11-11-2001 09:27									#91
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Yeah the game continues

	14-11-2001 02:01									#92
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I'll have mine done by tomorrow...

It's still 10 turns right?

Joe.

	15-11-2001 02:00									#93
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Here's a quick log to keep the game rolling:

1750
Enter world ripe with war.

1752
Population exceeds 52,000,000.
San Francisco falls to our troops.
Began SETI Program in Caernarfon.
Began shifting massive Howizter production over to city growth.

1754
Began siege of London.

1756
Transport lost to American Submarine. Need our own subs. Rush build one in The Udal & Buffalo.
Found Viking city Ravning Enge in open field southwest of Detroit. Howitzer already on their way.
Troops march into Coventry, converting another city.
London falls to Celtic might.
We accept to talk with the English, but they claim they could crush us if it wasn't for our having the United Nations. We'll crush them. Nottingham appears to be their last city on their mainland.

1758
The English have given Mobile Warfare to the Vikings, and the Vikings gave them Refining and Electricity! We must strike them down before they treaten us any further.
+53,000,000 people.
Our first deployment of a submarine from The Udal results in the victory over an American sub.
Troops capture Ravning Enge, but we must continue our search for other Viking hideouts.

1760
+54,000,000 citizens.
Troops roll into Nottingham, extinquishing the flame that was once the English civilization.
Begin unloading howitzers outside of New York. The invasion of the American homeland begins.

1762
Captured New York.

1764
Machiavelli completes his epic history: 'The Wealthiest Civilizations in the World': 1. Celts.
+55,000,000 citizens.
Chicago falls to the might of the Celtic people.
Thanks to undefended American railroads, Atlanta soon follows.
Discovered Viking city of Birka southwest of Chicago.
Washington falls next to the shells of our howitzers. With it, we capture the Eiffel Tower.
St. Louis follows in the wave of American cities being covered by the global umbrella of the Celtic people.

1766
+57,000,000 citizens.
The Americans wish to talk, but they offer nothing but rude remarks about us. We continue to free their people from their retched reign and welcome them to our glorious and advanced culture.
For just 560 gold, the American citizens of Boston join the Celtic people, bringing with them Shakespeare's Theatre.
Seeing that all built Wonders of the World (except for The Lighthouse) now reside in Celtic lands, we rush build the SETI Program in Caernarfon.
Philadelphia soon joins Celtic rule and progress.
The Viking city of Westness is discovered southeast of St. Louis.

1768
SETI Program complete in Caernarfon.
+59,000,000 citizens.
Capture Birka.
Found Viking city of Skara just north of The Udal. 158 gold bought the people's favor to join the mighty Celtic nation.

1770
Discovered Radio. Began Labor Union.
Captured Westness, brining an end to the cruelty of the Viking civilization.
197 buys the citizens of New Orleans, and converting the last of the Americans to the Celtic culture.


Joe.

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	16-11-2001 00:06									#94
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The 10 turns were over in no time...

1772: The last non-Celtic city on Earth, Yokohama, is discovered just East of Capua. With a cavalry unit at hand, the last defenders are defeated. Unfortunately, the city can't be captured yet.
With the domination of the entire planet at hand, the Druid makes plans to boost scientific progress.

1774: Yokohama falls, the government resigns.
1776: A Democratic government is formed.
1778: Labor Union discovered, research changed to Advanced Flight. A massive Temple construction initiative is started to keep the populace happy. Superfluous offensive units are disbanded.

- 1790: Advanced Flight, Combined Arms, Rocketry, Space Flight and Laser discovered, Superconductor being researched...
Apollo Program built in Rhymney.
Population approaches 65 million.

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	16-11-2001 09:19									#95
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You're kidding me. My turn, and no enemies to fight? And in order to kill any baddies I have to build a ship from scratch and land it within 10 turns?

OK, I love a challenge...

I should have it played by Sunday.

STYOM

	16-11-2001 23:51									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man You're kidding me. My turn, and no enemies to fight? And in order to kill any baddies I have to build a ship from scratch and land it within 10 turns? OK, I love a challenge... I should have it played by Sunday. STYOM

Blame JoeK!! He did it! ... OK, well, I did it a little too, since I could have built the Apollo Program a few turns earlier, but I forgot about it and rush built it in my last turn instead.

	17-11-2001 09:09									#97
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1790: Six Thousand Year Old Man, still remarkably well preserved, attains the Presidency, and immediately begins contruction of a spaceship which will allow us to reach the Brr'til. Do they have things we need? Nope. Have they attacked us? Nope. Insulted us? Nope. It's 'just because' - although I note the Brr'til have a city called 'Kabul'.

Taxes adjusted to 5.3.2. Construction changed in some cities to SS Structurals/Components.

Brr'til learn Steam Engine.

1792: Superconductor discovered. Researching Fusion Power. Hey, who automated the Engineers? FESS UP! Treasury drained to purchase spaceship parts.

1794: Many SS parts built. Granaries sold (360 gold). Some barbarians get pasted near Turin. Taxes adjusted to 6.2.2.

Brr'til learn Railroad.

1796: Fusion Power discovered. Researching Recycling. Sewer Systems sold in 2 cities. Last SS parts rushbuilt, Celt seers having advised STYOM that a 1-1-1-8-8-33 spaceship will reach Alpha Centaurus, centre of the evil Brr'til empire, the fastest.

Brr'til learn Magnetism. 1 tech per turn, hmm.

1798: C.S.S. Cunobelin launched, estimated arrival 1803. Taxes readjusted to 4.4.2.

1799: Recycling discovered. Researching Stealth.

Brr'til learn Chemistry. The cheating alien p*****

1800: A year lacking in significance.

By some miracle, the Brr'til don't learn anything this turn.

1801: Stealth discovered. Researching Environmentalism.

Brr'til learn Industrialization.

1802: Environmentalism discovered. Researching Future Tech.

1803: C.S.S. Cunobelin lands. Ahh, 2 Colonists and 2 Marines... far too distant from the Brr'til to be of any use

1804: Future Technology discovered. Researching Ultrastring Theory. New Lisbon founded on Centaurus.

STYOM retires from the Presidency once again, frustrated that not a single shot was fired in anger.


*** cheat sheet - recall Ultrastring Theory cancels MC, so get ready for some major unrest. The Japanese continent is 'opposite' some major Brr'til territories, so that would be a good place to build some teleporters. ***

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	23-11-2001 11:03									#98
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Anyone else wanna take a turn or should I go again?

STYOM

	23-11-2001 17:20									#99
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Thoth and makka seem to be out, so I´d say Hydey can go... I think he does wanna play, judging from his previous posts.

	26-11-2001 22:23									#100
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I think these are the people left (although Hydey seems to be out as well)...
MBloomIII
Joek
Mercator
STYOM
Hydey

If Hydey, MBloomIII or JoeK (in that order) don't reply before the 29th, I'll play . It'll be a succession game for two then ...

Anyone still alive?

	27-11-2001 22:33									#101
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I'm still playing.

I just happen to be traveling a lot over the last few months. I won't be back home until the 7th or 8th of December to play another turn. I'll just jump in wherever the game happens to be when I get back to my computer.

	29-11-2001 22:40									#102
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Guess I should have checked this sooner... I thought there were still more people before it became my turn again.

So it's now back to me again? (that was quick).

If so, then I'll jump right on it.

Joe.

	30-11-2001 02:33									#103
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Well, if it's my turn, then here's my go:

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1805
Discovered Ultrastring Theory, it cancels Michelangelo's Chapel & SETI. Next: Robotic Warfare.
Over 71,000,000 citizens.
Changed tax rate to 3 tax, 3 science, and 4 luxuries to compensate for losing Michelangelo's Chapel.

1806
Civil disorder in Salamis and New Orleans. Need entertainers in those cities while happiness improvements are built.

1807
Order restored in Salamis and New Orleans, new disorder breaks out in Buffalo.
Over 72,000,000 citizens.
Built New Hamburg south of New Lisbon on the Centaurus world.

1808
Order restored in Buffalo.
Discovered Robotic Warfare which cancels Eiffel Tower. Next: Quantum Transport.
Over 73,000,000 citizens.
Built Prague on an island.

1809
Barbarians ready to take the unprepared city of Issus. Dinas Emrys goes into civil revolt as troops are called out to attack barbarians.
Over 74,000,000 citizens.
Built Salzburg on an island.

1810
Over 75,000,000 citizens.
Barbarians plunder Issus, but Celtic partisans rise up around the city and retake it.

1811
Discovered Quantum Transport. Next: Cybernetics.
Over 77,000,000 citizens.
First RA-MARU complete in Dinas Emrys to deal with barbarians.

1812
Over 78,000,000 citizens.

1813
Discovered Cybernetics. Next: Bioplasmas.
Over 79,000,000 citizens.

1814
Over 80,000,000 citizens. (Note: Celtic people are very enthusiastic when it comes to reproduction.)

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Joe.

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	30-11-2001 03:30									#104
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Great everyone ... I'll be playing it tomorrow (something came up today, something like electrocution to be more specific I'm still alive and kicking I'm happy to say )

	30-11-2001 05:42									#105
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Hey, a question... are we heading for conquest here? Because if we research Transcendence, I think the game ends. And then, no conquest

STYOM

	30-11-2001 06:04									#106
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We haven't discovered it yet, have we? Thanks for the tip, I would probably not have thought of that. That means we can stop researching in the near future (I for one intend to conquer, not transcend).

	30-11-2001 19:10									#107
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I say... kill em all!

Joe.

	30-11-2001 19:26									#108
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1816
Bioplasmas discovered, now researching Hyperentropics.
Population over 82,000,000.
Yay! First AC victory, a Teleporter paradrops into the newly built city of Groomf, on the continent South of New Hamburg.

1818
Hyperentropics discovered, research changed to Reality Engineering. Only Teratogeny is left to research.
Starport built in New Lisbon.
Population over 85,000,000.

1819
Brr'til develop Leadership.

1823
Population over 90,000,000.
Plasman takes over Brr'til city of Wess.

1825 ( played one turn too long, I'm sure you won't mind )
Smer taken from Brr'til by a small army transported from New Hamburg.

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	03-12-2001 00:06									#109
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It is 1825 in Earth Years. An interplanetary war rages between the peaceful, George Harrison-loving Celts and the cruel Brr'til, who seem to favour the Monkees. Thus, it must be a war of extermination. Six Thousand Year Old Man is dragged away from his California-style ranch home to lead the slaughter, all others having sickened at the thought of using Plasmen and Dreadnoughts against stationary Chon-ee.

Hey, nobody said life was fair, Brr'til. Particularly 'human life'.

Let the slaughter begin...

1825: Taxes adjusted to 6.4.0 (0 science). Colonists rushed in some former Japanese cities (for building teleporters). Spy rushed in Wess. Other improvements rushed in former Japanese and French cities (to facilitate building war units). Starport rushed in Carmarthen.

Funny dog-like aliens attack our Plasmen and get toasted.

Smer revolts and government collapses. Ooops. Fundamentalism formed. Three cheers for Druid STYOM!

1826: Stuff is built. Kabul captured from Brr'til.

1827: Khanbalyk captured from Brr'til. Kazan captured from Brr'til. Cyborg and Teleporter landed near Tilani.

1828: Joie captured. Argulot revolts to our cause.

Brr'til develop Machine Tools ("Look out! That alien's got a LATHE!").
Something that sounds like a dying sheep attacks our Teleporter outside Lol Ept, and apparently dies. Maybe it WAS a sheep?

1829: Massiter captured. Lol Ept captured. Tipaly captured. Inhaba revolts. Transport loaded with 3 Plasmen, 3 Cyborg, an Entrix and a Howitzer (how quaint!) sets sail from Kabul, destination Tilani.

Brr'til rebuff our ambassador.

1830: Tilani captured after lengthy bombardment by Dreadnoughts. Lighthouse captured (woo hoo!). Fesheti captured. Ghelis On captured. Epo captured.

1831: Population hits 100,000,000. Qistan captured. Basra captured. Diseman razed by Dreadnought. Taxes adjusted to 2.8.0.

1832: Khorasan captured. Vok captured. Per'ta captured.

1833: Ormuz captured. Shangtu captured. Manhattan Project rushbuilt. Final Brr'tilian city, Ingoba, bombarded by Dreadnought.

Brr'tilian marines land near Carmarthen!! (ok, just kidding).

Ingoba captured by fleet of Dreadnoughts. Brr'til defeated.

(savegame attached prior to fall of Ingoba)

That's all. Who's up for another game?

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	03-12-2001 00:48									#110
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Great Job STYOM!

Great job everybody!

You rack, I'll buy the next round.

I'll be home Tursday if another game gets started. Whatever parameters are decided upon is fine by me.

	03-12-2001 18:44									#111
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I think I´ll be playing this game a couple of times more, to see how I manage on my own, compared to this game...

I´m definitely in for another succession game

	04-12-2001 07:39									#112
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Hail to the Conquerors! Congrats on the victory... Been reading this thread for a while now, was worried that game wouldn't finish, but that was some blitzkrieg of a finish, Six Thousand Year Old Man!

If you need a somewhat rusty king level player for another game , just let me know- sounds like it was fun.

	04-12-2001 11:13									#113
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Thanks for the kudos, Sharpe. Although by that point it was just a case of rushing lots of attackers - we had tons of cash in the bank! Plus I missed out on conquering the earth

OK, the next game: I should probably start a new thread, but anyway...

How about we try Emperor or Deity? Same settings otherwise... on King, we sort of ran roughshod over everyone almost from the get-go.

or

How about the Fantasy game, as the Humans (Large/Raging)? I found the Goblins and Stygians are really, really numerous the few times I played that game, even on King. Could be fun.

anyone else have any thoughts?

STYOM

	04-12-2001 19:53									#114
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Great game, guys!

Lots to learn about.

Next game could be playing the Infidels in the Midgard Scenario.

That would be a greater chalenge than playing the humans.
If I recall correctly, the first events relating to Volsang's Return totally destroy the Infidel's Hometown forcing them to conquer higher ground real soon. There would be pressure from turn one even in King level!

And, STYOM, your right, the Stigians and the Goblins (mostly those) grow like crazy!!!

I don't know if I could play (I'm not even a King level player so I should would make everybody else's game interesting ), but I sure would like to follow such a game.

	04-12-2001 20:38									#115
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Hey guys! I've been following this game, and I'm interested in joining you, if you don't mind!
I accept to play on any game, but I would really like to play a Sci-Fi! I really love those units! And we get an extra challenge for not slaughter the alien civs, because we will need their unique technologies... for a while, of course!
One more thing: I vote for King dificulty level.

What do you think?

	05-12-2001 11:19									#116
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Well, I've never played either of the Sci-fi or Midguard scenarios so I can't really comment on them. I think I'd better try Midguard before my turn comes up, if we do play it.

I'm pretty flexible, as to what game we play. I do think we should probably aim high, so far as the level we choose - definitely King at least, higher if there's Deity players involved.

Ecowiz, Zealot: Don't worry about playing at a higher level. The idea is that everyone contributes and it's challenging for everyone. I'm sure I messed up stuff in the last game, but so what? Gives the next player a challenge And you can learn a lot from watching others - for example, the second time my turn came around I found out about the advantages of having the science city celebrate while in Monarchy, which is something I had never done before

Also, I think MBloomIII's 96 hour rule is a good one. For the new game I propose that after 1 person plays and posts, the next player has 96 hours to play their turns. If they don't play or post before then, anyone else on the list can play that person's turns, provided they post saying that they're downloading and playing it. (this should avoid 3 people playing at once) Once they post, it goes to the next player on the list. Sound fair? It should keep things moving at least (provided there's always someone interested in playing, of course).

The list so far looks like:

Mercator
MBloomIII
Sharpe
Zealot
STYOM

Ecowiz, JoeK, Hydey... anyone else interested?

STYOM

	05-12-2001 16:26									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man Well, I've never played either of the Sci-fi or Midguard scenarios so I can't really comment on them. I think I'd better try Midguard before my turn comes up, if we do play it.

I think you'd better try Sci-Fi before your turn comes up!(if we do play it)

I really find the sci-fi games very amusing and challenging. Either with the humans or with the aliens. But humans are more amusing, IMO.
So I would really like to play a Sci-Fi with you guys, if that's ok.
I already won this game by conquest and spaceship, I think. But I also think that there are 2 more victory paths. I think we should pick one of those.

	06-12-2001 09:37									#118
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I've never played the scenarios either. Sci-fi sounds best to me. But since most of us would be relative novices at this, I'd vote King level for scenarios, emporer for a 'normal' game.

PS - Don't be afraid to jump in and play. You're not being graded on this, it's just for fun. If someone dies, we start over. No big deal.

	06-12-2001 14:40									#119
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Sci-fi games aren't scenarios. They're just a regular game with different units, structures, and some rules too. IMO anyway.

But since you all haven't played on sci-fi, why not play at prince? Because I really never played on anything beyond prince!
I did try Deity, but didn't find it any amusing, since my cities went into revolt constantly and the AI cheated like hell...

	06-12-2001 20:25									#120
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I´ve never played the sci-fi game either... And I´d rather do the Midgard scenario (although I´m not too familiar with that either), but well, anything´s fine by me.
And Zealot, I only play at Prince and King levels myself (and I´m not very good at it either). As long as there are enough Deity players to counter our incompetence we´ll be fine.
And it looks like the next succession game will be Midgard or Sci-fi, so I guess the difficulty level will be King?