29-08-2005 07:02									#31
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Gee, you guys are worse than sharks. I swear

	29-08-2005 08:42									#32
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Indeed . Though Kirkland is a very good keeper and will be a fine backup.

Anyway, with Robinho's performance, how quickly do you think Owen decides to move? Whether it is to Liverpool or Newcastle, Owen has to realize his time at Bernbau is just about over.

	29-08-2005 09:14									#33
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Unfortunately, Benitez doesn't seem to want Owen back, so it seems NUFC is his only realistic choice. Which, of course, is fortunate for you.

	29-08-2005 09:15									#34
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Unless Owen continues to be a prat and would rather be a 4th choice striker. I mean he turned down Everton who are UEFA Cup bound and he hasn't said jack about NUFC's offer.

	29-08-2005 09:28									#35
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He doesn't have much time left, either...

Speaking of Everton, didn't they get knocked out of the Euro Cup?

	29-08-2005 09:51									#36
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Hmmm... I thought since they lost in CL qualifying they went directly to the UEFA Cup... or is that only in group stages. Frankly, it gets a bit confusing for me when CL teams that aren't good enough get dropped down to the UEFA Cup.

	29-08-2005 15:17									#37
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Everton are in the UEFA now along with Bolton and Middlesbrough, should still be in the CL though, having a perfect goal ruled out near the end, surprisingly Collina was getting it wrong all night.

	29-08-2005 18:16									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora Everton are in the UEFA now along with Bolton and Middlesbrough, should still be in the CL though, having a perfect goal ruled out near the end, surprisingly Collina was getting it wrong all night.

how can one goal affect the winner in a 4-2 cup tie?

	29-08-2005 18:36									#39
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A draw!!!

Oh....

	29-08-2005 18:50									#40
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quote: Originally posted by alva A draw!!! Oh....

"cup tie' is perfectly correct in this instance. "tie" as in fixture, not as in draw!!!

	29-08-2005 19:13									#41
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I'm not surprised Owen wouldn't go to Everton. Shearer memorably turned down the scum, and I don't think he'd ever have gone to Sunderland, no matter how good they were and how much cash they'd throw at him. Some things are bigger than cash in football.

	29-08-2005 19:26									#42
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Owen was an Everton fan when he was kid though iirc.

	29-08-2005 19:38									#43
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Hey Imran: http://nufc.com. It says that Owen will be having talks with both Newcastle and Liverpool over a potential transfer.

There's still hope....
Let's just hope that Souness guarantees hima starting place. I've got a feeling he'll say something stupid though.

	29-08-2005 19:41									#44
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever how can one goal affect the winner in a 4-2 cup tie?

It was 1-1 on the night at that time (3-2 on agg).

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Owen has to go Newcastle though, right? I mean he's wasting his time at Madrid, and Benitez doesn't really seem interested. Newcastle may not be in good shape but for once managerial instability may actually encourage the move...Souness

Nice snippet from today's paper recording Souness's week, ending with "spend's whole day hiding from chairman in the car park".

	29-08-2005 19:44									#45
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Aha! Another Grauniad reader.

The crossword was atrocious today, but *gritting teeth* David Pleat was right about Newcastle wasting their time playing balls up to Shearer with no-one there to collect those he wins.

	29-08-2005 19:48									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Joe Kick Ass It was 1-1 on the night at that time (3-2 on agg)

...err, and then Villareal scored again?

At no point in those two legs were Everton winning the tie.

	29-08-2005 20:05									#47
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever ...err, and then Villareal scored again? At no point in those two legs were Everton winning the tie.

Had they been allowed the goal, they wouldn't have been losing.

I don't think you can work on the assumption that the following minutes of the match would have panned out in an identical manner had the goal stood. This not least because of Everton's change in mindset.

I'm not bothered about speculating anyway - if Everton were ever going to qualify they needed luck on their side, starting with the draw.

	30-08-2005 03:33									#48
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Hey Imran: http://nufc.com. It says that Owen will be having talks with both Newcastle and Liverpool over a potential transfer. There's still hope.... Let's just hope that Souness guarantees hima starting place. I've got a feeling he'll say something stupid though.

There is hope, but a sliver. A few more days left.

I'm sure Souness will be giving him a starting space. It seems that Souey wants to move away from a 4-4-2. A 4-3-3 that looks like:

Luque - Shearer - Owen
Emre - Parker - Bowyer
Babayaro - Boumsong - Taylor - Carr

could be the trick...

then again, Dyer is still hurt and did play pretty well last year, so perhaps we'll fall into a 4-4-2 with Dyer and Luque as the wings (though it may be a waste of Luque).

	30-08-2005 04:48									#49
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News:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...=341004&cc=5901

quote: England striker Michael Owen has held talks with Newcastle over a possible move to St James' Park. The 25-year-old Real Madrid frontman met for several hours with Newcastle officials in Northumberland this afternoon, but there was no word from the club about the outcome after talks concluded. The talks involved Newcastle boss Graeme Souness, skipper Alan Shearer, chairman Freddy Shepherd and his son Kenny, together with coach Dean Saunders.

quote: Owen has revealed he would sooner join his former club Liverpool than Newcastle, and it is understood he was also planning talks with Anfield officials during his trip. He left Liverpool for Spain in an £8million move just last summer but is keen to return, providing agreement can be reached with Real.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...=341110&cc=5901

quote: Feyenoord striker Dirk Kuyt has ruled out making a deadline-beating move to the Premiership. The 25-year-old Holland player was the subject of a failed £10million bid from Everton at the start of August and has reportedly also attracted Liverpool and Tottenham's attention. However Kuyt, who scored 29 goals in 34 league games last season and has started the new campaign with three in three matches, has now committed to Feyenoord until next summer.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...=340888&cc=5901

quote: Livorno president Aldo Spinelli claims to have turned down a Tottenham bid for striker Cristiano Lucarelli. The 29-year-old was last season's top scorer in Serie A with 24 goals. However Livorno insist they have no intention of selling Lucarelli to Tottenham or any other club.

Striker news all around the Premier League.

	30-08-2005 05:25									#50
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I hope Newcastle get the Welsh dwarf. He jumped ship once, he'd do it again if things wern't working out at Liverpool.


BTW Imran, that coach is it the ex-Liverpool player?

	30-08-2005 07:22									#51
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According to wiki, it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Saunders

	30-08-2005 07:56									#52
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Btw, BRAVO NIKE!

This is the commerical they are showing not just when MLS or EPL matches are on, on cable, but during other shows and other sports:

http://www.nike.com/nikesoccer/justdoit/spot/video.html

At least Nike is behind US Soccer .

	30-08-2005 08:06									#53
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever "cup tie' is perfectly correct in this instance. "tie" as in fixture, not as in draw!!!

Imran is gonna get a complex...

	30-08-2005 08:15									#54
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Not I. I don't care what lengths the Brits go to confuse others .

	30-08-2005 14:41									#55
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if foreigners want to be allowed to talk about sports, they've got to learn the lingo first.

	30-08-2005 15:33									#56
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Looks like Owen has finally realised no-one better than Newcastle wants him and he's off to St James's Park. At £17M plus his salary I'm not surprised Liverpool didn't sign him. After all they only got £8M plus a player they have since sold for him a year ago.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ted/4196760.stm

This probably means Cisse will be staying since Liverpool don't now need the transfer money. I wasn't impressed with him last season but he seems to be playing better this season. Crouch should be back from his hamstring injury when the Premiership resumes after the internationals and a lot will probably depend on whether he proves to be a goalscorer.

	30-08-2005 19:58									#57
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quote: Looks like Owen has finally realised no-one better than Newcastle wants him.

Sadly true, although I am astonished that the Fat Controller has actually parted with the cash for him.

	30-08-2005 21:20									#58
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I hope Owen has a release clause if they are relegated.

	31-08-2005 00:48									#59
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH I hope Owen has a release clause if they are relegated.

he has, which speaks volumes!

	31-08-2005 01:22									#60
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newcastle will be ok now they've got owen, luque will play on the left wing, milner/dyer on the right, owen and shearer up front. they should be aiming for europe now with that lot.

although i can;t help but think that it would have been a lot cheaper just to keep lauren robert in the first place