11-08-2005 19:08									#121
	Inner City Schools Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

The real problem with inner city schools is not with the teachers. The main problem isn't even with the school itself. The main problem is with the home environment of the students. Many of them receive little encouragement from their parents to do well at school and face a general level of neglect. The next biggest problem is that inner city school facilities are usually worse (old outdated things, stuff in disrepair, not enough stuff, etc.). The third problem I have seen is that the food in inner city schools is usually worse too. It is hard to concentrate when your stomach doesn't feel that great or when you have the jitters from a big sugar spike (from sugar and too many refined carbs) in your blood stream. In such an environment, I have seen superior teachers produce inferior results. In addition, I have seen superior teachers become discouraged and leave for better environments.

	11-08-2005 19:18									#122
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quote: Originally posted by pchang In addition, I have seen superior teachers become discouraged and leave for better environments.

Well I left because I wasn't getting the results that I wanted and I just wasn't suited for the work, but there are a lot of teachers at that school who do get good results and are able to perform well under those conditions. Some teachers teach to make a difference in kids lives and they know that they can make the biggest difference in inner city schools and so that's where they teach. Those are the best teachers.

	11-08-2005 19:52									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui How by government mandating it?

Sure. Say, "No employee in a chartered corporation may earn more than twenty times more than any other employee of same chartered corporation" or something like but in legalese.

quote: Of course that doesn't stifle innovation or anything;

Lessee... Is it a paycut for engineers? No. Is it a paycut for research scientists? No. Is it paycut for artists or writers? No. What sort of innovation are we talking about here anyways?

quote: but of course, getting you to see the facts Sava would be harder than getting Michael Moore into a 30 inch waistband jeans.

Interpreting that metaphor in a diplomatic manner is harder than getting 30 inch waistband pants to not fall off Coulter.

quote: In every single economic boom, the difference between rich and poor gets bigger,

When does it get smaller? It's not known for shrinking in economic busts either.

quote: poor get richer (and richer they do get).

Not lately.

quote: What, you think that IBM, Apple, and other companies that created computers in the early days weren't motivated by insane profits?

Steve Wozniak, the genius behind Apple I and II, wasn't. He did for the love of technology.

Paul Allen, the genius behind Microsoft BASIC, wasn't. He did it for the love of technology.

quote: You think Steve Jobs took a pittance and gave most of the money to his 90 hour a week workers?

"Jobs worked at Apple for several years with an annual salary of $1, and this earned him a listing in Guinness World Records as the "Lowest Paid Chief Executive Officer". At the 2001 keynote speech of Macworld Expo in San Francisco, the company dropped the "interim" from his title. His current salary at Apple officially remains $1 per year, although he has traditionally been the recipient of a number of lucrative "executive gifts" from the board, including a $90 million jet in 1999, and just under 30 million shares of restricted stock in 2000-2002."

	11-08-2005 20:53									#124
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Steve Jobs (due to him being a founder) always had a huge amount of shares in Apple. Thus, the $1 a year salary was largely symbolic because he was making plenty of money from the company stock.

	11-08-2005 21:04									#125
	Re: Re: Re: On the other hand... Suffering from ads?

quote: Originally posted by pchang In many cases, it comes down to who you know and luck.

I can believe this . I got a job offer the other day because I met a person when I went out for beers. Its irrelevant since I'm not taking it but it just goes to show how fickle some opportunities can be.

quote: Originally posted by pchang In many cases, it comes down to who you know and luck. In addition, an inordinate amount of CEOs are over 6 feet tall. For some reason, tall people get looked on as leaders more than shorter people. I am only 5 foot 10 inches tall.

I've noticed this and I believe Dilbert covered it . The custodial staff "replant" larger employess into larger offices.

I believe that attractiveness plays a part as well and a disproprtionate number of attractive people get promoted (I KNOW there are many exceptions)

	12-08-2005 07:23									#126
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quote: Originally posted by pchang The real problem with inner city schools is not with the teachers. The main problem isn't even with the school itself. The main problem is with the home environment of the students. Many of them receive little encouragement from their parents to do well at school and face a general level of neglect. The next biggest problem is that inner city school facilities are usually worse (old outdated things, stuff in disrepair, not enough stuff, etc.). The third problem I have seen is that the food in inner city schools is usually worse too. It is hard to concentrate when your stomach doesn't feel that great or when you have the jitters from a big sugar spike (from sugar and too many refined carbs) in your blood stream. In such an environment, I have seen superior teachers produce inferior results. In addition, I have seen superior teachers become discouraged and leave for better environments.

This is a solid analysis.

Blaming teachers is never the answer and far off the mark. I'd like to see those that blame teachers walk a mile in their shoes.

One more issue is that many schools get their revenue tied to local property taxes. This means that the richer suburbs get the better facilities because they have more money to spend.

I think that this should be eliminated and that all schools get a fair share. This is simply punishing poor kids for being poor.

	12-08-2005 09:30									#127
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