26-06-2001 04:57									#1
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For this scenario we will play on prince difficulty. the civs are listed below in order of play. Just put your email after the Civ you want to play and we will get going. I would like however that France, Germany and Russia is filled up before anything else then Italy then Turkey then spain last of all if anyone wants to play as turkey or spain. Because Russia etc are the main civs.
Thanx

Russians:
Italians:
French:
Germans:
Turks:
English: Grothgar_1999@yahoo.com
Spanish:

Oh yeah the Scen is Age of war by exile hehe

	26-06-2001 05:55									#2
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I'd like to play as the French by where can I get the scn?

Dai_VietMinh@yahoo.com

	26-06-2001 07:24									#3
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Im afraid youll have to ask Exile that one its still in playtesting but its so minor its almost the complete article

	26-06-2001 08:26									#4
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Well, I'm happy that someone wants to play Age of War as a MP game, after all the work on it so far, it seems that mp is almost certainly the best way to play it.

But . . .

It's hardly a finished product. It is still largely a work-in-progress. I conceptualized a couple of weeks ago and actually began work on it only last thursday. Every day I end up testing and changing things. For example, the version that I have now has a new wonder; the Maginot Line (Thanks to Henrik for that idea). And although this new wonder is placed, I have not even had a chance to test which tech it should be finally linked with. It is now tenatively linked to the Public Utilities tech, but in no way is that final. I am still working on both the People.gif and the leader dlls. Now, granted, both of these latter two things are cosmetic changes that will only make the game look good, but the reality is that the tech tree changes after every single time that I test-play it. I can say that the units will probably not change at this point, that the wonders will not change, and that the improvements will not change. But as for events, techs, links of wonders, improvements, and units to the prerequisite techs--all of these are still up in the air, and certainly require further testing to get right. I expect it will be another couple of weeks of intensive improvements before the realization hits me that no more are necessary--and we've got a finished scenario on our hands.

Grothgar, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your readiness to launch into a mp game, nor express my heartfelt thanks that you have been willing to playtest this monster. My suggestion is that you go ahead and recruit your players and I'll send out the latest version to anyone interested. Then, when you've assembled all the necessary civs, I'll send out the very latest version to all involved. Hopefully by that time the scenario will be sufficiently advanced to the point that it will be both a good test of the thing and a lot of fun for all concerned.

What I don't want to happen is for everyone to get into playing it, get 20 turns into the scenario, and then suddenly discover a glaring "bug" of some sort, thus wasting everyone's time and effort.

I'll watch this thread to see what develops

Salutations,
Exile

	26-06-2001 08:36									#5
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I'll take the Germans.

Russians:
Italians:
French: Dai_VietMinh@yahoo.com
Germans: JMShrader@aol.com
Turks:
English: Grothgar_1999@yahoo.com
Spanish:

We sure this is the order?

Ioanes

	26-06-2001 12:24									#6
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Edit: Ooops, France was allready taken


In that case I want the Italians.

My mail: henrik.lohmander@telia.com

	27-06-2001 03:16									#7
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Yes im sure its this order i played a hotseat by myself with 7 players and thats the order that came up


Right so at the moment we have

Russians:
Italians: henrik.lohmander@telia.com
French: Dai_VietMinh@yahoo.com
Germans: JMShrader@aol.com
Turks:
English: Grothgar_1999@yahoo.com
Spanish:


Now i would, before starting, like to have at least the russian being played by a human because that balances out the powers. The Turks and Spanish are a bit too backward to play but if anyone fancies a challenge then just put your email up.

Of course history can change in this. England allied to Germany hmm lol. of course we are agreed that no negotiations should go on without prior notification by the two people it involves. Ie send them a private message on here and then play your turn and put your response on worshipful and then offer them an alliance etc

But we can do this.
Rule Brittania!!!!!


P.S exile its my pleasure for this scenario. its amazing. i love the map!!!! (have i said that before )

	27-06-2001 04:17									#8
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You better not backstab me with Germany my friend instead we should crush them

	27-06-2001 05:30									#9
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Sorry France, but I intend to make nice to Britain. After all, where not Britain's and Germany's kings brothers? Besides, being as I have no far off colonies to take care of or establish, I have no need for the navy which came between the two countries anyway. Rather, I propose an alliance with Britain to contain French aggression. France is Britains natural enemy, and I'm sure England would want her possesions back. Never mind they've been in French hands for who knows how many centuries.

"Headline: Germany's king abdicates the throne to a little known Welshman going by a Greek name who came from America."
Ioanes Schroeder (as his last name translates into German) hopes to keep the peace between the fueding factions of Europe.


Don't those look so cute?


Ioanes

	27-06-2001 06:24									#10
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Daily Telegraph June 22 1900

SMITH ELECTED PRIME MINISTER!!!!!

Early this morning as the votes were totalled up it emerged that a Mr Gary Smith was to become the next Prime Minister. Gary Smith of the Liberal Democrats has been the main opposition to the Conservative Government under Anthony Balfour. Still it seems that he has taken an over whelming majority in this election. Out of 659 parlimentary seats Mr Smith and the liberal democrats managed to take 525 of these seats. 92 went to The Conservatives and the other42 seats went to the labour party.

Mr Smiths policy has been one of complete honesty from the outset and the people elected him because of his amazing flair for diplomacy. His foreign affairs minister, Henry Gladstone, and Mr Smith himself have been instrumental in the talks between the German Empire and the British Empire. Many matters of concern were sorted out and the people of britain hope that Mr Smith can keep the alliance with the French going as well knowing the animosity that the Germans and French Feel for each other.

In his acceptance speech Mr Smith quoted "I and my allies shall not allow tyrants to continue unchecked on ths continent. I feel it is my duty to see to it that Czar Nicholas II is tried for crimes against humanity! To this end i am in the process of forming an alliance with the German Empire under my very good friend Ioanes Schroeder. Let this day see an era of stability and peace settle across europe. I invite my esteemed colleagues from France and Germany to form the Alliance for Democracy. This Alliance will ensure that all of our children can grow up in peace. But be advised that any country that messes with belgium also messes with the British Empire. Apart from this i invite my estiemed collegues to sign this document that i have prepared for the formation of this Alliance for democracy!!!"

Mr Smith then stepped down to a thunderous applause. We believe that some of the points in this Alliance are:


1. Free trade throughout the three countries
2. A united navy made up of the three navys but with clsoer co-operation.
3. Free movement of troops through the respective countries to borders that are threatened.
4. Free sharing of technologies obtained during the course of this alliance.


I hearby sign the above document and promise to prosecute these tasks to the best of my ability.

Gary Smith, Prime Minister of The British Empire

"This will bring peace in our time" was Mr Smiths last words before he quit the chamber.

	27-06-2001 06:37									#11
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See what your scenarios done exile!!! its so good that the political manuvering has begun even before the game has started i look forward to this and iwasnt joking about the above statement

	27-06-2001 07:04									#12
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Looks like Mr Smith left Washington and went straight for London!

Ioanes Schroeder, in a still contraversial move, signes Mr Smith's Democratic Alliance, as it is now commonly known. However, untill France signs this treaty too, I can only be wary as to her intent.

Though remaining a monarchy at a national level for now, Germany's cities and provinces have been organized into republic states, each of which will be represented in the future by their own vote in the national parliment. In turn, the parliment will be headed by King Ioanes, untill which time, he will give power to an elected President, which Ioanes will hope to run and continue his administration.

Ioanes will conference soon with Britain to plan the attack on Czarist Russia, particularly concerning the details of the sea attack and coordination, and for that matter, the proper division of Russian protectorates.

Ioanes

	27-06-2001 07:40									#13
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And i thought AoI was unrealistic

France's president Raymond Poincare sent this letter to the British ambassador:" Allied are we since long ago, ended your splendid isolation did we. Now you ally with the Hun menace, we must question your logic in that course of action."

To America:"Helped you gain your indepedence did we, where was germany then?"

	27-06-2001 13:13									#14
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I don't like this, what kind game are we going to have if the main actors suddenly ally whit eachother?

There wont be anything to do

This age was about the nations of Europe competing with eachother, real life Germany wouldn't agree to become the lap dog of the brittish empire (and I am a bit suprised that a human controlled germany would )

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	27-06-2001 16:34									#15
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Ahh my good friend the italian ambassador Henriko.
As you can see the good people of france are against this union with the german empire which could produce friction in the near future. And as for Germany and England allying they were allied against the french not 20 years ago in this time line in the Franco- Prussian war so there is no reason why it wouldnt happen again.

As JMarks said the english and german kings were half brothers so an alliance is not out of the question.

The PM Mr Smith welcomed the integration of the German Empire into the alliance for democracy. While realising that the Germans are not yet a democracy he welcomed the integration of free elections into the German Empire. He also sent a non to subtle warning to the french not to mess with the new alliance because, In Mr Smiths own words, "No nation in the entire world can compete with the Twin collosi of the British and German Empires."

This could be intresting
Right what im thinking is that we should wait a week for any last minute entries and then go ahead with the game. hopefull exile will also have one of his last updates ready for this PBEM game

So if you want to join ask exile for the scen and then put your email up.

Thanx.

Gary Smith, Prime Minister of England

	27-06-2001 18:38									#16
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Ioanes Schroeder, at a press conference met the allegations that Germany is now Britains 'lap dog'.
'These allegations will not go unchecked. Rather we will meet them head on. Germany has allied herself with her true friend because we CAN, and we WILL get along and cooperate for a common goal.

'These hateful slurs seem to be coming from France. She evendently wishes to divide Britain and Germany assunder, driven by her own hate to us Germans. People of Germany, do not fall into the lies!'

To France, if your so concerned, why not set up a triple alliance with Italy and Russia? (sure no ones playing Russia now, but hopefully they will) That'll make for an interesting game.

Ioanes

May Germania and Britania rule forever!

	28-06-2001 00:32									#17
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THE TIMES June 28th 1900

The Prime Minister Gary Smith today launched a scathing attack on the french reluctance to join the democratic alliance. He said they are either with us or against us. He proposed that seeing as the french didnt want peace they should go to hell. He said that for too long Britain under the misinformed leadership of the conservative government had "cuddled" up to the wrong empire.

He said that Germany were Englands true friends and that Ioanes Schroeder and him should meet soon to put into practice the points that Mr Smith had layed out from the beginning. He also proposed a rapid build up of the british armed forces because they were "woefully thin" all around the world. He also proposed joint strategy with the Navies of the two empires.

This editor thinks that Mr Smith is drumming up anti french feelings among the people of this fair nation and also sympathy for the german cause sandwiched as they are between the two unfriendly powers of France and Russia.

	28-06-2001 01:17									#18
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Millitary Cup in Rome!
In a bold move earlier today Henriko Lohmandero and a few of our armies best officers deposed the hated Monarch Victor Immanuel our former king.
The king didn't put up any resistance and was quickly sent away to an unkown destination.
Later today the Pope Leo XIII crowned Henriko I the first emperor of the Italian empire.
Henriko who was priviously the Italian ambassador in London made a few official statements about what his reign would carry whit it for the people of Italy:
"Diplomats are being sent to France, Russia, Spain and the Ottoman Empire to help contain the obvious signs of expansionism from the Brittish and thier German lackeys, we can only hope that the wise French king realizes what the brittish are trying to do and that they will reach an agreement whit our diplomats."


"Industrialization will be rapid from now on, a nation must live in it's time and not in the past, Italy shall not become the new 'Sick man of Europe'!"


It seems change is upon us, and these will prove to be interesting times indeed.
Jiovany Lohmandero
Editor of the Rome Tribune



And no, I have no Idea of how to spell Jiovany.
I probably got it wrong but you get the point


Edit:
Silver wasn't a great colour for those quotes

Last edited by Henrik on 28-06-2001 at 19:43

	28-06-2001 02:52									#19
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"As the events of the last few days have proven peace is on a very fragile knifedge in europe. To this matter i have introduced a measure through the house of commons to expand the British Empires standing army and Navy. The rise of dictators and military coups cannot be allowed to continue. In Third World countries like Persia and Iraq this sort of behaviour continues but i never in my entire life thought that i would see it in europe."

Mr Smith talking about the success of the coup of the former italian ambassador to london Henriko and his rapid rise to power. In an embarrassing judgement which showed up Mr Smiths shock and inability to see things after the news he ordered the expulsion of the italian ambassador from london until he realised that it was that very same ambassador who had just been crowned Henriko I.
This follows the expulsion of the french and russian ambassadors 3 days ago because as Mr Smith put it "These nations oppose england and germany from taking their rightful places in the sun so what right have they to be here at all!!?"

As this editor puts it. "Not very diplomatic way of saying get lost!" It seems like war on the way and Mr Smith seems intent on getting britain caught up in it. Temperatures seem to be cooling throughout europe and i think this will become known as the "Cold War" as you could put it.
The Battle lines are drawn (i think)
The Empire Alliance: Britian and Germany
The Quintuple Entente: France, Russia, Italy, Turks, Spain
Maybe

Samuel Clements
Editor of the TIMES Newspaper
June 29th 1900

	28-06-2001 03:35									#20
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Not mabye but assured so

Quality against Quantity.

We shall bury you.

	28-06-2001 08:04									#21
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Well, since no human players are playing Russia or Ottoman yet, they can't be counted in any alliance, so thus far, two factions are arising.

Anglo-Saxon Alliance aka Democratic Alliance

Franco-Italian Alliance aka The Coup Cooperation

Ioanes

	28-06-2001 11:45									#22
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Of course i was just saying the best possible sides for the PBEM and we might have someone playing as the russians soon. hes going to let me know as soon as he can.

	28-06-2001 17:51									#23
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Oh joy, now I get to be completely surrounded by enemies! Unless theres reformation in Russia. Don't bet on it though, Russia is a stuborn country.

Ioanes

	28-06-2001 17:53									#24
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Where can u download this scenerio? I'd be interested in maybe playing spain or something, but I'd have to get familiar with the scenario first.

	28-06-2001 17:58									#25
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This is a playtest of Exiles scenario Age of War, you will have to ask him to be a tester

	28-06-2001 18:24									#26
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After I get it back from Gothmog. He is fixing a troubling problem and after I get it back from him I'll make a few small changes myself. Then I'll be happy to send everyone a copy of the newest version. It will be worth the wait, as the new version will be very close to finalization.

You're new around here Caspian, what's your story? Henrik--you know the rules; why didn't you first accuse him of being a dl?

Saluations,
Exile

	28-06-2001 19:40									#27
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I think we should try to get players for all nations, so that means that Russia and the Ottoman Empire are the ones left to get players for.

quote: Henrik--you know the rules; why didn't you first accuse him of being a dl?

Ah, how could I forget

	29-06-2001 23:07									#28
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I think your right hendrik that we should wait for all players because if as we are saying germany and england are going to ally then everyone else needs to ally with each other to have a chance of stopping them.

As i sad i think i have a russian player lined up but hes going to get back to me withing 5 days

	29-06-2001 23:25									#29
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That's Henrik whitout a 'd'

I think "Hendrick" would be the german variant (and I'm Swedish).

Last edited by Henrik on 29-06-2001 at 23:34

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