14-07-2001 12:10									#1
	2001 Players Tourney, Round 1: Group B - Markus (Host), Deity, Hydey, Makeo Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

2001 Players Tourney, Round 1

Group B: Markus (Host), Deity, Hydey, Makeo

OK, we gotta get this scheduled.

The best times for me are USA FRi or Sat night. I think we have to schedule this over other games so how about it?

BTW Markus, my slow turns were in Simul mode which exacerbates the serious lag problems I have anyway; so stop whinging about turn length and enjoy the quality of the game.
I was kicking your butt in that game you referred to and I'll kick your butt here too

I have it on good authority that a slowpoke is preferable to a fastpoke......

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To the game, I reckon it would be good form for the host to choose their civ last when we go in to pick civs. I trust Markus more than just about anyone but I think it feels right if the host just holds back.

I agree with the Cavebear rules (as if I had any choice!) and don't wish to add any further restrictions. I was a bit bothered with no unit bribe but now I think it's cool... hope AH doesn't read this

	14-07-2001 12:30									#2
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quote: Originally posted by deity 2001 Players Tourney, Round 1 Group B: Markus (Host), Deity, Hydey, Makeo OK, we gotta get this scheduled. The best times for me are USA FRi or Sat night. I think we have to schedule this over other games so how about it? BTW Markus, my slow turns were in Simul mode which exacerbates the serious lag problems I have anyway; so stop whinging about turn length and enjoy the quality of the game. I was kicking your butt in that game you referred to and I'll kick your butt here too I have it on good authority that a slowpoke is preferable to a fastpoke...... -------- To the game, I reckon it would be good form for the host to choose their civ last when we go in to pick civs. I trust Markus more than just about anyone but I think it feels right if the host just holds back. I agree with the Cavebear rules (as if I had any choice!) and don't wish to add any further restrictions. I was a bit bothered with no unit bribe but now I think it's cool... hope AH doesn't read this

bla bla bla. I want germany, as i play it every single time i play a game. Kicking my ass diety? LOL the game was over the instant me and bezerker co-operated. (need i forget to mention that i started with all plains and white mountains while you had rivers) You can't compete with +50 trade routes etc. Plus my science and tax production was 15% over yours... i hardly call that winning
sat night. is ok. this game better not drag on into next year.

	14-07-2001 12:30									#3
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Friday nights are a lot better than saturday nights for me.

	14-07-2001 13:24									#4
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I played this blowhard, won one, lost one.

He needs to be attacked early, his whole strat is based on trade and keeping distant from rivals - that's why he conceded our first game early - I was right next to him.

He spends virtually nothing on defence - uses 1 warrior even for his major cities. If there are barbs in the game he's f#cked as well.

But if he survives, he goes for a tech lead and then buys an army or navy and comes after you. If you can't kill him early, don't let him get a tech lead. But whatever happens, attack and harrass him at every turn.

He's like Eyes - needs certain settings to be a master. He's a very good player though.

He won't replay our save - wonder why.

Last edited by Alexander's Horse on 14-07-2001 at 15:00

	14-07-2001 14:07									#5
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well this should reaaly be a good game.. markus likes to not defend but go for trade quickly, makeo usually likes to be aggressive, Deity is always peaceful as he values aspotless reputation highly, and hydey is the rreal wild card

	14-07-2001 14:57									#6
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I can also play US Friday and Saturday nights although on the Friday nights I will need to stop for my sons basketball games ( 2 hours) but can give the times of those.

I don't feel the need to sook over which civ I am but you guys should feel free to sook away.

As the huge underdog in this game, I will just enjoy been allowed to play with these 3 civ greats and there differing styles.

Before we start I would like to wish everyone even luck and a fun game.

Hydey the barbarian

	14-07-2001 15:34									#7
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a million to one huhh.. well i will put a buck on you hydey...


Go hydey go hydey !!!!!

	15-07-2001 05:15									#8
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looks like sat is the only day we can all play. So are we playing tonight or what?

	15-07-2001 06:43									#9
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No play this weekend Deity going out and Makeo not here, we must get this started

	15-07-2001 09:30									#10
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Ok, everyone has confirmed for next Sat night which is 10am SUNDAY AUSSIE time... I'll let you guys sort out PST and Mountain time but I think it's 8pm USA EDT Sat night...

BTW Hydey, I only went out cos Makeo said he couldn't make-o it today

	15-07-2001 13:41									#11
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10 am is 6pm mountain time which is ok for me. but i can only play for three hours unless we start earlier. friday and saturday nights are makeo goes out and gets drunk nights.

	15-07-2001 14:08									#12
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Every night is Raz's get drunk night....

	15-07-2001 21:57									#13
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I do my drinking at home. It's cheaper and you don't get in as much trouble. Plus, there are no long lines at the bathroom.

"Fudd's First Law of Gravity: You can't fall off the floor."

	16-07-2001 18:32									#14
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yeah the older i get the less i get out and about, just drink me wine at home now...

But getting back to the topic....

was it coincidence or planning that this groupd was put together ??

	18-07-2001 05:29									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin yeah the older i get the less i get out and about, just drink me wine at home now... But getting back to the topic.... was it coincidence or planning that this groupd was put together ??

For the first round, I do not try and arrange games by ranking, I try to make the games easy to arrange by time zones where possible (and even that doesn't always work out).

I try to keep the highest-scoring players competing in subsequent rounds, though. While I want this to be enjoyable for everyone, the main purpose is to arrive at the "best" player. Unless scheduling makes it impossible to keep the highest-scoring players competing with one another, that is my first selection factor for Rounds 2, 3, and 4.

In an ideal situation, the top-scoring players would all meet in the last round, but sometimes reality intrudes. Last year, it worked out pretty well that way.

	18-07-2001 09:25									#16
	Horse opens book: Go Deity! Put an end to popups!

Deity even money favorite

Markusf 6 to 4

Makeo 2 to 1 and late mail

Hydey 100 to 1 (write your own odds!)

I think I'll have $10 on makeo - Deity and markusf are too short

	18-07-2001 13:04									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Deity even money favorite Markusf 6 to 4 Makeo 2 to 1 and late mail Hydey 100 to 1 (write your own odds!) I think I'll have $10 on makeo - Deity and markusf are too short

I suggest pre-race urine swabs for the entire field. Bags not have to take the samples.

	20-07-2001 03:16									#18
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I see I have been backed in after opening at 1,000,000 to 1.

I'm glad so many of you have put you hard earned cents on me, Raz even had a dollar.

Thanks for that loan of the second computer Horse and keep taking those bets on the others.

	20-07-2001 08:09									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey I see I have been backed in after opening at 1,000,000 to 1. I'm glad so many of you have put you hard earned cents on me, Raz even had a dollar. Thanks for that loan of the second computer Horse and keep taking those bets on the others.

Now, understanding that I do not arrange these groupings with any initial expectation of the results...

Gee Hydey, I think you should be *at least* 1,000 to 1! You underestimate yourself! The odds are at least decent that all the other players computers will die at a critical time. And there is always the possibility of an asteroid striking North America...

See? You have a good chance of winning!

	20-07-2001 08:49									#20
	Hydey is 4:1! Suffering from ads?

You better believe it!!

He was way in front of me and Markus in a trial run last week

Makeo is better than me BTW.

Markus is toast

	20-07-2001 09:42									#21
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Get Shorty

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	20-07-2001 11:01									#22
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me thins this could be a gang up !!!!

	20-07-2001 12:56									#23
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Say about 1978?

	20-07-2001 19:50									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin me thins this could be a gang up !!!!

gee you think? Not only that they are slow as hell.

	20-07-2001 19:51									#25
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quote: Originally posted by deity You better believe it!! He was way in front of me and Markus in a trial run last week Makeo is better than me BTW. Markus is toast

Funny i took over for AH and proceded to kick your asses

	21-07-2001 14:58									#26
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Marcus, Makeo and Deity
I take it we are still set to stat this thing in about 14 hours time.
I will definitely be here to play but due to an accident at work , I have severe concussion and 12 stitches in my scalp, I may require to have an occasional break. I won't know until I get up tomorrow.

Thanks for your understanding.

	21-07-2001 15:15									#27
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is that condition any worse than your inebriated ones !!!

	21-07-2001 22:39									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey Marcus, Makeo and Deity I take it we are still set to stat this thing in about 14 hours time. I will definitely be here to play but due to an accident at work , I have severe concussion and 12 stitches in my scalp, I may require to have an occasional break. I won't know until I get up tomorrow. Thanks for your understanding.

we will kill you off first put you out of your misery

	22-07-2001 04:34									#29
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Thanks Markus, I knew I could count on you to care.

	22-07-2001 08:38									#30
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Well this super game got going today, we soon discovered that we all shared the same land and the mad rush to settle the land began. Some minor squabbling but nothing to serious, at the end of the session it appears Markus has a good lead but Makeo is chasing him hard, Hydey is not out of it in third and Deity is struggling a bit but he is allied to Markus and I'm sure is getting plenty of help. I think the game is quite well balanced with 1st and 4th allied and 2nd and 3rd allied. The next session should prove very interesting.