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Norway:


Scandinavia basically pwns the argument made by Neo-Liberals and Libertarians about how awful the welfare state is. And also shows why Economics has become a farce, it has become a Neo-Liberal cult that predicts doom and gloom for any country that does not bend over backwards for business. What happened to the Keynesians?

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Consider which country the UN building continues to be in.



Geneva ?

http://www.unog.ch/





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Ambassador Kevin Edward Moley
Permanent Representative of the United States of America To the United Nations and Other International Organizations in Geneva

Ambassador Moley was nominated by President Bush to serve as the U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations and Other International Organizations in Geneva on September 14, 2001 and was confirmed for this position by the United States Senate on September 26, 2001.


http://geneva.usmission.gov/

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Until some silly frigid ass European nation gets a city as good as Las Vegas (and surrounding area), I shall remain here.


Then you'll remain there for life. If any other city outside Nevada aspires to be like Vegas, it pretty much means the Apocalypse is nigh.

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I haven't been killed, nor have I ever seen a gun fired at another human being. Murder is almost non-existant in the U.S. (!!!!!) Unless you are in a gang. Domestic murder happens sometimes. But random killings are very rare.




Dream on.



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BJS Report Finds Murder Rate Unchanged
In the latest National Crime Victimization Survey, the Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that the U.S. murder rate for 2003 was about 5.6 per 100,000 persons, unchanged from 2001 and 2002. Of the victims of murder, approximately 49% were white and 49% were black. (DPIC note: While the report found that the race of victims is evenly split nationally, victims in death penalty cases are mostly white (about 81%)). In murder cases, 76% of the offenders were known to the victim, and 24% of offenders were strangers. Firearms were used in 71% of murders and homicides were mostly intraracial (victim and offender of same race). The most cited circumstance leading to murder was an argument (28%). Read the full report. (Bureau of Justice Statistics Criminal Victimization, 2003, (September 2004)). Even though the 2001-2003 murder rate remained steady, death sentences continued their five-year decline in 2003.


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Home is where the homicide is:

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The UCR Program estimated that 16,503 murders occurred in the United States in 2003. This figure represents a 1.7-percent increase from the 2002 estimate.

Law enforcement agencies provided the UCR Program with supplementary data for 14,408 murders in 2003. These data showed that most murder victims (90.6 percent) were adults and most were males (77.6 percent). Of the male murder victims, 8.2 percent were juveniles (persons under the age of 18). Juvenile females comprised 13.5 percent of female murder victims nationwide.


By race, 48.7 percent of murder victims were white, 48.5 percent were black, and the remainder were of other races.

In 44.5 percent of murders, the relationship of the murder victim to the offender was unknown. Of the 55.5 percent of murders in which the victim/offender relationship was known, 77.6 percent of the victims knew their assailants.

In those murders for which law enforcement personnel reported victim and offender relationship data, 32.3 percent of females were killed by their husbands or boyfriends, and 2.5 percent of males were killed by their wives or girlfriends.

Of the murders involving a single victim and a single offender, 92.4 percent of black victims were killed by black offenders; 84.7 percent of white victims were killed by white offenders.

Of the murders in 2003 for which law enforcement identified the type of weapon, nearly 71 percent (70.9) involved firearms. Offenders used knives or cutting instruments in 13.4 percent of murders; personal weapons such as hands, fists, and feet in 7.0 percent of murders; and blunt objects in 4.8 percent of murders. Four percent of murders were committed with other types of weapons.

In 2003, law enforcement investigation was unable to determine the circumstance in 33.9 percent of murders in the Nation. The supplementary data also showed that more than 16 percent (16.4) of murders were committed during the commission of another felony such as during a robbery or a violation of a narcotic drug law.


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considering nearly the entire world is trying to immigrate here, it's no wonder we think that.

According to a recent poll, Canada is now the first country where people want to immigrate.

In many polled countries, the US often holds the second position. But Canada is clearly the first.

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I haven't been killed, nor have I ever seen a gun fired at another human being. Murder is almost non-existant in the U.S. Unless you are in a gang. Domestic murder happens sometimes. But random killings are very rare.


You are lucky. I have been shot at once and have had a pistol pulled on me two times.

The time I was shot at was by a farmer with a shotgun. Luckily it was only a warning shot and it was from a about 100 yards away.

The other time it was by thugs.

I was boy, with my brother and a friend. We were walking up this dirt road to go play in this abandoned house. The road was thickly wooded with dense underbrush on both sides. When we were about a quarter of a mile from the house we saw two men come out. They yelled something at us, jumped in their car and raced towards us. We ran and hid in some bushes. The thugs knew about where were, but didn't see which side of the road we hid on. I saw a large pistol in one on the men's hands. Luckily they went to the other side of the road and we got the hell outta there. I never ran so fast in all of my life.

The third time was by a cop. That was freaking scary. It's a long story and I'm not going to bother with it now.

I have had my pet cat shot and killed by some random pr*ck too.

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Then you'll remain there for life. If any other city outside Nevada aspires to be like Vegas, it pretty much means the Apocalypse is nigh.


your loss. Your pitiful cities will come no where near the money making capacity as mine.

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Give us your ranking, VJ. Come on, be a man.

Are you seriously trying to ridicule people from not blindly believing UNDP?

Do you have any idea what kind of countries make up the executive branch of that agency?

There have been this kind of rankings in the news' before. The problem with them is that they're all pretty subjective, since the creators of the list get to pick up what matters and what doesn't. UN bureaus tend to be professionals when it comes to knee-jerk anti-americanism.

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What happened to the Keynesians?


Hiding ever since Reagan took power, and only briefly emerged during Clinton's reign.

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Geneva ?

http://www.unog.ch/



http://geneva.usmission.gov/


Wrong.

Geneva does not house main body of the UN, that would be New York (the General Assembly, the Secretariat, and the Security Council). Geneva houses a plethora of other UN agencies like the ILO, WIPO, the WTO and well over another dozen which I am too lazy to remember. Countries assign an ambassador to Geneva which is called the "Permanent Representative to the United Nations and Other International Organizations" which is a different title from the "Permanent Representative to the United Nations" (the one in NYC).

I should know, my mother works there.

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Why would anyone not want to work in NYC? I dare anyone to find any good Uzbek food in Geneva. You can in NYC. We cater to everyone..if you got the money.

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Ask Boris. He moved out to Eugene.

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I think many Americans think the US is the best place to live because honestly, if you are rich, there is nowhere as good to live in as the US. Now, if you are poor, then you are out of luck, and if you are middle class, then things are OK, not the best. But all Americans fantasize about how they will be rich, and therefore, enjoy all the goodies America has to offer than top 5%.

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Think you got it on the money there Gepap. If I was well off American I'd think it'd be the place to live, if I was an unemployed african american from inner city Detroit, I might not. The reason a lot of European countries (and i am guessing places like Japan, Australia and New Zealand) might be ranked ahead of you is that the disparity between rich and poor is not as big.

Personally, if i had to pick a country to emigrate to it'd be New Zealand.

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Wrong.

Geneva does not house main body of the UN...
I should know, my mother works there.


Uh, yeah, I hadn't missed out on that aspect of geopolitics in my forty two years on earth.


It was in fact a joke- notice the smiley employed.

I've even been to San Francisco, where the U.N. began...

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Have you spoke with one of the numerous homeless people in NYC lately about how great the standard of living in the city is?


Have you learned to recognize blatant sarcasm?

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OK, wait a minute. According to Bureau of Justice Statistics 56% of victims had some sort of relationship with their murderers, but only 78% of these knew their murderers? Does this mean that 12% of all US murder victims had a relationship with their murderers but didn't know the murderer? How is this possible? Is there a large group of kids adopted at birth seeking out their birth parents and executing them or what? Are people going out and accidently slaughtering cousins they never met?

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Well, if a woman, her new husband, and their kids were all of sudden killed by the woman's ex-husband, then all of them were killed by someone with a relation to them (having been the wife and mother's ex-husband) even thought maybe only 1 of them actually knew the murderer.

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Dis, sorry to break the news but Finland is DEFINITELY better off than some isolated desert bling bling plastic city Las Vegas .

If you think Europe is like Sicily, one of the poorest areas in whole Europe, then good luck with that perception. I've actually been in US and touring a lot of it and seen it inside and have friends in there and also family.

FOr the most parts, it's boring. Nothing really there, but some parts are really nice. Just like Europe and everywhere else. Some sucks, some rule.

But if you have Las Vegas as your .. monitor.. I mean.. come on Dis, stop trolling.

Besides, LV is nothing. Go to Monte Carlo.

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Well I heard that New Hampshire is the best state to live in in the United States. Compare that to Norway.

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OK, wait a minute. According to Bureau of Justice Statistics 56% of victims had some sort of relationship with their murderers, but only 78% of these knew their murderers?


Would "next door neighbor" be a kind of relationship? What about second degree ones, such as girlfriend's former boyfriend, or husband's cousin?

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@ the Americans.

You live in a very poorly run society that is somewhat compensated for by being a large economy and controlling the world's reserve currency.

The causes of this are obvious to almost every non-American. This is why people think you are retarded. Jesus, you can't even provide health care to all your citizens - that makes you a third world country in my eyes.

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Jesus, you can't even provide health care to all your citizens - that makes you a third world country in my eyes.


This is why people think you are retarded.

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Who are you quoting, Kuci?

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Jesus, you can't even provide health care to all your citizens - that makes you a third world country in my eyes.


This is why people think you are retarded.


He's got a point

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Think you got it on the money there Gepap. If I was well off American I'd think it'd be the place to live, if I was an unemployed african american from inner city Detroit, I might not. The reason a lot of European countries (and i am guessing places like Japan, Australia and New Zealand) might be ranked ahead of you is that the disparity between rich and poor is not as big.


Pun intended?

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I wouldn't like to say...

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He's got a point


My remark might apply to you as well

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