20-08-2005 20:35									#1
	What will you sacrifice when you get Civ4? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Seriously. Anyone who is reading this is not a casual gamer. You will probably spend hours upon hours with it, especially during this first month you have it. I think 20 hours\week is a conservative estimate.

What will be the area in your life most affected negatively by your Civ4 obsession? Studies, girlfriend, wife, family, job? And if you fastforward to 5 years from now, picture yourself looking back on the time you spent with Civ4. How does that feel?

	20-08-2005 21:51									#2
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Damn. I must have struck a nerve with the community. I thought there would at least be some flames..

But it is something worth thinking about, eh?

I ask this question as someone who has spent a huge portion of my life playing civ series.. time that i wish i could get back. I'm not saying that i didnt get some pleasure out of it. But i'm only now realizing that time is the most precious resource anyone can have. How you prioritize your time and spend it is the most important decision you make in your life. There have been many long stretches of time where playing civ was my #1 priority. But when you look at it objectively, it should have been something like #223 on the list of important things to do..

Ok, now I'll wait for this thread to get closed. Or at least moved to OT (but it really belongs here) .

Peace.

	20-08-2005 21:53									#3
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LOL

That's actually a scary thought. I probably will be sacraficing procrastination. I put things off untill the last minute anyways so I probably will just spend my time avoiding homework by playing Civ. Other than that everything else should balance out.

5 years from now I will be telling myself that if I could work and go to school full time and still manage to play civ 20 hrs a week then I can certainly do the same for CivV.

	20-08-2005 22:53									#4
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I will sacrifice 10 goats to the great god Sid and his demi-gods Soren and Jeff.

	20-08-2005 23:38									#5
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social life in all likelyhood

it'll be all sleep, school, civ, and a night or 2 a week for the girlfriend, and im not sure about that last one.

	20-08-2005 23:51									#6
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Sleep, definitely. And quite some time.

But perhaps Murphy will have mercy upon me and I get bored of the game quite fast.

	21-08-2005 00:11									#7
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 ..................... Studies, girlfriend, wife, family, job?

Yes. Studies, girlfriend, wife, family and job.
In fact, at least in part, Civ III was responsible for my divorce... Thanks, Sid!

	21-08-2005 00:56									#8
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I already have a portion of my life devoted to apolyton and gaming.

The thing is I can't consistantly post at apolyton and do serious gaming. I just don't have the time. So I will be sacrificing apolyton. Hold the applause please, I'll be back eventually. I will take the time to look at the strategy threads for civ4.

I will also sacrifice other games. I have 17 full size games on my hard drive. I will probably have to delete one. And it will most likely be civ3. I will also not have time to play games such as SMAC, BG2, and NWN. Or morrowind. I really only have time to devote to one game at at a time.

	21-08-2005 00:58									#9
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 Damn. I must have struck a nerve with the community. I thought there would at least be some flames.. But it is something worth thinking about, eh? I ask this question as someone who has spent a huge portion of my life playing civ series.. time that i wish i could get back. I'm not saying that i didnt get some pleasure out of it. But i'm only now realizing that time is the most precious resource anyone can have. How you prioritize your time and spend it is the most important decision you make in your life. There have been many long stretches of time where playing civ was my #1 priority. But when you look at it objectively, it should have been something like #223 on the list of important things to do.. Ok, now I'll wait for this thread to get closed. Or at least moved to OT (but it really belongs here) . Peace.

isn't it a sign of addiction that you do something you know you shouldn't be doing? I have no regrets about my time spent playing civ2, smac, and civ3. It's not like I had a life anyways. If I had a girlfriend, I wouldn't play these games at all. Or at least not very much. I just wouldn't have the time.

	21-08-2005 01:04									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Dis It's not like I had a life anyways. If I had a girlfriend, I wouldn't play these games at all. Or at least not very much. I just wouldn't have the time.

Or, hopefully, the inclination in case you had a gf.

	21-08-2005 02:15									#11
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I'm so lucky to just have started in the special Nordic thing called "folkehøyskole"(directly translated people's high school), where I go on "IT and programming"(I am completely novice so this will be fun!) and I have lots of people around me interested in games, even one who is (probably) just as nuts on Civ like me. So I think my social life won't be thataffected hopefully. But my spare time will guaranteed be short!

	21-08-2005 02:53									#12
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I finally got a girlfriend after a long time, and now I'll have to make sure she understands that I just need to play Civ4... Damn, I was happier without a girlfriend.

	21-08-2005 07:05									#13
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I will be in the Philippines with more than 5 months off.

Twenty hours a week I pity the soul who has but 20 hours a week to spare for his empire.

"Ask not what your Civ can do for you, but what you can do for your Civ". -Lancer

	21-08-2005 08:47									#14
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If anyone sacrifices something for a computer game, it can only be their intelligence.

	21-08-2005 09:51									#15
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd If anyone sacrifices something for a computer game, it can only be their intelligence.

For sure. Long time ago, for most of us. What else could justify this kind of discussion in this kind of forum? It's pathetic.
However, I'm too old to change now...

	21-08-2005 12:13									#16
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its been nice knowing you ("the wife") ...then sleep

the frist one to say Apolyton should be banned

I have senority and over 120 hrs vacation to use,

	21-08-2005 12:28									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Platypus Rex its been nice knowing you ("the wife") ...then sleep the frist one to say Apolyton should be banned I have senority and over 120 hrs vacation to use,

I already said Apolyton. And I have no shame in my choice.

Anytime I really get into a game (whether it be a Civ TBS or a RPG), I rarely post here until I'm done. I kind of a have a single track mind, and it's difficult for me to do both. Because even if I tell myself only to hang around here for 20 minutes, that never seems to happen. I'll see a whole bunch of interesting threads, and then it will be an hour and a half. And I only get about 3 hours before and 3 hours after work to play games. If I'm here for 1.5 hours, that leaves 1.5 hours. Which really isn't enough time to even get into the game. Hell, just the first turn on a scenario such as WW2 pacific on Civ3 takes 45 minutes.

What's more important? Civ4 or Apolyton?

	21-08-2005 13:32									#18
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I'll just stop playing all the other games I usually play to get more time for Civ4

	21-08-2005 19:39									#19
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I'm just lucky. I'm a sailor, so I won't sacrifice anything. Six months on sea with Civ 4 seems a hell of fun. But seriously it's scary becouse of the addictivnes of the game. Just like in the previev...

	21-08-2005 21:33									#20
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I generally hate TV and most movies, so this is how I spend my time. At work and at home, I'm very productive...though I must admit that I find home improvement projects really tedious. So that's my answer:

I'm sacrificing my house's resale value.

	21-08-2005 22:21									#21
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If there is someone here that will sacrifice something for Civ4 that person is Yin. My stomach surely sympathizes with yours, Yin.

	21-08-2005 22:44									#22
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This thread has opened my mind! ever since civ4 was announced, i've been sacrifying time to a false cause: i've addictively been reading apolyton-threads about civ4 where actually, deep inside, i was seeking to play civ4, whose impossibility i was simply unwilling to accept. what a fool i was! but this is over now. i will stay away from apolyton and devote all my time to better, just causes, like my friends and my studies. and actual civ4-games in november!

so long suckers!

	21-08-2005 22:57									#24
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	22-08-2005 01:32									#25
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quote: Originally posted by khai I'm just lucky. I'm a sailor, so I won't sacrifice anything. Six months on sea with Civ 4 seems a hell of fun. But seriously it's scary becouse of the addictivnes of the game. Just like in the previev...

exactly how do you play civ4 out at sea? Are you in the navy?

I was in the U.S. navy. I admit, one of the reasons why I got out was because I hated sacrificing playing computer games when I went out to sea. Although now days laptops are good enough you could probably use a laptop out at sea. In fact I could have bought a laptop back in 1996. I believe they had them then. But they were quite expensive.

And another reason is I never had time to play out at sea. I worked 12 to 15 hours a day 7 days a week. And I'm the type of person that needs 7 hours of sleep a night, or I'm nonfunctional. So even if I had a laptop out at sea, I wouldn't have much time to play it.

	22-08-2005 06:02									#26
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Alex: I was thinking about that, too, but Markos will never send a copy!

	22-08-2005 06:41									#27
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I have seen this spoken of elsewhere, why might Yin be eating a CivIV box?

	22-08-2005 11:22									#28
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Well, as much of a fanatic as I most certainly am, I can honestly say that I am too conscientious about my work to sacrifice that in order to play Civ4. All other vestiges of a social life outside of work? Yeah, almost certainly. At least until I have played it at least a hundred times or so-then I think I will start communicating with the human race once more.

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.

	22-08-2005 12:20									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Wise Ass I have seen this spoken of elsewhere, why might Yin be eating a CivIV box?

In short, he made a bet with Markos that if Civ IV was better than Civ III, he would eat a Civ IV box (or at least part of it). And post pics or a video of him eating it

	22-08-2005 14:17									#30
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Dis: Nope. I'm in the civil. I'm a third officer on a freighter. I work 8 hours a day. So that leaves me plenty of time to play Civ4. Of coz, if there isn't any storm on the horizon. Laptop is my main computer, so thats not a problem. Thanks to Inmarsat , I can connect to the internet once in a while (expensive thou). Funny thing is that on my last contract we've sailed to Baltimore, and two members of crew bought themselves laptops just to experience "gaming on the waves". We have so much fun playin together not only Civ.