because I didn't like any of the other guys on the team (stupid jocks). But I played anyway because I was good, and I thought that not playing was selfish (plus I knew that my family would be proud (note that they did NOT force me) ). I could (and did) help the team do good and win games. At the end, I am glad that I played because it is fun to look back at old tapes and such.

If your son is good (and by the description of him, he probably is), perhaps you could reason with him. (But by no means should you force him)

	05-08-2005 23:53									#17
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I told my son to do his best to fulfill his promise to his dad. I have this errie feeling he is going to try and flunk school to get out of football. and that is not a good thing since he was one of the few that got accepted to the digital campus where the are issued laptops and do their work on them. I hope I am wrong

	05-08-2005 23:57									#18
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oh and yesterday at my younger sons practice. This crazy lady jumped out of her chair grabbed her kid by the arm and screamed in his face for not pulling the other kids flag. Im sitting there saying wtf is this lunatic doing. The kid was no more then 4 years old. I didnt say a word to her but said out loud to the man next to me that gee i thought this was a kids pop warner not the nfl and supposed to be fun which garnered me a nice dirty look

	05-08-2005 23:57									#19
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Just let your kid do what he wants to do and stand by his decision. Football is meant to be enjoyed, so if your kid doesn't enjoy it, then it's a pretty pointless exercise. I can remember in 5th grade, I dreaded football practice because of the hitting and quit the team.

If in the future he wants to pick it back up, then support that too. I picked it back up in the 8th grade and enjoyed it a lot, especially the hitting. Go figure.

	05-08-2005 23:58									#20
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Your EX?

	06-08-2005 00:01									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthy Your EX?

Yes my Ex husband father to all three of my children. Tubers is my second husband and we share no biological children

	06-08-2005 00:04									#22
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Good. Otherwise we would have had to choose. And guess what, he's been here longer.

	06-08-2005 00:24									#23
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So why aren't you still married to this guy?

Just tell the coach and several of the players that your son doesn't want to play football and is only playing because his dad is making him. Your problem will be solved in no time.

5' 11" is 1.8 meters, yes.

Those of you outside the U.S. should note that we're talking American football here, not "soccer."

	06-08-2005 00:42									#24
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well, the mrs. knows where I stand, and I think she should trust her instincts.

	06-08-2005 00:44									#25
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quote: Originally posted by debeest Just tell the coach and several of the players that your son doesn't want to play football and is only playing because his dad is making him.

Not bad. I'd say that's worth a try.

	06-08-2005 00:44									#26
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yes we are talking bout american football but some how i think that these lunatic parents are in every sport like soccer and baseball and such

Im not married to him anymore for many reasons but one is that he is a non bending person.

I am not sure but if tuber and i were to divorce not that we are, I am sure hed let you know that I am no longer mrs tuber

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I dont think the telling the coaches is gonna work he already tried it with the trainers. He told them he just had surgery on his foot and doesnt think that the dr will let him play. This kid aint stupid . Well the surgery was back in april the trainers called the dr and the dr released him to play

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In a way, it's not your deal. Your son is the one who needs to tell his dad to stuff it.

	06-08-2005 01:04									#29
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psst.. Mrs. Tubers, I hate to brake it to you, but you live in Texas. Forcing boys to play football is not only a right, gaurenteed by law, but it is also a commandment, ordained by god almighty!

Thou shalt not refuse to play football or be a cheerleader!

	06-08-2005 01:19									#30
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hey japher i my self am a cheerleader dropout
I am just surprised at the parental force and stuff when it comes to this sports thing