21-04-2001 19:44									#1
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So, we are going to start a new PBEM game.
Ok, What of these two scenarios are going to play colonies II or III?
Members for this play are welcomed: Jay Bee, Henrik, cpoulos.........
Who play?

	21-04-2001 19:58									#2
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I am in. I do not care if it's II or III. But if it's II, I do not have that one Also I do not care which civ to lead, I will crush you all nonetheless

	21-04-2001 20:00									#3
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I have both, but prefer II.

Salutations,
Exile

	21-04-2001 20:08									#4
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I have none, so could someone e-mail them both to me or post links to them, thank you!

	21-04-2001 20:11									#5
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Colonies III is available at the Spanish Civ Site (of course, of course ). I do not know where to download II from.

	21-04-2001 20:17									#6
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Colonies II is available from the Civ2 Scenario Collection and there is a link at the bottom of the ACS forum page. It is right next to the link for the Spanish Civ2 Site.

Salutations,
Exile

	21-04-2001 20:40									#8
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I guess that we are done with our pbem game, right?

	22-04-2001 09:01									#10
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Ooops, I forgot to say which scenario I prefer
It doesnt matter for me, my problems whit collonies III are mainly about the graphics (but there are other stuff too).

	22-04-2001 09:22									#11
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I have to download Colonies II. I handled the start of the 'Modern Era' one, and since it seems to be working, I'll do it again here. I also claim Britain as my civ chioce. Post your civ chioce and e-mail address in the thread, and I will set it up. First come first serve. I don't have the time or patience to worry about who controls what. If your really unhappy with the civ you get, we can talk about it. So get posting, boys, the line forms here. [*]Britain cpoulos, cpoulos@visto.com[*]France Henrik, henrik.lohmander@telia.com[*]Spain Kindal, indalito@yahoo.com [*]Souix Jay Bee, spanish@apolyton.net [*]United Provinces Exile, exile1957@aol.com[*]Iroqious Hogfather, m_carreras@hotmail.com[*]Huron Shaka Naldur, miguelsana@juno.com
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[This message has been edited by cpoulos (edited April 22, 2001).]

	22-04-2001 09:26									#12
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I want France.
My first choise would have been England (not brittain in the 1600's ) but that is allready taken
Isnt this way of picking civs a bit unfair?
what about those people who has modems (and therefore is restricted in thier time online) say one of them just visited this forum before you posted and wont connect again untill tomorow.
I dont know of any better system though (possibly rolling a dice over civs that more than one person wants)
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	22-04-2001 09:50									#13
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hmm... I managed to post when trying to edit my message
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	21-04-2001 22:14									#14
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As far as unfair, maybe. But it's the only way to get the game moving. Other wise, you have endless debate about sides, and it never gets off the ground. I'm always flexible about sides, but I'm not flexible about people who like to delay and take their time on such matters. PBEM is a long term comitment of at least several months. Some people lose interest, others drop out because they are not doing well, and variuos other reasons. If people except the rules of the game, then it moves foward. This particular game has been under discussion for two months already! It could take another month to decide an alternate method of picking sides, and then another month of actually picking those sides, and on, and on, and on, untill the game never gets played. This way, the game will start on Monday or Tuesday, not two months from now.

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	21-04-2001 22:42									#15
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ASPAÑA PA´ MI
(traslate that I think that no translator will understand it: SPAIN for me)
kIndal-> indalito@yahoo.com

I think that we play with normal movement, double the production and allow the diplomacy.

	22-04-2001 00:07									#16
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The one nobody wants for me. spanish@apolyton.net

Resounding NO to doubling anything. The game should be played just as John designed it.

	22-04-2001 01:49									#18
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Iroquese sound fine to me. Weren't those the guys who killed the last of the Mohicans?

seriously, I'd prefere something more.... latino (if there is any -Aztecs or Mayans).
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	22-04-2001 03:07									#19
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I just took a look at the scenario. These are the tribes, in turn order:

1. Sioux Jay Bee
2. Iroquois Hogfather
3. French Henrik
4. Spanish Kindal
5. Huron Shaka Naldur
6. English cpoulos
7. United Provinces(Holland) Exile

Please make a selection. In "The last of the Mohicans" by James Fenimore Cooper, the tribe that wipes out the Mohicans were named Mingo. The Iroquois is the nearest in the scenario to them.
Edit: Happy now, Exile?
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[This message has been edited by cpoulos (edited April 22, 2001).]

	22-04-2001 03:17									#20
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I'll take the Dutch. We're playing Colonies II, right?

Chris, "Iroquois is the closet [?!] LOL!

Fruedianly, (is that a word?)
Exile

	22-04-2001 03:43									#22
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Ok, so the Dutch it is. When will this game start up? It's a pbem, right? Chris, just let me know when you're ready to try the Verne thing; we can begin anytime, I just need to go fix some coffee. I take it you received the turn 11 Modern Age? If this message is all over the place, it's because I was up all night. Now going on 30+ hours without sleep. Hoo boy! hallucinations can be fun.

edit; actually, the word "Iroquois" is plural, so you would need to say they are nearest, or, to be even more precise, because we are speaking of the past, the past tense should be used. So the phrase would be "they were nearest." Yadadadadadadada

Beddraggled, (if it's not a word, it is now)
Exile
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	22-04-2001 03:51									#23
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The game will start when the last slots are filled. The Sioux player will have to go first. I just checked my mail, and the save is there, so I will play it and send it along. I need about an hour to start the verne thing, as I haven't eaten, and I have to put the little guy to bed, and he has to have his story. In honor of the game, I think it will be Captain John Smith.

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	22-04-2001 03:54									#24
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Amerindians are for sure the weakest civs to play with. Considering these and other factors I pick the Lakota...hmm sorry, Sioux

Now I remember that the Aztecs were in Colonies I. Why do not we play that one instead (not being serious here, just kidding)
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	22-04-2001 05:36									#25
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Of course this means that you will begin the scenario, Jay Bee. We only need the last two slots to be filled to begin. When we are ready, begin another 'history' thread, and we can chronicle the game, as we are doing with Modern Era. I also agree with Jay Bee, normal production, and with Kindal, full diplomatic access for all. All that remains is difficulty level. I'm not a fan of the higher levels, and it would make it really hard for the native tribes if it is on the higher levels, so I suggest we play at Prince. Let's enjoy the game, not fight the system.

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	22-04-2001 05:47									#26
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Prince is fine with me too. Just a picky note. The scenario has to be started by the protagonist civ (assuming of course there is one, which I believe it's the case). I very much doubt the Sioux fill in these shoes.


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	22-04-2001 06:12									#27
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Very possible, but I have never played it. I only posted the listed turn order.

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	22-04-2001 07:01									#28
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Give me them damn Iroquois... Die frogs die!

	22-04-2001 13:39									#29
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ok with dificulty level.
I think that cpoulos must start because Britain is the first nation of moving so if start other one, the computer will play some nations.

	22-04-2001 17:06									#30
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Right on, kindal