28-08-2005 01:30									#1
	optimum placement of echelon mirrors Support Apolyton

im looking at how to get the most energy per 21 tiles or so. this is with crawlers but somewhat cramped conditions- energy parks a long ways away are out of the question. boreholes cant be accessed period(yeah this sounds rigged ) im assuming ideal situations i realize, as i would need to build around rocky tiles but im just looking for a ideal flat map answer...

i have 2 models in the attached jpeg. seems like the city in no2 gets the most(70?) compared to 40? in the no1. i couldnt find detailed talk on this subject however. im positive there must be a thread somewhere overflowing with juicy terraforming strats... the echelons themselves give 1? but im assuming the player has crawled them for nuts.

	28-08-2005 01:31									#2
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the jpeg didnt attach

	28-08-2005 01:36									#3
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http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...tilepattern.JPG

k i used upload service hope that works fine

	28-08-2005 03:24									#4
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Is the red dot marking one of your bases?

I thought that the optimum Echy Mirror/solar panel was

0X0X0
X0X0X
0X0X0
X0X0X

Where X is the mirror and 0 is the solar panel.

	28-08-2005 03:30									#5
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I thought it was

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	28-08-2005 03:34									#6
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red dot base
red line base radois
black echelon
blue solar

each solar in fig. 1. get 1+4 but in fig. 2. has 1+6. seems like fig. 2. is better?

	28-08-2005 04:41									#7
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guys guys guys


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I think mine needs a certain minimum size before its more profitable though. It would probably help if you built the base upon a pre-formed eschelon mirror, but that scheme was made for energy parks.

Don't ask me to explain why its best, I just copied it from a previous thread on this subject.

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	28-08-2005 06:13									#9
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has anyone told you two recently that your the best?

	29-08-2005 16:20									#10
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The best production is probably food supporting specialists, depending on your tech level. Any tile in the game can produce 6 nutrients (farm / condensor / soil enricher). Those 6 nutrients can support 3 specialists (crawl the nutrients) before satellites and 6 specialists afterwards. Assuming that you are using engineers, each one produces 5 energy equivalents (actually better than energy in that none is lost to inefficiency), so the grand total per tile is 15 energy before satellites and 30 after.

	30-08-2005 08:02									#11
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On an alternate note, in order to try and help the AI's, why I tried to place an Echelon Mirror under an AI base: kept crashing the game. FYI to other CMN's who may read this.


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	31-08-2005 01:11									#12
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If a human player places a base on top of an Echelon Mirror, do the adjecent sensors still get +1 energy?

	01-09-2005 03:49									#13
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Yes, assuming you place solar panels in the adjoining bases. Base square production is unaffected, however.

There are 3 types of terraforming that aren't obliterated by base foundation:

Sensor Beacon
Eschelon Mirror
Condenser

Of the three, the Sensor beacon is far and away my favorite. I'm not a big fan of solar panels for energy generation at any rate, favoring boreholes, forests and condenser-farms as my terraforming choices. The utility of a 25% defensive bonus which can't be removed without uprooting my base defenders is just TOO useful.