13-09-2005 22:34									#1
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When was the last time you heard a politician take responsibility for anything?

quote: Bush said Tuesday that "I take responsibility" for failures in dealing with Hurricane Katrina

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050913...rina_washington

	13-09-2005 22:36									#2
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Nixon... when he resigned.

	13-09-2005 22:38									#3
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He says he takes responsibility. So what does this mean in reality? What's he going to do?

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Shouldn't this entail some sort of penalty? Otherwise, it's pretty ****ing meaningless.

Imagine if I ran over someone after DUI, and would get off by saying "I take responsibility", for example.

	13-09-2005 22:38									#5
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he should do another fly over

	13-09-2005 22:39									#6
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Already posted.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...629#post4009629

Now, he should do another "I take repsonsibility" for his mishandling of Iraq.

	13-09-2005 22:40									#7
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Actually, he said he took responsibility for failures of the federal response to the emergency, and rightly so. He does not accept blame for state and local failures to the emergency (of which there were many), and rightly so.

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quote: Originally posted by Az Shouldn't this entail some sort of penalty? Otherwise, it's pretty ****ing meaningless. Imagine if I ran over someone after DUI, and would get off by saying "I take responsibility", for example.

well..by your "laughing smiley" means something is wrong with you for laughing at being drunk and running over someone..

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quote: Originally posted by ajbera Actually, he said he took responsibility for failures of the federal response to the emergency, and rightly so. He does not accept blame for state and local failures to the emergency (of which there were many), and rightly so.

excellent points

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Yes. It is Az's fault

	13-09-2005 22:45									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll well..by your "laughing smiley" means something is wrong with you for laughing at being drunk and running over someone..

No need to lecture me about the danger of DUI drivers, GT. My cousin died because one of them.

	13-09-2005 22:53									#13
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The point is that he admitted he was wrong. That is a rare thing among polititians today. They make mistakes all the time, but getting one to admit it would be damn near impossible.

As for penalties, why? There will be repurcussions of the statement, i'm sure. I like it that when a man steps up and admits wrongdoing, you want to slap a punishment on him, but you don't say anything about all of the people who screw up and won't admit it

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quote: That is a rare thing among polititians today.

Not amongst those that don't have to face any consequences. Then, they knowt that people will give them credit, and have no problem admitting it. But it's still a good thing, better than nothing, yes.

	13-09-2005 23:03									#15
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Good for him. Once someone takes some blame, it makes it easier to focus on fixing the problem.

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This is what's wrong with America. Don't take me wrong, it's not all wrong, but this is ONE thing that's weird.

President says, finally, that he takes responsibility. Everyone is like yeaaah that's right wohoo glad he does this yeah here's 5 stars and 10 points.

It's as if you expect the worst all the time, and then reward someone for doign the trivial thing? Is this how low your expectations are? And if so, maybe it's a sign that sometihng IS wrong and something should be done to make it right?

With requirements like this, I can be the president of the century. Well not really, but you guys get my point.

	13-09-2005 23:22									#17
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kudos to Bush for finally taking responsibility... it took long enough...

but as Az said, if there aren't consequences, or any kind of accountability, it is pretty meaningless.

btw, can the right wingers now STFU with the "OMFG YOU ARE BLAMING BUSH" now? because now Bush has blamed bush,

kthx

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There's a Greek letter missing in the thread title...

	13-09-2005 23:57									#19
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Now we can spam as much as we like, Az takes on all the responisibilty.

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Yeah. I take full responsibility.

	14-09-2005 00:21									#21
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+0

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attack the spam not the spammer!

	14-09-2005 00:34									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak The point is that he admitted he was wrong.

No he didn't. He said he takes full responsibility (for the failures of the Federal government). He's saying that other people's screwups are his responsibility as boss. Rightly so. As President, he is responsible. Kudos for him, it's the first time he taken responsibility for anything that's gone wrong under his watch. I'm glad he said it.

I don't see anything in that article about Bush talking about the mistakes he made, though. That would be admitting he was wrong.

So, again, Bush gets credit for stepping up and taking responsiblity as boss , but don't give him credit for what he didn't do.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava kudos to Bush for finally taking responsibility... it took long enough... but as Az said, if there aren't consequences, or any kind of accountability, it is pretty meaningless. btw, can the right wingers now STFU with the "OMFG YOU ARE BLAMING BUSH" now? because now Bush has blamed bush, kthx

well its obvious that he just hates freedom and America

	14-09-2005 01:03									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha well its obvious that he just hates freedom and America

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There is a p and an i missing from the thread title

	14-09-2005 01:49									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Az No need to lecture me about the danger of DUI drivers, GT. My cousin died because one of them.

Well..I am not lecturing although I did work as a Traffic Officer in both Military Police and Bureau of Indian Affairs so yes I have some experience arresting and also delivering a somber message to a family in the middle of the night

again, not lecturing and in light of your experience could not understand what was funny

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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll Well..I am not lecturing although I did work as a Traffic Officer in both Military Police and Bureau of Indian Affairs so yes I have some experience arresting and also delivering a somber message to a family in the middle of the night again, not lecturing and in light of your experience could not understand what was funny

I think Az was laughing at symbolism of Bush's meaningless acceptance of responsibility... not killing someone in a drunk driving accident.

	14-09-2005 01:57									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I think Az was laughing at symbolism of Bush's meaningless acceptance of responsibility... not killing someone in a drunk driving accident.

fair enough

	14-09-2005 03:11									#30
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suprisingly enough, sava got it.