21-06-2001 10:49									#1
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i'm dissapointed.....

	21-06-2001 11:12									#2
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Does this have anything to do with the page loading time thingy? So why did it take this page a whole 17.85 seconds to load?

	21-06-2001 11:48									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Does this have anything to do with the page loading time thingy?

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quote: So why did it take this page a whole 17.85 seconds to load?

i'm at work(256k connection) and the reply page took 3.525 seconds to load

	21-06-2001 11:49									#4
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and 3.155 seconds for the thread after the reply

	21-06-2001 12:00									#5
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Ah, now, perhaps, we can get some decent stats!

7.58 seconds to load this thread...
9.28 seconds to get the posting window...
7.19 seconds to reload thread on posting...
7.63 seconds to get the editing widnow.

	21-06-2001 12:13									#6
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and your style/avatar settings are?

	21-06-2001 12:22									#7
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10% dicount on a T-shirt!! Cool. You know us Americans just love T-shirts of any kind. So when are the T-shirts comming out?

I guess I should note that I have all the options loading up so my time may be slower than those with the light version.

For example this page took all of 16.86 seconds to load. Not bad I guess.

	21-06-2001 12:38									#8
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All the bells and whistles...

This is a company box--my home settings are different.

Oh--7.80 (thread load), 8.95 (text box).

	21-06-2001 15:04									#9
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Everything seems to be running quite quickly since you installed the timer. Maybe it's like when you take your car to the mechanic - as soon as you have definitive proof that something is wrong, everything mysteriously works perfectly.

	21-06-2001 15:10									#10
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With the advantage of being connected to the university network with colossal amounts of bandwidth, the first page loaded in 2.033 secs and the reply page was 1.892 secs. Not bad eh?

Nice feature, I will have to see what kind of time I get at home on a measly 56k V90...

	21-06-2001 15:26									#11
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At university too, loading took 20 something seconds, the reply loaded in 16.157 seconds.

	21-06-2001 15:44									#12
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To load this thread took: 5.137 seconds
It's been mostly between 3-4 sec, which is acceptable IMHO

Using Netscape 4.71
CivIII / Light view

	21-06-2001 15:51									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Nice feature, I will have to see what kind of time I get at home on a measly 56k V90...

Okay,
I'm not quite sure what MarkG has done exactly, but I'm guessing that the time is the processingtime on server.

Meaning the time it takes for the server, after receiving your request, to make the SQL-database search and generate the desired www-page for output to you.

This means that the time ain't including the transfertime. So slow/fast connection doesn't affect the server-response time shown.

I can be wrong, but I guess this is what MarkG has made.
MarkG: Am I wrong?

	21-06-2001 15:59									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Jeje2 I'm not quite sure what MarkG has done exactly, but I'm guessing that the time is the processingtime on server.

no, certainly not

if you see the page source you will see that it is just a javascript that calculates the time it takes to load the page.


the processing time you refer too is usually 0.3-0.7 seconds

	21-06-2001 16:15									#15
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Now here are my times using T-online as provider.

88.81 seconds to load this thread...
11.46 seconds to get to the log in window...
25.43 seconds to get the posting window...

One question MarkG when you add this loading time feature?

120.67 seconds to reload this thread after posting (and I thougt it was longer)...
82.88 seconds to get to the editing window...

Last edited by Martin Gühmann on 21-06-2001 at 16:21

	21-06-2001 16:19									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann One question MarkG when you add this loading time feature?

yesterday


your style/avatar settings?

	21-06-2001 16:24									#17
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG no, certainly not if you see the page source you will see that it is just a javascript that calculates the time it takes to load the page.

Gee, I'm taken by supprice. Well done
Nice little javascript function.

Okay, now I do wan't to ask a little more about the javascript...
You use .GetTime() function, so now I guess that the page is sended in pieces to client from server and the time calculated is the time from recieving the first packet until the last one.

=> So total time form request to final page is somewhat longer time.
Am I now right?

	21-06-2001 16:36									#18
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Now here are my times using Talkline as provider. (Yes I changed the server)

2.97 seconds to get to the log in window...
8.18 seconds to get the posting window...

I used Netscape 4.5 (Now it works for me with Netscape4.5), no cockies, you know the settings before the log in, after the log in no avatars and CTP2 default style. I like the features from the default style message icons and view counts.

16.09 seconds to reload the thread after posting
6.16 seconds to get to the editing page

	21-06-2001 16:52									#19
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Since you mentioned the timer in another thread, I've never had more than a 10 second load, and is usually under 3 seconds. Granted, I'm still using the "lite" setting from the office, but at home, I'm getting similar times in default mode over a cable modem. So things seem to be moving better than before... because there WAS A PROBLEM before, but now it seems to have gone away

	21-06-2001 16:59									#20
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Everything on - T3 connection at work - 4.72 seconds for thread
press back to force reload - 3.19 secs

to get this page: 2.58 seconds

to return to thread: 17.36 secs

to enter edit: 2.85 secs

	21-06-2001 17:01									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Jeje2 Okay, now I do wan't to ask a little more about the javascript... You use .GetTime() function, so now I guess that the page is sended in pieces to client from server and the time calculated is the time from recieving the first packet until the last one. => So total time form request to final page is somewhat longer time. Am I now right?

first of all, i found the javascript ready

second, the script works this way: the count starts when the head of the page is loaded. this means that the server processing time or any lag before the server starts sending the page are not included in the count. the count ends when the onload event for the page(called from the body tag) occurs, which happens when the page is fully loaded.

	21-06-2001 18:33									#22
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If it makes you feel good Markos, I did noticed it yesterday.

I've DSL and usually I load a thread page at about 5-7 seconds.

	21-06-2001 18:41									#23
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Page loading time 23.07 seconds.
Response window 18.9 seconds.

Better, but not the best.

If we order T-shirts, will they take six months to arrive?

	21-06-2001 18:52									#24
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Hot damn, now I can more accurately quatatized how much of my life I expend here.

	21-06-2001 19:03									#25
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Ok, if everyone else is getting load times less than 10 seconds (moslty) then why is it that I haven't had a load time on any page of less than 20 seconds! I am using a 128K ISDN line at work! HELP!!!

	21-06-2001 19:21									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Rhuarc Ok, if everyone else is getting load times less than 10 seconds (moslty) then why is it that I haven't had a load time on any page of less than 20 seconds! I am using a 128K ISDN line at work! HELP!!!

Do you share the bandwith on your ISDN line with other people? I have access to a T1 line at work, but it is slower than my cable modem at home due to all the other people using it at the same time

	21-06-2001 19:22									#27
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Excellent tactical judgement, waiting until most of the new server constipation had been eliminated before installing this feature.

	21-06-2001 19:22									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Rhuarc Ok, if everyone else is getting load times less than 10 seconds (moslty) then why is it that I haven't had a load time on any page of less than 20 seconds! I am using a 128K ISDN line at work! HELP!!!

you are not opening many pages from apolyton at once, right?

	21-06-2001 20:06									#29
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Where is it?

I DID look at the bottom of the page. I am not that silly.

	21-06-2001 20:40									#30
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These results are for this thread, which has now 30ish posts in it. In smaller threads, and particularly on-topic, I have loaded mostly in 7-15 seconds. Here however:

Page Load : 55.69
Reply Page : 29.66
Edit page : 21.04 (strong possibilty that I was loading other Apolyton pages at the time)

Last edited by Immortal Wombat on 21-06-2001 at 20:53