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jpk
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Minneapolis
Feb 1999
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Suppose the characters from the Harry Potter novels played Civilization. How would they play? What would happen?
Hermione would be a tremendous micromanager.
Hagrid would modify all the special squares so they would be animals. The wilder the animal the better.
Draco Malfoy would change the special pattern so each of his cities had 21 specials.
The Great Library would never become obsolete because wizards would see no reason to discover electricity.
Some might think this is a joke topic. Well it's not!
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Ken Hinds
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OK, it's a nice thread, but for us IT people who spend our time reading manuals instead of interacting with society at large. What's a Harry Potter and why doesn't he get a shave if he is so hairy?
Thanks,
Ken
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Oldman
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Livingstone, Lord Protector of London
Apr 2000
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Lord Voldemort, Doh, ****, Sorry... I mean, He Who Must Not Be Named would be a complete megalomaniac, sort of a Wizarding version of Good old Ghengis Khan, destroying anyone who got in his way!!!
He's just gotten himself a new body and is about to nuke Harry by the look of things, this the 4th book is geting exciting!!!!
Oh, and why is the US version of book 1, Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone called H P and the Sorcerers Stone? any ideas????
 
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SCG
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of less than all that I see
Jun 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by Oldman on 08-21-2000 04:38 AM
Lord Voldemort, Doh, ****, Sorry... I mean, He Who Must Not Be Named would be a complete megalomaniac, sort of a Wizarding version of Good old Ghengis Khan, destroying anyone who got in his way!!!
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So you're saying the fellow who couldn't kill the infant Harry might try and take advantage of every bug he could find in the code? 
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Oh, and why is the US version of book 1, Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone called H P and the Sorcerers Stone? any ideas????
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My guess is that philosophy doesn't in any way indicate something magical over here. And with the idea of magic being so captivating for kids, it was probably a good marketing move.
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April Cantor: Sire, in order to expand further we must first gain favor of the King
SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince
*goes off and starts gifting gold and techs*
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SCG
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of less than all that I see
Jun 2000
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Originally posted by Oldman on 08-21-2000 10:42 AM
Obviously Harry Potter is just way over your head isn't SCG, i don't blame you!!! I mean i know how hard it is you old folks to grasp simple plots sometimes, i mean god knows, the crap some of you watch on tv...
...you might want to try graduating down to lord of the rings, then the hobbit, then possible a fighting fantasy book by steve jackson, then maybe you'll be able to figure out why You Know Who, couldn't kill harry!!!!
... Marketing move indeed?!?!?!!?
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Oh, just Lovely, now you're picking on me ,
can't say I've read Steve Jackson. How does he compare to Pournelle, Niven, Forward, McCaffrey, Saberhagan, Asimov, Bear, Clarke, or Anthony? I'm sure I missed a few 
As for why I think it was a marketing move, have you ever seen the US entertainment business, especially the movies, ever not tamper with something?
Speaking of movies, I hear over there they may have already selected a young lad for the lead role.
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jpk
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Minneapolis
Feb 1999
time: 05:12
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They are really nice books. The characters are interesting. The author creats a lot of neat things that would make a wizard's or witch's life a little easier. I would recommend them to anyone. The first one is in paperback, at least in the US; the second one is either in paperback or soon will be.
If you read them, read them in order.
Scouse Gits, the word "git" appears in the Harry Potter novels and in your handle, maybe it's your name; I don't know. What is a git?
This message was edited to ask the previous question.
[This message has been edited by jpk (edited August 21, 2000).]
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Ken Hinds
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Shadowstrike,
The answer to your question is during the final book if I remember correctly. And just to bring this back to Civ so that Ming The Ever Vigilant doesn't zap us, I'm pretty sure that on someone's site I saw an Earthsea map, I just don't remember which one.
That would lead me to believe that someone out there has done an Earthsea scenario. If, not then I would suggest that when Ged "wins" the spell contest that the events file should provide the Barbarians with an instant Manhattan Project. Every 10 - 12 turns thereafter the Barbarians will launch a Shadowbeast that only attacks Ged. Instead of being Nuclear it drains Ged's strenght bar by 75%. Once Ged learns the Secret of the Shadowbeast, then the Shadowbeasts would have a defence of 0 instead of 99 or some similar number. This would allow Ged to conquer the beast.
Ken
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Oldman
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Livingstone, Lord Protector of London
Apr 2000
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Ken, I've absolutely no idea if that's on topic or not?!?! you've completely lost me!!
jpk, a Git is an insult we use it britain. with Scouse gits, he's from liverpool (like the Beatles) and they're called Scousers, and hence scouse gits, but i'm sure he's an alright guy really?!?!?!
Re: Mr Potter, just buy one and read it!! they are kids books, but the characters are interesting, and it's set in a nice fantasy world about wizards and dragons and magic etc...
I've just read all 4 in the last 3 weeks, i love them all!!! And so long as you don't look for any of them to win a Pulitzer prize, you'll be fine!!
I really want to get the next one, i can pre-order it from amazon, but it's not even been written yet, so i might be in for a wait?!?!
So, what kind of Civs do you think would compare to the various players in Harry Potter, i mean who would be the Muggles? the Death Eaters? Giants?
PS: the last bit is actually a serious question, sort of...
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Ken Hinds
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Now MacUser, that is not entirely true. I have been very faithfully slaving away putting in 15hrs per week of CIV II scenario research time. I'm obtaining information for my Scenario repair project so that we can play FW scenarios with MGE and not get that annoying "Barracks Attack near City X" message whenever a unit that fills missile slot unit or a unit that is destroyed after attacking conducts an attack.
I'm beginning to think that 15 hrs/week is insufficient though and may have to increase it to 20/wk.
Ken
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Oldman
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Livingstone, Lord Protector of London
Apr 2000
time: 05:12
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Hey hold on!!!!! i'm sorry (Sobs uncontrollably), i didn't mean it!!!!! Mr MacUser, will you please tell Mrs MacUser, i'm most dreadfully and humbly sorry, i never in any way shape or form meant to insult, diss or Blaspheme against the bible that is The Lord of the Rings!!!!
I'll have you know that i've read The Lord of the Rings twice, cover to cover, well not all of the appendices... I also actually own 2 copies of LOR and 3 copies of the Hobbit, but i won't go into that?!?! I think that for sheer scale, depth, creativity and brilliance Tolkien is beyond a shadow of a doubt a Diety in his own right!! and Harry Potter while Cool, just isn't a Baggins!!!
I've reread my above statement and see how it may have caused harm, and most Bodaciously regret saying what i said...
I'd also like to add as an after thought that, while people say things they don't mean, do things they don't say, say things they don't do and don't do things they say. We're not all bad and if you try to find the light and truth that is within each one of us, you too can live in peace and sail across the sea...
So there!
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Oldman
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Livingstone, Lord Protector of London
Apr 2000
time: 05:12
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Scouse, [Almight voice of God]Go Forth and Read[/voice]!!! Harry Potter is definetly worth a read, even if you only ever read the 1st book, at least then you've decided not to read the rest on an informed opinion!!!
And Mr Pratchett, you don't like him???? how? why? i mean? what??? He's great, admittedly after 20 some books the style is getting a touch Monotonous, but they're good too!! i've read all the way upto 5th elephant, which is Signed - so there!!!
Back on Mr Potter, Scouse, if you want to get a HP book try amazon.co.uk, i can send you one of those £5 vouchers, they'll deliver the book to your door, next day for £2.54 (rrp £6ish), or use Waterstones.co.uk, they'll sell it to you for £2 and if you want to collect it from one of their stores there is no p&p!!!
Civ Question PS: how do random maps (ie their sizes) affect research rates? is it a uniform scale based on the small, med and large maps?
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Oldman
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Livingstone, Lord Protector of London
Apr 2000
time: 05:12
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"The Lady... I'd sooner face the Balrog again, than face The Lady", Ha ha, I've just seen the irony Tolkien used there, I bet every man at one time in his life has uttered that statement before, ha ha!! Good on you Boromir!!
Sorry, Mrs MacUser, didn't mean anything derogatory to yourself, woman kind, tolkien or LOR!!!! Oh, i'm just putting my foot deeper in my mouth here aren't i!?!? if i don't stop soon i'll be in past my knee...
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