21-09-2005 07:54									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker I hope it turns north and hits where Katrina hit

	21-09-2005 08:23									#62
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is there any particular reason berzerker is being an ass and talking out of it at the same time??

	21-09-2005 08:43									#63
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Well, think about it... NO is already completely fubarred... may as well throw a brick at a broken window than a fresh one.

	21-09-2005 08:52									#64
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quote: Well, think about it... NO is already completely fubarred... may as well throw a brick at a broken window than a fresh one.

	21-09-2005 08:53									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Kalius Well, think about it... NO is already completely fubarred... may as well throw a brick at a broken window than a fresh one.

isnt that like aying might as well kick them when they are down?? Texas isnt as suspectiable to a disater as that magnatide. The worst hit will be the refineriers then the coast. the floods we might face i can assume will not even compare to that of no

	21-09-2005 08:57									#66
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They're down, why have millions more join them?

	21-09-2005 09:10									#67
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Having lived in texas all my life we have never had a hurricane level a city like that did to no and it wasnt only katrina that leveled the city by the way. It was the ridiculous levves they had in place that most intelligent folks knew would fail. I see ur logic as why not beat a dead horse but that does really nobody any good when you have folks in both cities and states

	21-09-2005 09:29									#68
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The hurricane is going to hit. It's a case of minimising damage, and frankly I think if there is going to be x dollars spent on Katrina, and y dollars spent on Rita, I'd rather have x+y needing to be spent in one area where relief effort can be localised, rather than spread it over 3 or 4 states and the entire Gulf Coast.

	21-09-2005 09:59									#69
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steamrolling 300 miles of coastline is not preferable to steamrolling the same 150 mile coastline twice in a month. Sorry for being such an ass

Maybe it will help make more people wake up to reality - building below sea level near a coast regularly visited by hurricanes is unwise. But I've seen some of these levees that broke and I was not impressed with their construction. They need massive earthen damns, not thin walls of steel or reinforced concrete. But the politicos down there have been wasting federal money on pork just like their uncles in Washington. NO flooded because crooks are running the show


Another triumph of big government

	21-09-2005 10:25									#70
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I agree with Berzerker. It may seem cruel but the damage is already done in that section of the lower states. And if you think that Rita won't make it to cat 5 with nothing between it and Texas but warm Gulf waters, well then I've got a bridge in NO to sell you.
Don't think NO, think Biloxi when Rita makes landfall.

	21-09-2005 10:29									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker steamrolling 300 miles of coastline is not preferable to steamrolling the same 150 mile coastline twice in a month. Sorry for being such an ass Maybe it will help make more people wake up to reality - building below sea level near a coast regularly visited by hurricanes is unwise. But I've seen some of these levees that broke and I was not impressed with their construction. They need massive earthen damns, not thin walls of steel or reinforced concrete. But the politicos down there have been wasting federal money on pork just like their uncles in Washington. NO flooded because crooks are running the show Another triumph of big government

well dam when you put it that way who the hell am i to argue

	21-09-2005 10:32									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Theben I agree with Berzerker. It may seem cruel but the damage is already done in that section of the lower states. And if you think that Rita won't make it to cat 5 with nothing between it and Texas but warm Gulf waters, well then I've got a bridge in NO to sell you. Don't think NO, think Biloxi when Rita makes landfall.

Hey theben i need to speak to you bout that ocean front property in arizona u sold me I want a dam refund

	21-09-2005 10:50									#73
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Ah, a convert to Berzopia

But there's a reason the American midwest is a breadbasket for the world as are the peoples and lands in the line of typhoons, etc... Kansas has to suffer tornadoes in exchange for food, without the aerial conflict of cooler drier air coming down off the Rockies and moist gulf winds which produces tornadoes we'd suffer far worse droughts. Hurricanes bring much needed moisture during the hottest months of the year as harvest time approaches.

	21-09-2005 16:15									#74
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The worst NO will get is some heavy rainfall and some possible topping up of flood waters.

Landfall between Matagorda and Freeport.

	21-09-2005 16:16									#75
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BTW, why are the sea surface termperatures so high this year?

	21-09-2005 16:31									#76
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Increased solar activity, natural weather cycles, manmade global greenhouse gases, cumulative effects of deforestation, desertification, and cities - choose none, one, some, or all as your political persuasion dictates.

	21-09-2005 16:53									#77
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You forgot the wrath o' God!

	21-09-2005 17:22									#78
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She's now a Category 4.

	21-09-2005 17:53									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue BTW, why are the sea surface termperatures so high this year?

Global Warming

	21-09-2005 18:38									#80
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I'm so glad I didnt take a job in NO or Galveston (which is about to disappear). So glad!

	21-09-2005 20:20									#81
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Galveston, for the most part, should be okay. After the hurricane of 1900, the city built a big sea wall, and that should protect the town itself. The south end of the island, however, may be in for a rougher show.

	21-09-2005 21:25									#82
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It's been a while since I was there but I dont think any walls were built to survive a 20ft storm surge.

	21-09-2005 23:09									#83
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I havent been to galveston since i was a kid either. Tuber thinks this thing will hit cat 5 by the end of the week when it is supposed to slam the coast. I am not sure if texas has been slammed by a cat 5 hurricane before id hope to think measures are being taken to avoid the catastophic events that katrina caused

	21-09-2005 23:23									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Arent they over-reacting because of Katrina? Rita is not even a hurricane and everyone are talking about evacuation.

In some cases, yes. Our public services were shut down yesterday, even though the storm wasn't even that close. Went to the beach and saw some impressive waves, got a little rained on, but for the most part were unaffected. Cable went out, which means no internet or phone either. Power stayed on and didn't even flicker.

However, parts of the Keys were underwater, and that was only a glancing blow. A direct hit, even by a minimal storm is not something you want to experience on an island only a few feet above the high tide level. Also, there's only one way out of the islands by car; a very long series of bridges from Key West to Miami. Evacuations take a lot of time there.

	21-09-2005 23:36									#85
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The last Cat 5 to hit Texas was the Galveston storm of 1900. Theben is correct, think of Biloxi, not NOLA. Galveston Bay is a wide area which narrows, meaning lots of water can be forced in, but it has no where to go. That means a big and fast surge.

If you are there, get out.

Ben, being inland will not help necessarily. Of the 400 people killed by the 1938 Long Island Express, 200 of them were inland, including some in Canada. Many people die insland from these storms because of flash floods and swollen rivers.

	22-09-2005 00:00									#86
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I tried to explain that to BK guess he didnt get it. About the flooding that sa will see from this. Any how Imnot really worried so much of the flooding, though we will see some, the scary thing is the city doesnt close down for heavy heavy rains and the drivers out here dont know how to drive in the rain. My perdiction is if we get that much rain we will see more deaths due to car accidents then from flooding

	22-09-2005 00:11									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Odin Global Warming

From a message board:

quote: An even better argument against global warming and hurricanes can be found in the Aug 2005 edition of National Geographic (no global warming sceptics they). On pp. 78-79 there is a chart showing ocean temperatures from 1944 to present. Between 1944 and 1961 temperatures were elevated and this corresponded to an increase in the frequency of major hurricanes. Between 1961 and 1994, ocean temps dropped significantly with a corresponding decrease in hurricane intensity. Since 1995, temperatures have again increased to where they were in the 1944-61 time period with another increase in hurricane severity. How this pattern argues for global warming being a factor is beyond me. As the article in National Geographic states: "...many scientists agree that the present hurricane surge is likely part of a 60- to 70-year cycle that changes the strength of ocean currents distributing heat around the globe."

	22-09-2005 00:16									#88
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I'd guess you're gonna get more than just rain and flooding. This thing will be bigger than Katrina (if not more powerful). We are about the same distance from the coast as SA (I think) and the eye was 100-150 miles west of us as it came north and we still lost our roof.

	22-09-2005 00:20									#89
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You lost your roof from this rita hurricane??
or the katrina?

	22-09-2005 00:49									#90
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Who is the actin idiot of fema??? he is on public confrence say **** like board up your homes take care of your homes put u patio furniture indoors like this isnt common knowledge, Most classic idiotic remark he says is "get you pets out of your yards and by the way dont leave them in your boarded up houses" Oh yeah like folks will leave fideo, with a 20 lb bag of dog kibble and a gallon of water, in a boarded up house in the middle of a hurricane.. How dumb is this guy?