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Grothgar is offline Grothgar
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i doubt it caspian everyone is scared of the access to the med that anyone with spain on their side would get so youve actually managed to keep your neutrality. Good on ya

And an era of peace yeah right with germany and england against france and italy with russia and turkey yet to proclaim their alliegance things will probably keep cools for about 10 turns an then BOOM!! war

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Me thinks perhaps that Great Britain has the most to lose if Spain was to ally with its enemies. With disputed access to the med France and Italy would be able to carve up the British Empire in North Africa being that they have their own mediteranean ports.

Of course, France would be hard pressed enough fighting on two fronts against Britain and Germany without a Hostile Spain across its Southern border

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"Spain is in despair that we have not yet received a favourable communique from our noble french neighbours. Surelly they do not plan to shun our hand of friendship?"

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"Spain is in despair that we have not yet received a favourable communique from our noble french neighbours. Surelly they do not plan to shun our hand of friendship?"

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France scoffs at Germany imply that we are young, we were a power long before Germany was united and we shall be such long after the Prussian Eagle is slain.

France accepts the Spanish Neutrality with apprehension.

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This Editor wishes to point out that the German Protector, Ioanes, did not imply that France was young and impetus, but that her youth (aka young persons) , impetus as ever, must be curbed. The translation from German to English to Spanish to French must have had some complications in the translation.

But seeing as France sees herself as an ancient sage, her self laudation must be crushed by words, something of which the Germans are known for, having sentances of some length that it often drives poeple of other linguistic backgrounds insane; however, if France does not wish to listen to reason, the sword must suffice for the pen. :doitnow:

Protector Ioanes calls to America, for Germany's sons and daughters are now apart of her distict American culture, to refuse France help for her arogant speach. Please stay with Jefferson's advice and stay out of European polotics, as you have done before.

End Editorial.

Exile, I noticed that when I take Paris that America 'joins' the war. I haven't bookmarked all that happens, but I would suggest events that could prevent this, or have America join the Germans. Plus you need to have at least a text box for when Germany captures London, you know, since this scenario is largely a 'what if' scenario.

Ioanes

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Most of the events have been removed in the mp events file. Instructions on how to implement this file instead of the normal events file are now in the readme file. Simple business of renaming the two files, not complicated at all. In the mp events file, there are no American units arriving in Britain for the simple fact that the alliance systems might not be historical. However, a text blurb remarking on the fall of national capitals is a good idea. I'll go ahead and write some things and put them in.

Thanks,
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King Caspian of Spain wishes why the French are apprehensive towards our request for neutrality? Do they believe we have some alterior motive? Do they not accept our words of honour? Is there a blemish on Spains history that would lead the french to beleive the Spanish anything other than honourable?

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Exile,

I was wondering if the Austrian country is supposed to be as under-developed as it starts out. Is this historical, or is it to keep Germany from being too powerful?

Ioanes

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A little of both, actually. I wanted the Balkan region to be an underdeveloped area with several competing interests; British, Russian, German, Turkish, and Italian. Also, I underrepresented the railroads in that region, in between France and Germany, and in Russia, to prevent the sort of "rail-line Blitzkreig" that is so common in developed scenarios that start with railroads. The reality is that there certainly were railroads connecting Germany, the Low Countries, and France, but if I'd put them in, it would have generated bad results, essentially making it too easy for the human player/s.

Has anyone spotted any flaws/bugs/problems lately? I've corrected what I hope were the last few, and am generally satisfied with the current version, but I'm always anxious to hear feedback from anyone who's played it recently.

Exile

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This is a test.

But it is also an announcement. I will be sending the final version of Age of War to the European Civ2 site and the Civilization Fanatics site sometime today.

All those still interested; go for it.

Exile

SunTzu is offline SunTzu
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I would like to be hmmmm who should i be, this game will be sooo interesting hmmm Russians or the Ottoman Empire..........I choose the Ottoman Empire
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Who wants to ally with the Muslim Master?

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I'm in. If anyone can just explain to me the basics of PBEM games, as I am new to this. I'll take the remaining Russians, if they're still available. Looking forward to it!

Morten Blaabjerg; email : hardjoy@worldonline.dk

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I made one little post in civfanatics and suddenly we have the two players we lacked
Lets get this game going!
What difficulty should we play?

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Morten here is a description of Pbems (there are some good ones in the spanish forums if you would like to have a look at ongoing ones), you get the save which is a .net file, then you host a multiplayer (tcp/ip) game and load the file, don't wait for anyone to join and start the game, then you play your civs turn, but you do not hit end turn at the end of your turn (instead you use the "end player turn" in the "orders" menu (or you just hit ctrl-n)), then you save and send the save to the next player, and you also post the save here along whit a sort of proclamation of what you did during your turn (again for examples look in the spanish forum, the collonies III game and the European Crisis game are excelent examples).

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Well, I guess the Tsar will go first then...

Just one question though, diplomatic negotiations? -I guess if we can agree to tech trades we'll do it as gifts to the other players, right?

-And we'll use the latest version of the scenario, downloadable from CivFan a.o.s.?

-And change the events.txt to the multiplayer events-file?

I'll take my turn now, as soon as I have gotten your email-addresses into my little folder, and it'll be on its way.

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HORDES OF DIPLOMATS LEAVING ROME IN A MASSIVE DIPLOMATIC EFFORT!


Diplomats are reported to leave for Moscow and Istanbul at an incredible rate, Italian emperor Henriko Lohmandero proclaimed in a speach earlier today that: Hopefully the wise Tzar and Sultan realizes that we cannot allow the world to be ruled by the Imperialist Brittish and thier German puppet king! An invitiation to join the Pact of Marseilles also known as the Franco-Italian Alliance has been presented to them both, this will hopefully help to maintain world peace and contain brittish domination!

Whit those grand words our beloved emperor Henriko I left the cheering crowd outside his palace in Rome.

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Diplomacy is conducted via emails (which allows for more accurate pacts and non agression treaties, etc) and on these boards.

Then the effects are conducted in the game, no diplomatic action may be taken in the game unless the players have agreed to in the forums (except for perhaps a declarion of war).


Multievents will be used and the latest version will be used.


For difficulty level I nominate Prince as it wont give the AI (human players not playing thier turn) any unfair advantages (atleast I think thats why Prince is prefered in pbems...)

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Well, Prince (Major) in this game is good for the russians. (happiness problem solved!)
-might be too good. It might be worth considering. -That'll make for more war, and more fun. Personally I hate it when all production comes to a halt because those rebellious workers take time to revolutionary meetings etc. And that's the Tsar speaking there...

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Yeah we play on prince because that doesnt give anyone any disadvantages or advantages while the other humans are absent

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"Our mighty Tsar Nicholas II now wonders if he should command one of his Generals or his highly acclaimed Field Marshall to Rome, in order to have a personal meeting with Emperor Henriko... concerning this proposal. He has some concern about the part concerning the british, but would probably agree to sign an agreement, which took aim at containing German imperialist ambitions and aggression.

It should be emphasized, that the Russian people will not seek any alliance against our British friends. Our concern is merely the potential hunger of German imperialism. We most warmly welcomes the friendship of our capitalist moneylenders on the british isles and in Europe, and says a big HI to our moslem friends in Anatolia. We do demand some room for action on the Balkans however, where we will seek to reinforce ancient Russian values and interests."

So said the courts spokesman earlier today. According to our correspondent, he has sent Field Marshall Vetrovsk to Rome, and General Sibordskij to Paris as well as Madrid, to seek confirmation of the rumors in the Italian press, and to strengthen russian diplomatic relations. But it is also said in the corridors, that General Mussiadskij is sent on a secret mission to the british isles, in order to obtain further loans to maintain industrial development. It is the Tsars personal hope that new loans obtained with the british banks will be able to pay the creditors for some further 3 months, and he is asking for an amount no less than 1000 pounds in exchange for good faith. -The loan is supposedly to be paid back with sharing the secret of a land reform act planned sometime in the future.

Skt.Petersburg press.

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HEADLINE: Germany Sends Feelers to Newcomers

Ioanes Schroeder, the protector of the German and Austrian Nations has sent but one diplomat to Russia and one to the Ottoman. But far from being a disrespectful gesture, these emissaries are there to find the political climate in those nations, and not to talk the ears off of foreign ears.

Earlier today, Germany, as a charter nation of the Democratic Alliance, extended the hand of freindship to those nations that would embrase such freedoms for her people. The signing of such Treaty shall benifit all nations that would join. But the goal for democracy is a requirement. All who are forced under despotic and fuedalistic societies shall be liberated in due course. This editor sees that the Italian despot shall regret his backstabbing.

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Gentlemen we have our game!!!

Here are the final people


Russians: hardjoy@worldonline.dk
Italians: henrik.lohmander@telia.com
French: Dai_VietMinh@yahoo.com
Germans: JMShrader@aol.com
Turks: WMCS44@aol.com
English: Grothgar_1999@yahoo.com
Spanish: alan.bartholomew@lineone.net


THE TIMES NEWSPAPER JULY 7th 1900

The Prime Minister Gary Smith today proclaimed that England and Germany were bound in a "Pact of Steel". "Any aggression towards one of these powers will result in a declaration of war by the other power." These were Mr Smiths words and it is a clear warning that any aggressive action against the German Empire will result in the freezing of assets and aid from the British empire as well as the complete obliteration of the russian fleet by the German Imperial Navy and the Royal Navy.
Diplomats were also observed leaving London on trips to places unknown. It is assumed by this editor that they are going to Istanbul and Moscow to try to promote the Alliance For Democracy. It should be noted that Germany and Britain are part of this alliance and that any further entrants, what with spain being neutral, will be welcomed with open arms. He invites russia to join the alliance and he said that this would solve the "imperial hunger" that the Tsar implied by allying the 3 greatest nations on this continent. Together these three nations could manipulate european affairs forever. He also invites turkey to join this alliance or at least to proclaim neutrality to the Alliance battles that are soon to break out.


Game note if anyone joins the alliance i will gift them the democracy tech and also germany and britain will share all techs with all the other members as per the accords on the treaty.

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MAN! That was fast!

Please everyone be aware before starting to implement the multiplayer events file. Instructions on how to do this are in the WarRead file. For the most part, the multi-player events file simply deletes the vast majority of events, but there are a few little scattered events left. Taking neutral cities will not plunge anyone into war with anyone else.

I am really looking forward to seeing this one play out.

Enjoy.

Exile

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I can't find in the WarRead file how to do the MP events thingy
how do i do it

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rename the events to something different and then remane the MPevents file to events. its that simple

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For negotiations you have to do them either here or by email as henrik has said. Ie if you want to ally with someone you set your attitude to enthusiastic and then your friend does the same and then he seals the alliance and then the next turn you do some trading etc the nature of pbems mean you cant do it in one turn like on a multiplayer game but we will work round it. Also dont ask me for democracy if your not going to join the democratic alliance. also no taking advantage of the attitudes. ie if i was enthusiastic to russia and then russia asked me for a tech i would give it to them (or the AI would) wether i liked it or not. if you do this expect to get kicked off. so no plundering the german, brittish, and french for techs without prior notice

there we go im looking forward to this.

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Ok -I've sent you the savegame, Henrik, without ending my turn. So I figure when you start your game you'll naturally pick the Italians as your playing tribe, and thus the AI won't take any turns. I still don't get why selecting "end player turn" is disabled for me, or how selecting this from the orders menu should be any different than clicking "end turn". But well, here it is.

-We have received this communique from the courts spokesman.

"The russian court most warmly celebrates the diplomatic relations with the most glorious democratic alliance. We are envious at the efforts in our great brothernations as to their great industry and commerce, and we would like to continue the negotiations, and we are particularly interested in securing the Balkans as a sphere of interest for Russia. It is vital for russian interests to intervene in the case of Bucharest and Galati. In return for allowing russian actions in the Balkans, and the sharing of democracy, we will provide the democratic alliance with a strong backbone against the mongol hordes and the decadence of barbarism."

Early this morning the russian standing cavalry was given leave to return to their farms and cities, to help increase trade and the massive building of banks and freights. This seems to be part of a large-scale rearrangement to prepare the russian agrarial-based economy for democracy and further industrialization. Loads of quality russian machinery is now in production for the industrial markets in London and Central Europe. "-We wish nothing but peace and a good trade" said the finance secretary this morning, "-And we trust our friends with the democratic alliance won't object to these aims." There remains however, a standing force of our best infantry and artillery that will perfectly stand foreign attempts at our sovereignty, it is assured by a spokesman of the War Cabinet.

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Upon the warm reception of the Russian court, Ioanes Schroeder, protector of the German nation, hartily accepts Russia into the Democratic Alliance should her intentions be honorable. Being as trade and continental peace of Democratic nations has been spoken of in Russian courts, once the Alliance is formaly signed, Germany and England would be gald to assist our Russain brothers to greater heights. Ioanes himself plans to visit the Russian Tsar to discuss ways to industrialize and democratise Rusia without making the nobles in the land rebelious.

Ioanes is quoted to have saying, 'The Alliance Democratic should be able to contain and suppress the unsettling coups and riotous insurectionists in Italy and France.

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MASSIVE INDUSTRIAL REFORMS BY OUR NEW LEADERSHIP

New orders has been recived by the foremens of practicaly all factories in Italy, apparently the industry is going to gear up significantly. Acording to an anonymous source employed in the textile industries of Genoa Industry and development is receiving a whole new priority.
The statement by our beloved and cherised emperor Henriko I was obviously not just talk.
"This nation will not be the new sick man of Europe"
Rumours state that the national treasury has been all but emptied in new investments, but these rumours are firmly denied by the Imperial ministery of Propaganda.

DIPLOMATIC ACTIVITY WHIT FRANCE INCREASED
The amount of diplomats on missions to France has increased signifacantly during the last months and the relations between Italy and France are indeed getting friendlier, it is rumoured that a pact has been signed in Marseilles.
Again this is firmly denied by the Imperial ministery of Propaganda an offical employed there has stated that:
"I cannot confirm nor deny any of your information, yet you can rest asured that we will come to our French brothers help when they are in need.
I am sure they would do the same for us!"


NEW RAILWAY LINE CONECTING FRANCE AND ITALY UNDER CONSTRUCTION

Orders concerning the construction of a new railway line crossing the French-Italian border has been initialized by the Imperial Engineer brigades, the railway in both nations has also been adjusted so that trains from both nations will be able to travel un-hindered to destinations on the other side of the border.
The new measurements on rails has been developed by French and Italian engineers in close cooperation and now both nations are adjusting to the new standard.



RUSSIA JOINS THE IMPERIALIST BLOCK (ALSO KNOWN AS THE " 'DEMOCRATIC' LEAGUE")

The head of the Imperial Ministery of Propaganda stated in a speech earlier today that:
"It is a sad day for Europe and the world when glorious nations like Imperial Russia agrees to serve the imperial ambitions of Brittain."

We where unable to reach Emperor Henriko for a comment.


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