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As far as we know it's got to be the germans.
Having superior tanks in the modern era is a great advantage.
I'd play Greeks too but I'm pissed at the portrait of Alexander the Great. It's wrong. He should have long hair not short. This was one of his very well known characteristics. And he looks desperately constipated in the pics. This is not awe - inspiring. It's sad.
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Oct 2000 time: 05:14
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22
As far as we know it's got to be the germans.
Having superior tanks in the modern era is a great advantage.
I'd play Greeks too but I'm pissed at the portrait of Alexander the Great. It's wrong. He should have long hair not short. This was one of his very well known characteristics. And he looks desperately constipated in the pics. This is not awe - inspiring. It's sad. |
Do you really believe the German panzers can outwit the U.S. Abrams?...give me a break.
For one thing, I happen to speak a bit of german, and the word "panzer" means armor, or tank, so I think that when they refere to the name, Panzer, they are talking more about the King Tiger Tank, or the Panther...anyway.
According to history, the German "Panzers" had approximately 3 inches of armor, and an 88mm gun...
and the modern U.S. Abrams has about 6-8 inches of armor, and
has a gun of 105mm, and don't forget that awesome M60 machine gun it carries on its turret, so as you can see, the panzer tanks are no match for us americans. 
sorry to get off the subject, I would say we can't vote for any civs since we know almost nothing about them.
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Do you really believe the German panzers can outwit the U.S. Abrams?...give me a break.
For one thing, I happen to speak a bit of german, and the word "panzer" means armor, or tank, so I think that when they refere to the name, Panzer, they are talking more about the King Tiger Tank, or the Panther...anyway.
According to history, the German "Panzers" had approximately 3 inches of armor, and an 88mm gun...
and the modern U.S. Abrams has about 6-8 inches of armor, and
has a gun of 105mm, not to menchen the M60 machine gun it carries on its turret, so as you can see, the panzer tanks are no match for us americans.  |
The America M-1 has a 120 mm gun with no, I repeat No machine gun unless you attach one on top of the turret (50 cal.) Ref: M-1 tank crewman sunday June 17, 2001 Travis AFB Open House. All early M-1 have been upgraded to M-1A2 status.
I play at the American most of the time, However I have played every Civs in Civ 1 and 2
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Chronus
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"Doesn't everyone want to play the civ that represents their nationality?"
Sometimes . . . but it's really not that important to me.
Take the Americans out for all I care. I rarely pick them anyway. It's my own civ, not the American (or whoever) civ.
Some people take this nationalistic/pride/ego thing a bit too far, whining to death because their nationality isn't in the game. A few months ago, someone even mentioned that they wouldn't buy the game if their country wasn't in it. For crying out loud . . .
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Vrank Prins
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Haarlem, Netherlands
Sep 2000 time: 05:14
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There's something to say for al off them, and I can't choose the Dutch, and we're doubledutch the best, so I'm not going to choose.
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KrazyHorse
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Macedonia
May 2001 time: 00:14
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf
In my opinion, the Vikings are much more worthy of a spot among the golden 16 than the Zulus, Iroqouis and Germans. |
Now you're getting unreasonable. The Vikings were significant in world history for something like four hundred years. I'll agree that as simple individual civilizations, the Vikings had more impact than the Zulus or Iroquois (but not the Germans; the Germanic tribes placed the northern limit on expansion by the Roman Empire and the Germanic nations of Austria and Prussia figured significantly in every major European conflict from the Middle Ages onward). First off, I see the Zulus and the Iroquois as representatives of their regions. North American civilization as a whole had more impact than the Vikings did individually. This is equally (if not more) true of central and southern Africa. Also, the Firaxis team is taking what I believe to be a balanced approach in which civs to include. Civilization is about replaying history, and just because Europe dominated modern history in this Universe doesn't mean that it was fated to be so. Europe is represented by approximately half the civilizations in the new game even without the Vikings (England, Spain, France, Rome, Greece, Germany and Russia are almost certainly in, and I include the U.S. as European), and I believe this is sufficient to represent the major importance of Europe as a region. Asia gets China, India, Persia or Babylon (not both) and almost certainly Japan. Africa gets Egypt and the Zulus. Central and South America get the Aztecs. North America gets the Iroquois. 8-4-2-1-1; sort of mathematical, isn't it?
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