05-07-2000 04:26									#1
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Since i've never played a multiplayer game i have no idea how to start it or join one.

I have very little expirience in SMAC(X) and looking for some 'less' skilled players (such as myself) to earn some.

I am open to negotiate about all settings,but i would like to play on Transcend level.

In Civ2 MP there are ALOT of loopholes and bugs which could be exploited. I am pretty much sure that SMAC(X) also have some. I don't know for any (don't even want to know) so i'll not use them and i expect same from my respectful opponents.

Regards.

SF



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	05-07-2000 20:54									#2
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Hi,
I've never played PBEM either and I would really like to play one. I think the way it is done is when you start a PBEM (go to MP then Hotseat/PBEM option), when you finish your turn, you exit then send the save to the next player whose turn is up.
Transcend is fine. I like a standard size random map, standard rules. But we can arrange for different settings if you prefer. It doesn't really matter to me.
If you pick an Alien Crossfire game, I would like to play as Cyborgs. If it's an Alpha Centauri game, I would like to be PK.

my e-mail is mbrownin@seidata.com

I hope we can play. If you are uncertain as to how to start a PBEM game and you want me to start, just send me your e-mail.

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	06-07-2000 09:59									#3
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I'd be willing to join, too. Never played a PBEM game, but I'm good in singleplayer (hard not to be ).

E-mail is forumemail@aol.com

	05-07-2000 22:08									#4
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Cool!
Welcome aboard Nicholas!
I think that the more human players are in the game, the more fun the game will be.

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	06-07-2000 01:41									#5
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Cool.

My adress is in my profile.

When do you guys wanna start this one?

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	06-07-2000 05:14									#6
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I am ready.
do we agree on the settings?
-transcend
-random map
-standard size map
-standard rules

do we want the original factions or the SMACX factions?
And who will play which faction?

I can set the game up if that's ok with everyone.


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	06-07-2000 05:59									#7
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I suggest we start tomorrow. I have Civ2 MP starting in 15 mins and i wont be able to load SMAC(X) simultaneously.
I have planetary pack,but i never tried it so i suggest normal AC game with no reloading under any circumstances (if you get mindworms from pod,deal with it).
I'll pick Morgan if possible.
We still need confirmation from Nicolas.
You may start a game and send me a file,but i wont be able to reply in next 5-6 hours.

I agree with proposed settings,Nicolas?

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	06-07-2000 08:00									#8
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Yeah, rules are fine. I'll take hive, either smac or smacx is good for me.

	06-07-2000 17:43									#9
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I set up the game as we agreed. It is a SMAC game so be sure to load up SMAC not SMACX!

Just to reiterate:
I'm Lal of PK, Nicholas is Yang of the Hive and SmartFart is in as Morgan.

It's the Hive's turn so I sent the save to Nicholas.

If we have any problems, we can discuss it here.


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[This message has been edited by The diplomat (edited July 06, 2000).]

	06-07-2000 20:32									#10
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My secondary adress is emperoratrix@mailcity.com if 1st one doesn't working but it should be.



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	06-07-2000 23:31									#11
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Sorry guys. My CD is scratched to hell and my drive won't recognize it. I tried to find a cd crack but there don't seem to be any for version 5.0, and no warez copy either. I did manage to find a CD crack for TerranX, so I could do a game of smacX. If you guys don't want to do smacx, feel free to find a replacement for me.

	07-07-2000 01:12									#12
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OK.

Is there a way to keep Progenitors out from the game to get rid ot their additional victory condition?

I guess Diplomat need to start a new game.
I'll stick to the Morganites again.

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	07-07-2000 03:17									#13
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Nicholas: I am sorry to hear about your cd getting all scratched up.

I am willing to play SMACX. I actually prefer it to the original SMAC because of the new techs and SP's.

SmartFart: Do you want to try a game of SMACX?

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[This message has been edited by The diplomat (edited July 06, 2000).]

	07-07-2000 03:31									#14
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I am glad that everything is ok!
I will set up a game of Alien Crossfire but with the original factions so that the Progenitors won't be in it and we will be able to play the factions we wanted.
I need to redownload the patch for SMACX which will take about 30 mn. As soon as that is done I will start the game.

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	07-07-2000 04:06									#15
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MY 2101.
sent to Hive.

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	07-07-2000 05:52									#16
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Patch?

Err..i didn't knew patch is needed to play SMACX.
Where can i download it and which one is newest?

	07-07-2000 06:34									#17
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Go to www.firaxis.com/smac

in the download section, all the way on the bottom of the page, look for the alien crossfire patch "smacx v2.0". It enables some of the new factions abilities that were not working (the cyborgs' techsteal and the drones facrion ability to convert revolting bases for example were not working). The patch also fixes a bunch of other stuff.
You might already have it and don't know it. Did the Cyborgs techsteal work when you played smacx? If so, you probably have the patch.



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	07-07-2000 06:49									#18
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I don't know. I bought myself a game where i have both SMAC and SMACX on the same CD.
Box have 'Dutch version' sticker on it,but everything inside is pretty much in english,xcept Alien Crossfire manual which,beside english part,also have dutch and greek translation (how useful ).
Haven't tried SMACX yet so am not sure if patch is planted on it or not.

Anyway...am d/l-ing patch now. 4,89 MB already done.

	07-07-2000 23:29									#19
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Still waiting for my 1st multiplayer turn.

With tremendeous speed we exchanging game files,i expect we could finish this game approximately same year when real human colonist arrive in orbit of Alpha Centauri

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	07-07-2000 23:53									#20
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Turn to smartfart @ smartfart@pulpfiction.com

	08-07-2000 02:26									#21
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Turn complete. Back to Lal.

	08-07-2000 02:49									#22
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SmartFart: I got your email but there is no attachment! Did you forget to include the save game as an attachment? If you did send the attachment, then maybe Outlook Express blocked it. It is not suppose to, but you never know with Microsoft software
You can try mbrownin@yahoo.com if the problem is with my Outlook Express.

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	08-07-2000 03:30									#23
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Please check your mail again.
My primary e-mail provider is very slow recently and if this one works i would like to recieve future files on emperoratrix@mailcity.com

	08-07-2000 04:25									#24
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Outlook Express received the attachment perfectly.

Sent to Hive. MY 2102.



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	08-07-2000 04:58									#25
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Turn to morgan

	08-07-2000 05:27									#26
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2102. PK's turn.

	08-07-2000 06:10									#27
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2103: Hive's turn

	08-07-2000 07:35									#28
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To morgan. My escape capsule had the fortune to land on a rich delta, with three nutrient deposits within it's radius. I expect massive population growth once I get a planned economy going. How're you guys doing?

	08-07-2000 08:19									#29
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2103: back to PK's.

Morgan landed on a small river close to the Monsoon Jungle. No Unity pods around the Highquarters,but 1st one was found 2103 in the Jungle and rich mineral resources were found under it. 2nd colony pod is already inside the Monsoon Jungle,waiting NY:2104 to build our 2nd base.
Land looks friendly so far,but lack of Unity pods may be a problem.

How are we supposed to deal with diplomacy between 3 of us? I propose no negotiation at all between human factions,because AI could do something we don't like. At least,thats my expirience from Civ2 MP.
Other factions are free to bribe for PG or exploatation of any kind,but no human,OK?
What do you guys think about it?

	08-07-2000 08:44									#30
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Do you mean no negotiation of any kind, or just no formal treaties? I don't think the AI will react to just trading tech or maps.