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SlowwHand
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of The Cooler
Sep 1999
time: 23:37
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I know, I know. You don't want to know.
Like that ostrich approach, head buried in sand.
If nothing else, this gives you time to whine in advance about Bush and Blair, because Iran is about to get their sh1t kicked.
Might ought to pay attention. This isn't just going to go away, and it will affect all.
Try being something besides reactionary for a change.
Maybe if the Ayatollah were gay; or was trying to decide what kind of beans he preferred, it would get your attention and concern. 
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer
20 minutes ago
TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran resumed uranium conversion activities at its Isfahan nuclear facility Monday, a step that Europeans and the United States warned would prompt them to seek U.N. sanctions against Tehran.
Work resumed at the conversion facility quickly after inspectors from the U.N. nuclear watchdog finished installing surveillance equipment there and seals on equipment were removed.
The move came a day before the
International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, is to hold an emergency meeting at which it could consider referring Tehran to the
U.N. Security Council, which could impose sanctions. Germany, France and the U.S. have said they would likely recommend doing so if work at Isfahan resumes.
Iran had suspended work at the plant and its other nuclear facilities in November to avoid sanctions and as a gesture in negotiations with the Europeans.
The resumption escalates a confrontation between Iran and the West over its nuclear program, which the Europeans have been trying to persuade the Iranians to sharply limit.
But Iran on Saturday rejected European proposals for it to curtail the program in return for economic incentives.
Germany, France and the United States have said that if Iran restarts work in Isfahan, they would seek to have Tehran referred to the U.N. Security Council, which could impose economic sanctions.
The United States accuses Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, while Iran insists its program aims only to produce electricity.
Iran also has insisted it has the right to develop the entire fuel cycle — from raw uranium to the fuel for a reactor. Europe fears that if Iran can develop fuel on its own, it also will secretly produce material for a bomb.
The conversion facility, 10 miles southeast of the historical city of Isfahan, carried out an early stage of the fuel cycle, turning raw uranium, known as yellowcake, into gas, the feedstock for enrichment.
"The uranium conversion facility restarted its work a few minutes ago," the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported Monday.
In the next stage of the process — which Iran has said it will not resume for the time being — the gas is fed in centrifuges for enrichment. Uranium enriched to a low level is used to produce nuclear fuel and further enrichment makes it suitable for use in atomic bomb.
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:37
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Last edited by Ecthy on 08-08-2005 at 18:50
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:37
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UN sanctions aren't going to happen, not ones that matter- China especially won;t approve anything harsh, given their increasing investments in Iran and their need for oil. Russia would most likely also oppose any serious sanctions.
Maybe the EU can push its own sanctions, but that won't stop the Iranians from enriching Uranium.
Maybe the hawks in the Bush admin. are stupid enough to push for airstrikes, but they won;t stop Iran, and Iran can make our lives in Iraq MUCH MUCH worse if they really want to.
At the end thought the US and the Europeans have little ground to stand on- if they think the Iranians have been violating the IAEA regulations, they should have gone to the Sec Council long ago (to have nothing happen), but the fact is Iran has every legal right to enrich uranium for a local peaceful nuclear program. And who gave them this right? The nuclear powers as part of their failed attempt to monopolize nuclear weapons.
In the end, if the people who have nukes now are unwilling to give them up, then its beyond stupi to expect other states not to try or succeed in getting their hands on them, not as long as the notion of state sovereignty remains.
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:37
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I'm serious. There can be no invasion. We need to stop that action. Israel or the US have to do it.
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Ramo
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Austin, Texas, USA
Oct 1999
time: 23:37
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quote:
Maybe the hawks in the Bush admin. are stupid enough to push for airstrikes, but they won;t stop Iran, and Iran can make our lives in Iraq MUCH MUCH worse if they really want to. |
Yep, the Iranians are being relatively cooperative on Iraq. They could really **** us up, if they so choose. And the Iranians themselves would probably be a pretty minor problem, compared to the upheaval such acts would cause among actual (Shia) Iraqis (or among their pro-Iranian gov't, for that matter). All in all, a retarded policy, which is why I wouldn't count it out by this gov't. Indeed, there was a Sy Hersh article a while back suggesting that such a thing may very well happen.
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lightblue
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L'Boro, UK
Oct 2001
time: 05:37
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I think the more likely action would be an Israeli strike on the nuclear facility with tacit, non-explicit consent of the US. Israel are one of the main potential losers if an Islamic state acquires nuclear weapons, and they have demonstrated the willingness to perform strikes on foreign soil before.
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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:37
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quote:
Originally posted by lord of the mark
does Iran currently even have any nuclear powered electric generating facilities for which they require fuel? Or are they just being forward thinking? |
A nuclear reactor is being built,, so yes, they will have uses for the fuel-but this is not even making fuel, this is creting the gas, that THEN is put through centerfuges to get enriched uranium.
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And havent the EU3 offered them secure arrangements for getting fuel? Which they have rejected? Makes it pretty clear that they are seeking weapons, which does violate the NPT. As the EU3 seems ready to conclude.
If the EU3 doesnt go to the UNSC for sanctions, their actions over the past couple of years look pretty foolish. If they DO go to the UNSC, it will be upto the Russians to decide to veto or not. If the Russians DO veto, that will NOT help the French-German-Russian "entente" OTOH if the Russians DONT veto, then its up to China, and they have been pretty reluctant in the past to cast their veto alone. |
The Europeans wanted them to abandon their own enrichment program- why should any soverign state do so? Hey, it wasn;t the Iranians that first made the ME a non-nuclear free zone.
And why the hell would the Russians back the EU-US plans? They are the ones helping Iran with its reactor, and the US has been on thier case lately-not like they care if Iran really goes nuclear.
In the end though Iran has every right to refine all the damn uranium they want. They obviously have broken IAEA regulations in the past-so let them be taken to the UN council over that- but its the nuclear powers that set up the NPT cartel- too bad its falling apart on them.
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Flip McWho
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New Zealand
May 2002
time: 17:37
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How come Iran aren't allowed to do their business and get nuclear power?
What happened to innocent till proven guilty?
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mrmitchell
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because Iran is about to get their sh1t kicked. |
by who???
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