01-01-2001 07:37									#91
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A Team,
Sounds like you are exploring a similar avenue in some of the game options with things like the no hut idea, and no wonders even if my reasons for them are somewhat differant than yours. Those are explained in this thread earlier.

I really think all the options are great to play, and I especially love a good wonder race , and all the stuff that "traditionally" comes along with this game. Have not explored 2x2 much and probably won't either.
The Pluel is just a type of game I am interested in for an option in playing.



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	01-01-2001 07:58									#92
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The Equal map, 4 player Pluel scenario is ready for simu play.

Here is the general things in the game:

A Pluel is a 3 or more player game in the same spirit as a duel in that the civs do not co operate between themselves. It can be in any setting as a regular MP game, or bloodlust, SS race only, or whatever. But it is done as in a duel, which are not all bloodlust games either.

APOLLO ONLY PLUEL
Each civ in a Pluel is on their own!
FUNDEMOCRACY = no science penalty, Dem like trade added to trade squares, grassland, and a couple normally non trade specials like iron. Plains may not produce dem like trade but then a player might be more likely to transform it to grassland. 3 non
suport units. WLPD = extra trade

VOTED RULES:
No stealing, bribing, planting nuke device, poisoning water, trading stuff or info, sabotage (sabotage could start with espionage)
Trade routes only with own civ

SCENARIO RULES:
No huts, barbs/
No city capture techs/
No govt switching/
No nukes in game/
Embassies from start, no dips. SS travel slowed*
No sabotage = wonderlike city improvements for all!

This is not my idea of some "ultimate-everything else sucks kind of game" but is just an alternate style.

In playing these games so far there is some discussion on no sabotage being imbalanced making war too costly.
Now with 3 none supported units, and a stable "scenario guaranteed enhanced govt", and sabotage beggining with espionage, maybe this will be helped. Techs should still be at same rate, and trade benifits should be similar to democracy.

Anyone is welcome to check out either the map or the scenario. I can send it email or ICQ and would very much like some comments and suggestions on both but especially the map. It isn't a major scenario deal, but that was the environment chosen to use to reach the goals I was looking for.

	01-01-2001 08:07									#93
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We should be still on for our game wed at same time.
Maybe we could again try for tue eve too?

Hope everyones connection is working so we can get after it Discovered that mine was in need of improvement and maybe that will help too.

If we want simu moves the host Nappy could get with Markus? Seems like we all agreed to do this.

Brocher when is your last game? Then we can message Frankdog to be ready to fill in. Sorry to see you go.
Maybe try again after you return.

	01-01-2001 20:57									#94
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Happy New Year all!

I am still interested (i think...NOT a fan of simlus as some kids are using it) & avail based on times & days U R showing here.

	04-01-2001 08:07									#95
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password is pnoise if there is one but i wouldn't bother i'm too far behind u will just be cannon fodder for every one else. if you are a masochist this is the civ for you .think im first in pollution only just cant play that ics find it too monotonous .
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	04-01-2001 20:55									#96
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Thx for the password for Frankdog. YOu were the first to Phil & Rep Brocher! I do not consider myself an ics'r, but it looks like mine is the most cities in this game. See ya when you get back!

	05-01-2001 05:20									#97
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Hey Frank... that's what i do best... provide cannon fodder! Especially for the esteemed group U hae here firing th ecannons!
Why i'd even fall on my sword just to be crushed (so they think) by them.

I'll be avail if U want me... how about sending me a save so i can get familiar.

At your "service", Ken T / Miloette
(Milo's sister, the 1 that likes to get fire on by big bad Civ rulers) :P

	08-01-2001 10:32									#98
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Aloha gentlemen...just got back in town from Hawaii...Are we on for Tues. Jan 9th or Wed. Jan. 10th?

	08-01-2001 02:40									#99
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Welcome back, Wed for sure but hopefully tue everyone will be here too. I will try to be on before 6pm pacific both days in case we can all start earlier than 6pm.

Markus and Frankdog?

	10-01-2001 03:39									#100
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Nappy said he could be here by 6:30 or so. Works for me.
Markus?

	10-01-2001 04:00									#101
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Hi, I am back from the southlands... north for most of you I suspect.

I can't make tonight (Tuesday). I was planning for tomorrow (Wednesday). If KenThur is still interested, he can sub instead tonight. I can be available tomorrow if he doesnt want to continue, or not, if he wants to keep play. Either way is OK??

	10-01-2001 14:20									#102
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Glad to see you there Frankdog. Brocher has not had to leave yet anyway and is not sure exactly when he will. The game is schedualed for tomorrow at 6pm pacific time like you figured. So please be there in case Brocher is gone. It may be over soon anyway...

	11-01-2001 04:10									#103
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sure... I will hang around on ICQ tonight...

	11-01-2001 07:14									#104
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you there frankdog? we could use you

	12-01-2001 10:55									#105
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My g**d****!! DSL busted last night! It is still busted.
Sorry about that. I was at home cursing my PC all night. I am still available, whenever the phone company here fixes things... which should be soon.

(I am at work right now)

	12-01-2001 12:42									#106
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Sorry to here that!!
It did not go well for us either, as one player had connection troubles too. Each tried hosting but nothing worked.

Saturday morning hopefully we can make up for it.
I can be on at 6am pacific time or earlier if need be, and play till at least 10.
How bout you guys?

	13-01-2001 03:48									#107
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	13-01-2001 05:16									#108
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6 am on a sat .....u can't be serious my blood will still be 50% alcohol at that friggin time might be around later if there are no blackouts

	13-01-2001 12:04									#109
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I wasn't meaning we needed to start at that time, just that I was available from that time on. No one has confirmed, but I will sign on then and see who is there.

	13-01-2001 21:01									#110
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well was here at 8 am............. a little worse for the ware but made it nobody else here though not even crusty

	13-01-2001 21:13									#111
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Was here at 6 and 8, will check back later...

	17-01-2001 21:50									#112
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Lets finnish this one, Nappy suggested sat/sun sometime and tue eves.
sat early am for me
tues 6pm is good too for me.

	18-01-2001 09:13									#113
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Ok guys...lets try to finish this up....I am available this Sat. and Sun at 9am PST and also Tues at 6:30pm PST...

	18-01-2001 12:33									#114
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I am available from 8am pacific on sat

	18-01-2001 20:24									#115
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8am PST on Sat is fine..

	20-01-2001 10:06									#116
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will be here at 8 am , was pissed off when markusf didn't make it last week, if he doesn'nt show this this week then **** him i have allready given my opinion of him on his LOOK AT ME IM GREAT POST dont wanna get up early again for no reason,so call it quits for me if we dont play on sat
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	20-01-2001 13:00									#117
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see ya at 8 in the mornin

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	21-01-2001 11:52									#118
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Maybe this game can be continued PBEM style.



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	22-01-2001 21:28									#119
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We are soooo close to finishing this game. If we could find a time to re-group for 1-2 more sessions we could wrap this up. I am available Tues. 23rd 6:30pm PDT or next Sat am again.

	23-01-2001 07:36									#120
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well 2 saturdays i have dragged myself out of bed to play, but all in vain ........guess i can make it tues but can't promise. u can sub my civ out i wont mind. be nice to conclude in the next session or so,im sure nappy is impatient to reach AC