08-09-2005 07:17									#481
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie I heard nothing about looters in Thailand after the Tsunami. And the rescue workers did not carry weapons. But on the other hand, only the 1-2 km next to the coast was affected, so most of the society was intact, which is not the case in US.

Sex slavers kidnapped many children who were standred/orphaned by the disaster. The joke about kidnapping good looking Swedes hits pretty close to the mark; Blondes were the slavers' favorite targets, as they are apparently worth more on the child sex slave market.

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Meanwhile, according to "The War Room" in today's Salon:

quote: The perfect storm? Ladies and gentlemen, we may actually witness Rush Limbaugh's head explode: We received an e-mail message today from Michael Moore, who informs us that Cindy Sheehan has dispatched Camp Casey to Louisiana to help provide the sort of hurricane relief that the "colossally inept and incompetent Bush administration" can't seem to deliver.

	08-09-2005 09:21									#483
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It's good to see that Mother Sheehan has realized that she needs to go to the cameras, as they're not coming to her anymore.

	08-09-2005 09:40									#484
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Well-known popinjay and vocal supporter of the Bush administration, Christopher Hitchens, has also criticised the hurricane response. Hitchens isn't really a Bush-supporter. ..that's about the only thing he agrees with Bush on.

Maybe you missed his long azz article that spends several paragraphs defending Bush entitled, "Unfairenheit 9/11: The Lies of Michael Moore"

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

	08-09-2005 09:46									#485
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So Hitchens thinks Fahrenheit 9/11 was a piece of garbage. Who doesn't?

	08-09-2005 09:46									#486
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Correcting Mr. Moore qualifies him as a Bush supporter?

I suppose that opposing unjust convictions makes you soft on crime then, yes?

	08-09-2005 09:49									#487
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quote: spends several paragraphs defending Bush

specifically

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Which ones are they?

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Probably the ones that say, "Bush" or the "the President" in them.

	08-09-2005 09:57									#490
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Seriously Ted, is that the best you can do?

edit:

quote: Although Hitchens finds himself defending Bush's foreign policy, he has little admiration for the man himself, in particular his support for 'intelligent design' and disdain of reading. As an anti-theist intellectual with a penchant for drinking, Hitchens was unimpressed by Bush's claim to have been 'saved from drink by Jesus."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens

Yeah, he's a real Bush fan...

	08-09-2005 09:58									#491
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I don't intend for you to understand right now Drake.

You're still in the denial stage.

	08-09-2005 10:15									#492
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Maybe you missed his long azz article that spends several paragraphs defending Bush entitled, "Unfairenheit 9/11: The Lies of Michael Moore" http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

Thanks for linking that. It's a good read.

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Hitchens said Al Zarqwari was in Iraq when discussing the arguments for invading. This is a half truth promoted by the Bushies, he was in Iraq. But they dont explain further, they just leave us with the impression (if not outright claim) Zarqwari was allied with Saddam. Zarqwari was in Northern Iraq in Kurdish lands under a no fly zone provided by us apparently training or associating with a Kurdish (terrorist) group. Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not, Hitchens is parroting the propaganda of the Bush people. Hitchens knows this stuff and I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt as to fact and motive.

Btw, Hitchens aint no neo-con nor has he embraced their ideology wrt foreign matters, he just hated Saddam and what we did to the Iraqi people and wants them free to set their own destiny.

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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Btw, Hitchens aint no neo-con nor has he embraced their ideology wrt foreign matters, he just hated Saddam and what we did to the Iraqi people and wants them free to set their own destiny.

Hitchens has embraced the general principle that the US can and should use its superior power -- economic, political, and military -- to topple dictators and forceably create democratic governments around the world. That's neo-conservativism (and, ironically, old-style British liberalism, of the sort most closely associated with Gladstone). Hitchens may not be a full-blown Bushie, but he's definitely a neo-con, at least with regard to foreign affairs (which I think is all that matters; I'm unaware of anything like a neo-con domestic agenda).

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Hitchens has definitely become a neo-con. He has said that his sympathies lie with Wolfowitz and other true neo-conservatives, despite his misgivings about Bush.

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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Seriously Ted, is that the best you can do? edit: quote: Although Hitchens finds himself defending Bush�fs foreign policy, he has little admiration for the man himself, in particular his support for �eintelligent design�f and disdain of reading. As an anti-theist intellectual with a penchant for drinking, Hitchens was unimpressed by Bush's claim to have been 'saved from drink by Jesus." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens Yeah, he's a real Bush fan...

If you, and the author of that wiki entry (who is just a normal guy like you and me) say so.

But I find it interesting the people that keep saying, "I'm not a Bush fan," but routinely defend him without question.



Come out of the closet already.

	08-09-2005 12:27									#497
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Cricky, if people nagged on Chamberlain as incessantly as they do on Bush, I'd start to say the simpleton wasn't all that bad.

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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Cricky, if people nagged on Chamberlain as incessantly as they do on Bush, I'd start to say the simpleton wasn't all that bad.

QFT

	08-09-2005 17:46									#499
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Damning with faint prainse, NYE.

Bush, the Chamberlin of our times.

	08-09-2005 17:51									#500
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I'm just thinking about the way the Republicans went after Clinton just for getting a blowjob during office hours...

Of course going after someone for a bit of extra-marital 'not quite sex' is FAR more important than investigating who ****ed up and allowed a massive mostly preventable national disaster to occur on their watch...

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Correction, MOBIUS. The natural disaster was not preventable. It was the human disaster that was preventable.

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This thread shall be closed.

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not before I POST

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Yep, reached 500, if anyone would like to start II, please feel free.