18-09-2005 21:06									#121
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the estimated date or did take2 tell them that?

	18-09-2005 21:11									#122
	Re: Pushed back a month?!? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by DKDiveDude A few days ago I got an email from EB Games saying that the delivery date of my CIV IV had been pushed back by the publisher to mid November. Damn.

On the contrary, we got to know a few days ago that the publishing date has been moved forward a few weeks from November to late October.(that's what this thread is all about btw)

	18-09-2005 21:19									#123
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quote: Pushed back a month?!?

not true

	18-09-2005 21:58									#124
	Re: Re: Pushed back a month?!? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by Nikolai On the contrary, we got to know a few days ago that the publishing date has been moved forward a few weeks from November to late October.(that's what this thread is all about btw)

All I know is what EB Games wrote me:

"Thanks for pre-ordering from EBgames.com! As an added benefit to ordering from us, we’ll keep you informed of ship date changes. We are writing to let you know that we have changed the projected ship date for Civilization IV to 11/15/2005. The publisher did not provide us with a specific date so this is our best estimate only and should not be considered firm. We will update this date again as we receive new information. As always, EBgames.com will not charge your credit card until we ship your order."

And regarding your comment about what this thread is about. Yes I can read! Also why I thought the notification from EB Games was important in this thread!

	18-09-2005 22:01									#125
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Nothing to celebrate... yet.

	18-09-2005 22:07									#126
	Put an end to popups!

DONT BELIEVE EB GAMES AUTOMATED MAILS

a couple of days ago we had two people recieve mails from EB with two different dates on the same day....

	18-09-2005 22:20									#127
	Re: Re: Re: Pushed back a month?!? Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by DKDiveDude All I know is what EB Games wrote me:

As Markos said, don't trust them.

quote: And regarding your comment about what this thread is about. Yes I can read! Also why I thought the notification from EB Games was important in this thread!

Now, now, calm down. It was a joke.

	19-09-2005 00:39									#128
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

This could mean one of two things. Either the game is much more polished then they thought or (more likely) they want to release it at the very beginning of November so the intial sales rush slows down and supplies in stories are rebuilt up for the Christmas buying season.

I think the second is more likely and that the big issue is getting it on the shelves for the full Christmas buying season even if lopping off a few weeks or months of development means the game is released in an unpolished state. More then ever I am glad I have not pre-ordered. If it is buggy and unfinished (like Civ3 was) then I will not be buying until after several patches have been released and then only if people I trust give it good reviews.

	19-09-2005 08:50									#129
	Got spare money?

Indeed, I am going to try to wait a month or so after it's released, and come back here to read what others who will have already owned the game, have to say about Civ IV.

If a lot of them will be demanding a much needed patch upon reading these future posts, then I might wait even longer, until that patch is fully available.

	19-09-2005 14:58									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin This could mean one of two things. Either the game is much more polished then they thought or (more likely) they want to release it at the very beginning of November so the intial sales rush slows down and supplies in stories are rebuilt up for the Christmas buying season.

No, it means Take-Two is having a very, very poor fiscal year (ends Oct 31) due to the Hot Coffee fiasco and wants to use Civ4 pre-order sales to save it. It's not a coincidence that this news coincided with the announcement of a US-only pre-release special edition...

That said, we know Firaxis have been polishing the game for over 2 months already, with another month or so to go. I suspect that pushing up the date 2 weeks isn't gonna make *that* huge a difference.

	19-09-2005 20:59									#131
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24th March 2006 AMAZON UK

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...9702034-1503064


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Can someone please confirm me this is a mistake.

	19-09-2005 21:16									#132
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

quote: Originally posted by Zero Call of duty - 0ct 25 Quake 4 - Oct 18 Soul Cali 3 - Oct 25 Wild Arms: Alter Code F - Oct 25 F.E.A.R - Oct 18 AOE 3 - Oct 18 6 games totalling about $300.... Civ 4 just became unaffordable.

Other games?

	19-09-2005 21:24									#133
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Yes the expansion pack tor Rome Total War: Barbarian Invasion. 16 GBP 27th September

Aswell as Star Wars Battlegrounds II in October-November IIRC.

	19-09-2005 21:46									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Drakan Can someone please confirm me this is a mistake.

I can. So can most others.

	19-09-2005 22:29									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Drakan 24th March 2006 AMAZON UK Can someone please confirm me this is a mistake.

Yes, the correct date is 24th March 2007... common mistake by amazon

	20-09-2005 01:46									#137
	Remove this text

reconfirm all hopes by listening to the Jeff Briggs interview

he says when himself

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy...oniv/media.html

	20-09-2005 13:01									#138
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from the news

quote: The official release date of Civilization IV`s German version has been set by publisher Take-Two Interactive (TTI). While TTI's website is listing November of this year, fellow CivIV fansite civilized.de is indicating the specific date as being November 4th. CivIV will be one of the titles marketed under TTI`s subsidiary 2K Games label. The German version's suggested retail price is 49.95€.

http://www.take2.de/index.php?p=games&title=civ4

	20-09-2005 13:58									#139
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Phew !

	20-09-2005 14:07									#140
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Good news.

Even though €50 is a pretty high price for a PC game, I am sure, it will be well worth it.

	20-09-2005 16:09									#141
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Sir Ralph, pretty much every newly released game is around 50€. This also hasn't changed for quite a while. I know I bought Gothic II for 50€ and back in the old days I saw a box of Civilization (II) for 700 ATS (= 50€)

Btw, do you officially put the euro sign at the front or the back?

	20-09-2005 16:27									#142
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Lucky bastards... In Norway, a typical PC game costs €64.(with current change value)

	20-09-2005 16:46									#143
	Suffering from ads?

On average 50€ in Spain (just to rub it in Nikolai )

	20-09-2005 17:00									#144
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Over here, usually the 'official' retail price is about €50, but in reality you can get it for €40-45, usually even cheaper through www.gcshop.nl 'cuz they're non-profit (e.g. they have Fable Lost Chapter for just €35 and FEAR for €36,50 -- Civ4 still isn't listed).

	20-09-2005 17:18									#145
	Suffering from ads?

Ferenginar has pointed me out that Amazon UK has changed -yet again- this morning the release date to 21st October 2005

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...9702034-1503064

Civilization IV (PC)
Other products by Take 2 Interactive

RRP: £39.99
Our Price: £24.99
You Save: £15.00 (37%)

Platform: Windows XP
This item will be released on October 21, 2005. You may order it now and we will dispatch it to you when we receive it from our supplier. Please note that release dates are subject to change.

	20-09-2005 17:29									#146
	Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by Drakan On average 50€ in Spain (just to rub it in Nikolai )

Shut up!
The only games that I've seen begin at a lower price, is Paradox's games, which usually can be bought for €51. And that's the minumum if you want a game when it's released... BTW, what's the price for newly released expansion packs then? Here's it's usually €38.

	20-09-2005 17:31									#147
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa Btw, do you officially put the euro sign at the front or the back?

In front is the proper way, but most people are still used putting it behind like with the old currencies.

	20-09-2005 17:37									#148
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Hmm, xpacks are "expensive", around 30-40€

	20-09-2005 17:40									#149
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Good news. Even though €50 is a pretty high price for a PC game, I am sure, it will be well worth it.

No, I'm not. Civ III was less expensive, and usually a TBS it's considered a "niche" game.
About 39 euro should be a fair price, IMHO, considering that a "milking cow" expansion is already on the way with "new civilization, new map, new units".

	21-09-2005 06:09									#150
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From Amazon USA:

quote: Availability: This item will be released on November 14, 2005. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.