22-09-2005 01:23									#91
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Looks like I'll have to change the CD in my player from "New Orleans Jazz Funeral" to Steve Ray Vaughn's "Texas Flood".
My cousin lives in Dallas, but I suppose that is pretty safe as long as you stay indoors.

Meanwhile in Bangladesh:

quote: More than 50 people have been killed and many are unaccounted for in fierce storms and flooding that have hit the Bay of Bengal since the weekend. Officials in Bangladesh believe scores of fishermen may be missing. Indian authorities say dozens were killed and hundreds are missing in Andhra Pradesh state. More than 140,000 have been evacuated there after rains swelled rivers and inundated villages, disrupting roads, trains and power supplies. ---

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4266580.stm

	22-09-2005 01:35									#92
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Category 5.

This one's a big mother.

	22-09-2005 01:48									#93
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quote: Ben, being inland will not help necessarily. Of the 400 people killed by the 1938 Long Island Express, 200 of them were inland, including some in Canada. Many people die insland from these storms because of flash floods and swollen rivers.

Well I don't really understand. We don't get many hurricanes up in Northern Canada, where I am from, so I don't know what that's like.

But if this is a class 5,

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You're not from Northern Canada, Ben.

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quote: I'd guess you're gonna get more than just rain and flooding. This thing will be bigger than Katrina (if not more powerful). We are about the same distance from the coast as SA (I think) and the eye was 100-150 miles west of us as it came north and we still lost our roof.

Whoa, that's not good.

	22-09-2005 01:51									#96
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quote: You're not from Northern Canada, Ben.

Only town bigger then mine at a more northerly latitude is Edmonton.

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quote: the scary thing is the city doesnt close down for heavy heavy rains and the drivers out here dont know how to drive in the rain. My perdiction is if we get that much rain we will see more deaths due to car accidents then from flooding

Very true. The SA drivers don't know how to drive in inclement weather. It's horrible.

	22-09-2005 01:57									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Only town bigger then mine at a more northerly latitude is Edmonton.

Edmonton's not in Northern Canada either.

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It is now a cat 5 but the forcasters sayit will down grade as soon as it get closer to land cause of the shallow waters on the coast lines. now I am no meterologist but i hope they is right. Last time a storm of lesser magnitude hit sa flooded bad. The city was pretty much held at a stand still for a day and caused over 5 million in damage. Course this is nothing compared to what the coast is to expect

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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Only town bigger then mine at a more northerly latitude is Edmonton.

Given that most of Canada's urban centres are clustered in the south, I don't think that makes you northern Canada-- heck I don't even consider Edmonton to be northern Canada given the expanse to the north of it. If Edmonton is northern Canada what does that make Iuktoyuktuk, Iqualiut, Nunavut etc

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski You lost your roof from this rita hurricane?? or the katrina?

katrina, winds here were still 50-60 (and gusts higher than that) as it passed 100 miles from Birmingham.

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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Given that most of Canada's urban centres are clustered in the south, I don't think that makes you northern Canada-- heck I don't even consider Edmonton to be northern Canada given the expanse to the north of it. If Edmonton is northern Canada what does that make Iuktoyuktuk, Iqualiut, Nunavut etc

Here's my rule of thumb: if somebody claims to come from Northern Canada and they're not Inuit then they're lying.

	22-09-2005 02:15									#103
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quote: Given that most of Canada's urban centres are clustered in the south, I don't think that makes you northern Canada-- heck I don't even consider Edmonton to be northern Canada given the expanse to the north of it. If Edmonton is northern Canada what does that make Iuktoyuktuk, Iqualiut, Nunavut etc

Prince George is considered part of northern British Columbia. Certainly, we are not part of the arctic, but we live further north then the vast majority of people do in Canada.

	22-09-2005 02:16									#104
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You might be from Northern BC. Not Northern Canada.

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Well, it certainly isn't like Vancouver, either. But then again, nowhere else in Canada is like Vancouver.

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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH katrina, winds here were still 50-60 (and gusts higher than that) as it passed 100 miles from Birmingham.

Wholly shittte Not good.
The folks in sa were told to go out and get supplies and stuff we would need to wait the storm out. Guess i should start finding all my candles and flashligts hell in our apts the power goes out in a regular storm cant magaine what the after math of a hurricane will do

	22-09-2005 03:27									#107
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This is why I had stated earlier...its not too early to evacuate..granted this storm possibly could lessen somewhat but still.. ya got them Tornados and all the rain associated with this storm

I feel for ya and hope any in its path make it safely


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People are evacuating now and have been for a while. The main two highways out, I-10 and I-45 are incredibly slow right now though.

CNN is reporting it's the 3rd most powerful hurricane ever.

And it's apparently getting worse.

	22-09-2005 05:38									#109
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Last year florida, this year the gulf coast....

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God is showing his anger at the red states!!!!

	22-09-2005 05:55									#111
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Katrina created a wedge of destruction from Gulf Coast to Tennesee, covering most of the state of Mississippi.

GePap, last year was unusual with the number of storms that hit Florida. Even in decades of lots of storms, that normally doesn't happen. The two areas of the U.S. that are most frequently hit by hurricanes are North Carolina and Texas.

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The only reason I said at least a Category 3, instead of a Category 4 or 5, is because of the routine loss of a level of severity while making landfall. A storm surge the size of Katrina's would top the seawall there by several feet.

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quote: Originally posted by GePap Last year florida, this year the gulf coast....

We had Ivan last year that destroyed the Florida/Alabama gulf coast.

	22-09-2005 06:48									#114
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I saw on CNN a little while ago that current projections have it still as a full-blown hurricane by the time it reaches Austin.

	22-09-2005 06:50									#115
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Not another one...

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wow the weather folks dont think its gonna weaken to nothing beyond a 4 again. Guess wall the folks that are closer then us is get the hell out and the rest of us sit tight

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quote: many scientists agree that the present hurricane surge is likely part of a 60- to 70-year cycle that changes the strength of ocean currents distributing heat around the globe."

Which is probably part of some other longer cycle, we just dont know much about long term atmospheric processes. But we have figured out the ice is likely to return.

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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP Not another one...

It's still September. We may see another storm before the end of the month, and then we still have two more months to go. August, September, and October are the worst months for cyclones in the North Atlantic. I think we'll see a Hurricane Alpha before the end of the year.

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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki I saw on CNN a little while ago that current projections have it still as a full-blown hurricane by the time it reaches Austin.

That's not unpreceidented, though it will upset my friends who just sold their house here and are moving to Austin.

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Since I do this for a living (aviation weather) here goes (bold three periods were added by me, the other three periods are just how they write them, nothing is edited in those sections):

quote: Hurrican Rita Intermediate Advsisory Number 17 2100Z WED SEP 21 2005 ... Because Rita will be crossing an area of high heat content during the next 12 to 24 hours...it is expected that the hurricane will maintain its strength. Therafter...the ocean heat content is not as high and the intensity changes will be controlled mainly by eyewall replacement cycles and decreasing heat content. Some weakening is anticipated but Rita is forecast to make landfall as a mjor hurricane...at least category three. ... ... Extended Outlook. Note...errors for track have averaged near 250 NM on day 4 and 325 nm on day 5...and for intenisty near 20 kt each day. ...

I had to manually retype this, I cannot get a link on the web. Note the errors, however, the NOAA has vastly improved its hurricane tracking forecasts over the last decade. Intensity forecasts have not improved to the same degree. To translate - this means that they are much more likely to accurately place landfall than they are intensity at landfall.