02-09-2005 05:18									#661
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Can we impeach the whole Federal government now?

	02-09-2005 05:26									#662
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer I just saw the Director of FEMA tell Paula Zahn that the Federal Government did not even know about the refugees in the convention center until today. I can not ****ing believe this.

	02-09-2005 05:29									#663
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I know this is not the thread for politics, and ban me if that's what you feel appropriate, but I really don't see another thread to ask this question:

Why were we so unprepared for an urban disaster, four years after September 11th?

And this wasn't even a sudden terrorist attack, without warning. We had--at worst--days to come up with some sort of plan. And yet, chaos reigns.

Don't get me wrong. The people actively involved in relief efforts are beyond praise. But where was the planning?

	02-09-2005 05:36									#664
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Found out some info on a friend today. Thankfully she is back in Arkansas.


Some of my unit has been activated for duty in Mississippi. In the next few weeks more are likely to be called up. There are so many efforts going on in Little Rock to relieve the plight of those that made it out and up here that it's a little daunting. People are enrolling their children in local schools. I guess they got the word that they should expect to stay up here awhile. Some people on the local news objected to the use of the word refugee but I don't figure the people affected are thinking too much about what they should be called.

	02-09-2005 06:13									#665
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quote: People are enrolling their children in local schools. I guess they got the word that they should expect to stay up here awhile. Some people on the local news objected to the use of the word refugee but I don't figure the people affected are thinking too much about what they should be called.

IIRC 30 students enrolled in Junction City (a little dot on the map south of El Dorado).

There has been a lot of kindness to refugees up here - churches in the city are housing and feeding them, people are just freely giving strangers (from LA) money, someone who had a house that isn't being rented or inhabited is going to let a family use it until things sort out, and these are just things I personally have seen, this is not to mention giving to the Red Cross, other random kindnesses, etc.

How many people do we estimate will have houses to return to after all the water is pumped out and everything is finally dry again?

How many people will actually return to those houses? How many will rebuild?

	02-09-2005 06:24									#666
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer I just saw the Director of FEMA tell Paula Zahn that the Federal Government did not even know about the refugees in the convention center until today. I can not ****ing believe this.

yeah I saw a FEMA guy tell Brian Williams the same thing on ABC...

Even MY dumb ass knew there were people in the Superdome

edit: POST 666!!!!

	02-09-2005 06:25									#667
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Maybe they should read Poly...

	02-09-2005 06:32									#668
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell IIRC 30 students enrolled in Junction City (a little dot on the map south of El Dorado). There has been a lot of kindness to refugees up here - churches in the city are housing and feeding them, people are just freely giving strangers (from LA) money, someone who had a house that isn't being rented or inhabited is going to let a family use it until things sort out, and these are just things I personally have seen, this is not to mention giving to the Red Cross, other random kindnesses, etc.

In Little Rock everyone is running around everywhere doing all sorts of things for them. They are all over the state with some in Springdale and Jonesboro. The Govenor mentioned that Fort Chaffee (near Fort Smith) may be used to house people if they keep pouring in. Chaffee is a gaurd base with rows upon rows of empty barracks that haven't been used since the Army left a few years ago. The biggest problem is that nobody knows exactly how many people are here since a lot simply drove up and got hotel rooms or had family here to stay with. So far I've just been able to drop a few cases of water at collection points.

	02-09-2005 06:35									#669
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quote: Originally posted by Sava yeah I saw a FEMA guy tell Brian Williams the same thing on ABC... Even MY dumb ass knew there were people in the Superdome edit: POST 666!!!!

Actually, the Sperdome and the Convention Center are two different places, according to other posters.

I didn;t know that there was a convention center or that it was filled with refugees. At the same time, I am not the head of FEMA....

	02-09-2005 06:35									#670
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NM.

CNN has been talking to a man in the convention center who says most of the people there were told by authorities (without specifying who these "authorities" were) that the convention center would be a pickup point, just as the Superdome is. So people started gathering there Monday, expecting food and water. As has been said, FEMA only learned that they are there today.

	02-09-2005 06:48									#671
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The city:http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/arc...ra__205774a.jpg

	02-09-2005 07:04									#672
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Earlier Sava posted something negative about Wal Mart's level of giving but they have actually given more than he posted (I guess since he posted it)

Currently they're on $1M to the Red Cross and $1M to the Salvation Army - in addition, individual Wal Marts may well do more, and all 3,800 locations will take individual donations.

	02-09-2005 07:11									#673
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Fat's Domino is alive!

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	02-09-2005 07:21									#674
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All is right with the world.
Che can call off the impeachment.

	02-09-2005 08:05									#675
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Actually, the Sperdome and the Convention Center are two different places, according to other posters. I didn;t know that there was a convention center or that it was filled with refugees. At the same time, I am not the head of FEMA....

oh...

well the FEMA guy and Brian Williams were talking about the Superdome...

	02-09-2005 08:09									#676
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Earlier Sava posted something negative about Wal Mart's level of giving but they have actually given more than he posted (I guess since he posted it) Currently they're on $1M to the Red Cross and $1M to the Salvation Army - in addition, individual Wal Marts may well do more, and all 3,800 locations will take individual donations.

Last fiscal year US$285.2 billion in revenue

so they've gone up to $2 million?!??!?!

alert the media

	02-09-2005 08:10									#677
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell Earlier Sava posted something negative about Wal Mart's level of giving but they have actually given more than he posted (I guess since he posted it) Currently they're on $1M to the Red Cross and $1M to the Salvation Army - in addition, individual Wal Marts may well do more, and all 3,800 locations will take individual donations.

The Wal Mart CEO tonight said that they would contribute 17 millions + the stuff that they're sending down south.

	02-09-2005 08:13									#678
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quote: Originally posted by Richelieu The Wal Mart CEO tonight said that they would contribute 17 millions + the stuff that they're sending down south.

now that's more like it

but still...

if they want me to stop ripping on them, they better give like a billion dollars...

I'm not kidding

	02-09-2005 08:14									#679
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I'm not kidding

Of course not.

	02-09-2005 08:14									#680
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Well people and coporations will need to conitnue to the contribute money to the relief effort for months. So they could end up giving alot more in the months to come.

	02-09-2005 08:15									#681
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Take it somewhere else Sava... this thread wasn't meant for you to rag Wal Mart... or any other political crap... it's meant for news and info.

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quote: Originally posted by Ming Take it somewhere else Sava... this thread wasn't meant for you to rag Wal Mart... or any other political crap... it's meant for news and info.

sorry... I was responding to mr mitchell

	02-09-2005 08:20									#683
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Tough talk from Gov. Blanco:

quote: NEW ORLEANS - New Orleans descended into anarchy Thursday as corpses lay abandoned in street medians, fights and fires broke out, cops turned in their badges and the governor declared war on looters who have made the city a menacing landscape of disorder and fear. "They have M-16s and they're locked and loaded," Gov. Kathleen Blanco said of 300 National Guard troops who landed in New Orleans fresh from duty in Iraq. "These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/hurricane_katrina

	02-09-2005 08:25									#684
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Feel free to start a new one.