23-06-2001 09:45									#1
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Yes, I too have a secret project. I am hoping that this one will actually someday be finished for people to play it.

Master on High (aka Fast Eddie) is playtesting an early version for me at the moment, so this hopefully won't vanish into oblivion like so many other secret projects that have come before.

In the meantime, I'll post a few unit icons, a la Polaris to torment you all and create false anticipation.

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	23-06-2001 11:24									#2
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Great War?

	23-06-2001 12:35									#3
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oops
Thats what the first post said

	23-06-2001 12:50									#4
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It's another WWII scenario! This one has America in it.

	24-06-2001 01:58									#5
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If it's what you told me over ICQ, Scott, I know what it is.

That unit is very nice.

Is this the same project I helped you with the rivers on the map?

	24-06-2001 02:51									#6
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From the direction of the unit (?) i hope that its a WW2 Scenario set in the pacific. its been well never done before to have a decent one Anyway heres hoping

	24-06-2001 03:43									#7
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Looks WWI to me. After all, that was the Great War, wasn't it? Hey, mabey its about America somehow joining the Germans instead of the Allies in WWI? Why not?

Ioanes

	24-06-2001 04:06									#8
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Something looks mighty funny about that unit...German machine gunner (you can see the tip on the guys helmet) with an American flag? Alt. history? Turtledove?

	24-06-2001 05:56									#9
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Ahhhhh good point. If that is so even better! YAY! i love turtledove. I have every book of his i think. apart im missing one from the WW2 AH books. well ill be tuning into this room to see the developments. But in Turtledoves world the US invent helmets and give them to the germans

	24-06-2001 06:11									#10
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Good guesses, all.

I'll definitively say that it isn't a World War 2 scenario, though.

Now more eye candy for more guessing.

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	24-06-2001 08:35									#11
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ALRIGHT! History rewriting!

The confederates won the civil war and are a seperate nation. Things go on fine untill the Great War breaks out in Europe. Then the Yankies and the Confederates are pulled into the fray and are at each others throats again!

I've heard of the Author and the Book, but I can't recall their names! AGH!

Eitherway, it looks good. Might want to fix the spike on the helmet, its off. Move it further right so it doesn't look like its off center to the helmet.

Ioanes

	24-06-2001 19:38									#12
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The books are by Harry Turtledove and they are.

How Few Remain.
Great War: American Front
Great War: Walk in Hell
Great War: Breakthroughs

The Confederates win the civil war in 1862 because the orders for lees march were never found by the Yankees thus Lee takes battle where he wants (Camp Hill) He wins and lincoln pulls more soildiers back from the west and Braxton Bragg Takes Kentucky for the CSA. England and France force meditation on the USA.

Then in 1881 a generation after the civil war the CSA buys two provinces off Mexico so that they can link up to the Pacific Ocean. The USA doesnt like this and declares war. England, France and the CSA beat 7 shades of **** out of them apart from in Montana Territory where a Force commanded by General George Custer with a Volonteer regiment headed by Teddy Roosevelt himself beats back the British. All through this Germany is trying to make an Alliance with the USA because it sees a lot of potential.

Then 1914. ArchDuke Ferdinand dies And everything that would happen in OTL happens but the CSA is part of the Quad Entente and the USA is part of the Triple Alliance.

Let Battle Commence.

Of Course if i am wrong then ill look stupid lol

	25-06-2001 00:07									#13
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Someone got it right, but I'm not going to say who. That would be telling.

It should be pretty obvious soon. In the meantime, I am looking for a few really dedicated playtesters (not a bunch of playtesters who will take the scenario and then never send me any feedback).

And another preview image:

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	25-06-2001 00:24									#14
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polaris2k_99@yahoo.com

Send it by and I'll playtest for you.

	25-06-2001 02:17									#15
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send it to aznlove@aznraps.com

	25-06-2001 02:34									#16
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Ill give it a go dont worry about feedback lol i cant stop myself talking lol

Grothgar_1999@yahoo.com

Thanx

	25-06-2001 02:59									#17
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seems that the email i gave is down;

send it this one please;

dai_vietminh@yahoo.com

sorry for the inconvience.

	25-06-2001 04:12									#18
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ill test it
dabbler8623@aol.com

	25-06-2001 04:26									#19
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Are you making this sceanrio for FW, MGE or TOT?
If its for FW, I'll be very happy to test it for you, please send it to me at: nick_dowling@hotmail.com

	25-06-2001 04:46									#20
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The scenario is in MGE.

	26-06-2001 02:57									#21
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As everyone has pretty much guessed, it is a WW1 scenario based upon Harry Turtledove's books.

At the moment I'm having a bit of trouble drawing the tank and plane units. Any help in drawing these other units (in the isometric or "Nemo" style) would be greatly appreciated. Until then, I have to settle for "fill-in" units from other sources.

Another unit:

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	26-06-2001 03:12									#22
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I might be able to help you out some. The units I draw are in Nemo's style. I kind of have a lot on my plate right now though. I am also making some units for Grothgar and Case.

	26-06-2001 04:48									#23
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Scott, a while ago Nemo posted the following tank unit, which he said he had drawn for Alex's never completed Russian Civil War Scenario.

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	26-06-2001 04:53									#24
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Scott i advise you take up that offer by Jimmywax

Ive played about 1/4 of the way through the game at the moment. Here are some points i think need addressing


1. Where is the confederate fleet? they dont have one in this scen but do you think they would have built the cross country railroad and then not had a pacific squadron. And they dont have to build a Navy out of nothing this time so they should have something.
2. Mormons are too powerful. Way too powerful with them i conquered San Francisco and Las Vegas with ease. Why not make them just defensive units because in the books they never took the offensive apart from once.
3. I think the confederates get too many units especially from washington DC it seems like they dont smash it flat but quickly build up an industrial base and units pour from it like an open wound

Those are the main three points i like this subject and want someone to get it perfect


P.S Jimmywax how are youy coming along with my T-80 etc?

	26-06-2001 06:16									#25
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Looks good, Scott.I'm looking forward to playing this when you get it finished.

Just don't make me wait till I retire.

	26-06-2001 09:13									#26
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I never got around to the american civs, I've only played the Germans, French, and Russian civs...and it's a very good scenario!

I just haven't quite gotten the hang of massing 20 artillery units to take a city yet...

	26-06-2001 10:23									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Grothgar P.S Jimmywax how are youy coming along with my T-80 etc?

It's being a pain in the butt. I am having a hard time getting the turret right.

	26-06-2001 10:32									#28
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Ah hell, I can't stand it anymore. Send me a copy would ya' I have to see this. Hellonwheel247@netzero.net

	26-06-2001 23:29									#29
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Ack! I'm jumping in late, but I'm a big fan of the books and would love to playtest

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	27-06-2001 17:33									#30
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I'd be ever so grateful if someone could draw a few tanks (barrels, heh) for me. I need a Mark IV (Nemo's should do, since mine sucks), a German A7V, a German A7V/U, and some sort of light tank, possibly a Whippet.

Pictures of the German tanks can be found here:

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/1stpzs.htm

I did a pretty good artillery piece, but my tanks suck.

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