21-09-2005 06:12									#151
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Special offer for the US for Pre Order and EB Games is saying it ships on 24 October.

quote: Pre-order and receive the Civilization IV Pre-Order Edition! Pre-order customers only will receive the following: Collector’s case: Navy blue "leatherette" bookshelf case embossed with the Civilization IV logo. CD Soundtrack: Containing original compositions by Christopher Tin (http://christophertin.com/news.html) and Jeffrey Briggs (composer of Civilization II), as well as classical pieces throughout the ages. Keyboard template: A die-cut keyboard layout for quick reference to keyboard commands during the game. Tech Tree map: A foldout poster that displays the tech tree for ease of reference. A tech tree is a path you need to take with your scientific research in the game in order to reach certain goals. The path you take helps shape the society you create and help shapes you as a leader. Here’s an example: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3/techtree/ Spiral bound manual: The 250pp+ manual is upgraded from the standard perfect bound to a spiral bound version, allowing it to sit flat while open.

	21-09-2005 11:52									#152
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FINALLY ON AMAZON

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...polytonciv06-20

	21-09-2005 12:20									#153
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy, September 8th, 2005, 11:01AM It's good news. It means the game is finished. They would never move the games 2 weeks earlier for financial reasons since that would hardly give any financial benefits anyway. (half a year earlier would) If dates are pushed back, that means that things are wrong and they're working on it. In the end that means that you can never be sure that the game will be finished when it's released. There's an agreement between TTI and Firaxis, TTI can't simply say: "we want it two weeks earlier". This just means that Firaxis thinks it's finished. Which means that the game if finished when the developper thinks it's finished which is really really good. Oh, and of course it's even better that we get the game earlier!

	21-09-2005 13:08									#154
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quote: They would never move the games 2 weeks earlier for financial reasons since that would hardly give any financial benefits anyway.

actuallyit does have a financial benefit cause now the release is in this fiscal year (ending october 31) and not the next...

	21-09-2005 18:27									#155
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(thanks Andrian)

amaozn uk says october 21
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...olytoncivil-21/

it's a bit strange to have a date before the US one, but i believe all games are released on fridays in the UK....

	21-09-2005 20:48									#156
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So, now I only have to trick my wife into a romantic weekend in London around october 21st

	21-09-2005 20:54									#157
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Well, you could choose to take a trip to Norway, our largest gaming site has October 21st as release date.

	21-09-2005 22:10									#158
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy So, now I only have to trick my wife into a romantic weekend in London around october 21st

Why not have a "business-meeting" instead

	22-09-2005 06:23									#159
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Well, Amazon.co.uk has a different date than what is the official European release date. Take-Two Interactive has set 19th October as the final date.

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...y.php?id=125151

That will be on Tuesday in roughly one months time.

	22-09-2005 07:42									#160
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I'm not making the mistake of buying it blindly on the release date before the dust settles again... I'll wait at least a month before spending any $$$ on it, it usually takes a while before one can read some hype-free reviews from an excepted game.

	22-09-2005 12:15									#161
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civ1, civ2 and civ3 gave me that much entertainment that I'll buy civ4 - civ84 most obviously blindfolded.

	22-09-2005 12:54									#162
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You've just proven VJ's point.

	22-09-2005 13:37									#163
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his point is that the game may suck.
I don't believe the game will suck since neither civ1, civ2 nor civ3 sucked.

	22-09-2005 15:41									#164
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Buying a game prematurely isn't wise IMO. Even if it's all a player can ever wish for, there's always the possibility that it will simply refuse to run on your comp. Seen it happen enough.

	22-09-2005 16:08									#165
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Is there an "official" US release date??????

	22-09-2005 17:39									#166
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel This is bad news. If they're done early, then give them an extra month of debugging to make it even more solid. If this is just a moneygrab by the publisher......disaster looms....

Two weeks isn't going to make or break the bug fixing cycle since they've had private players actually helping beta the game for the past 2+ months.

Unlike Civ3 there were no mass defections on the production team and things haven't been as hectic for them. Since they are publishing with an "in house" company they will be able to release bug fixes and patches much quicker than when they had to ask permision from Infogrames/Atari.

As I said, two whole weeks isn't going to mean much when the product has been in development for 2+ years. Or at least it shouldn't.

	22-09-2005 18:21									#167
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quote: Originally posted by Ozymandous they've had private players actually helping beta the game for the past 2+ months.

actually a lot more than 2+

	22-09-2005 18:31									#168
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG actually a lot more than 2+

True, but I couldn't remember exactly how long but I knew it was longer than 2 months. :P

It's been long enough that I hope they'd have most of the major bugs out by the time it ships and the balance fairly well developed, especially if they had players like Sirian, Sulla, and various others helping.

	22-09-2005 19:23									#169
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quote: Originally posted by Ozymandous Since they are publishing with an "in house" company they will be able to release bug fixes and patches much quicker than when they had to ask permision from Infogrames/Atari.

Hmmm, isn't Take2 involved into the process? Official Civ IV site is not in Firaxis hands... (hint, hint...).

	23-09-2005 00:48									#170
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 Is there an "official" US release date??????

acording to the preorder box sitting on the shelf at EB


Nov 16

official enough ?