31-08-2005 05:36									#31
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Looting is looting. There was ample time to make plans, make purchases.

Yup, but then there was suddendtly a hurricane that might had destroyed those purchases - what then ?

I would even consider batteries and small radioes as nonlooting items.

	31-08-2005 05:49									#32
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Condoning the looting of 'basic necessities' is a slippery slope the way I see it. Base assumption, "looting is looting, case closed".

I can however see why one would make exceptions for the very most desperate of situations, but frankly, baby diapers is very far off from that. And so are any food items at this point.

So-called basic necessities seems to be a very arbitrary term, open to individual interpretation to an extent I don't think many people would want to see...

	31-08-2005 05:52									#33
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i would have prepared.. but what if very poor and not able.. then all you do have wiped out.. no aid you can see coming... yes id take what i needed for children or baby to survive... take me to jail.. at least be fed there , given water.

	31-08-2005 05:53									#34
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So, when are these store-owners going to be able to get back to these stores, and what condition will the goods be in then?

Let's get real here. NO is under 10 feet of water and it's rising rapidly. Stuff sitting around in stores is going to be wasted anyway. So I don't give a rat's ass if it's "looted" or not. It's not as if these store owners aren't insured anyway.

Frankly, I think the national guard should be coordinating the "looting" of stores that are going to be destroyed by the flood anyway and get those supplies to the people in need.

	31-08-2005 05:53									#35
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Blah. They're taking TVs.

	31-08-2005 05:55									#36
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Who cares? Authorities should be focused on saving people at this point. So long as looters aren't endangering the lives of others, to hell with them.

Oh, and the footage of the looting they showed on CNN was NOT of people taking TVs. It was all groceries and clothing items, and other such supplies (like toilet paper).

Come on, what the **** is someone stuck in downtown NO going to even DO with a TV now? If they're dumb enough to encumber themselves with such a thing, then a double to hell with them.

	31-08-2005 05:57									#37
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You're not stealing from the government that you love to protest about, you're stealing from real people.
As Mrs. T. pointed out, some will steal merely to steal.
In any event, society has determined that theft is wrong.
We don't stipulate that piss poor planning on your part supercedes this decision.
You can apply all the mass rationalization to it that you want.
It's wrong, end of story.

	31-08-2005 05:57									#38
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That's right Attack choppers aren't much use in rescue missions, let them deal with the looters.

	31-08-2005 06:02									#39
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We need a pillaging and a raping poll to get the full picture here.

	31-08-2005 06:02									#40
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Ah, it's refreshing seeing the self-righteous (and, coincidentally enough, Republican) folks who are sitting high and dry in their comfy homes posting away on the internet pontificating on the right and wrong behavior of desperate people who are trapped in a disaster zone.

	31-08-2005 06:03									#41
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Humor, look it up.

	31-08-2005 06:04									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer That's right Attack choppers aren't much use in rescue missions, let them deal with the looters.

Quite agree. Instead of sending in rescues teams, they should send in heavily armed units with orders to kill to protect toilet paper and other stuff that people may find it nessecary to steal such as clean water, food and even diapers.

	31-08-2005 06:04									#43
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Thanks for sharing that latest self-righteous observation, Boris Godunov.

	31-08-2005 06:04									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov self-righteous (and, coincidentally enough, Republican) folks who are sitting high and dry in their comfy homes

I wish that were the case.

Theft is still theft to me anyway.

	31-08-2005 06:07									#46
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If a casino washes up on your property, is it your casino?

	31-08-2005 06:09									#47
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I wish that were the case. Theft is still theft to me anyway.

Might be, but I guess that if you should end up in a situation where you have to starve or lack water, you wouldn't hesitate for a moment to pick up your necessities where you could.

	31-08-2005 06:10									#48
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You know what? This hurricane didn't check voter registration before it hit; but go ahead and spout that kind of garbage if you want.

By the same token, I don't see it mentioned that any camera people, police, shopowners with guns, asked to see a voter registration either.

YOU just made the observation, all on your little lonesome, that democrats are thieving looters.
I would never say that, nor have I ever claimed to be republican.

Your argument, with all due respect, is rank with error.

	31-08-2005 06:14									#49
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Yeah, and the guys with TVs and other electronics on their backs are just trying to to catch the latest news reports on the disaster.

I can see if you're hungry taking a can of food, or thirsty a bottle of water. Are you guys watching TV? These people are stripping the stores of everything they can carry. They are, for the most part, oportunistic thieves.

	31-08-2005 06:15									#50
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Might be, but I guess that if you should end up in a situation where you have to starve or lack water, you wouldn't hesitate for a moment to pick up your necessities where you could.

Hell under the right circumstances, I'd probably murder someone to. That doesn't really change the nature of the action though.

	31-08-2005 06:22									#51
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Today I learned: The people advocating the law of the jungle are often the ones you'd least expect.

	31-08-2005 06:22									#52
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Taking TVs, etc: illegal, immoral, irreprehensible
Taking food, other items necessary for survival: illegal, but understandable.

	31-08-2005 06:24									#53
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Reprehensible.

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Hell under the right circumstances, I'd probably murder someone to. That doesn't really change the nature of the action though.

Sure it does. "Stealing" nessetieces during such as the current catastrophe can't in any way be considered looting. If not, first of all, the shopowners should be available (or at least staff), next credit card readers should work - just tell me how many of these were functioning during and after the storm.

	31-08-2005 06:28									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Today I learned: The people advocating the law of the jungle are often the ones you'd least expect.

Depends on what jungle you want.

	31-08-2005 06:29									#56
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Looting is looting but sometimes not looting might be the greater evil (like if your kid is starving).

	31-08-2005 06:31									#57
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So Black Cat, that means one could enter your home and refortify as required.
What was your address again?

	31-08-2005 06:31									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Reprehensible.

Fallen to the level of inane nitpicking have we? When can I expect the legion of civgroup icons?

	31-08-2005 06:32									#59
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I was just trying to help.

	31-08-2005 06:37									#60
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We need Jackie Childs from Seinfeld.

Reprehensible. Contemptable. Nay, shall I say it? Democratic.