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TechWins
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Arizona
Apr 2001
time: 22:14
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One of the reasons why America is so great is because everything is here. That's right everything. Don't try to deny it either. I can go no farther than 3 miles from my house and find so many different type of restaurants and other places. There's pizza, bar and grill, mandarin food, mexican food, a bunch of fast food places (Taco Bell, Wendy's, Burger King, McDonalds, and many others) I could go on and on about how many different restaurants there are. There's grocery stores around here, video stores, movie theatres, great parks, residential, Osco Drug Store (like a Walgreens), and many other places. Yet this suburb I live in is around 100,000 people for pop. About two hours away I could go camping in the forest (yes there's more than desert here). I could go do anything. I could go to many museums, libraries, small amusement park, and again many other places to do something. Now tell me where you could go that is fairly close to you? That's just one reason why America is so great. Now you give me a reason why you country is so great.
This post was intended to those people who are against the US.
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LaRusso
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appendix of Europe
May 2001
time: 06:14
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quote:
Originally posted by TechWins
One of the reasons why America is so great is because everything is here. That's right everything. Don't try to deny it either. I can go no farther than 3 miles from my house and find so many different type of restaurants and other places. There's pizza, bar and grill, mandarin food, mexican food, a bunch of fast food places (Taco Bell, Wendy's, Burger King, McDonalds, and many others) I could go on and on about how many different restaurants there are. There's grocery stores around here, video stores, movie theatres, great parks, residential, Osco Drug Store (like a Walgreens), and many other places. Yet this suburb I live in is around 100,000 people for pop. About two hours away I could go camping in the forest (yes there's more than desert here). I could go do anything. I could go to many museums, libraries, small amusement park, and again many other places to do something.
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yet you sit in front of the computer, arguing with pesky europeans who are jealous of your K-Marts and Ben&Jerrys.
the best cities in the us are very european - nyc, sf, new orleans...
fyinfo. two hours away from my city (nice fast drive) i have 2 other european capitals. on 4 hrs drive i have 4 more. now that does not sound like an oslo drug store but well, i manage somehow 
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Trdi
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Slovenija
Jun 2001
time: 06:14
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quote:
Originally posted by TechWins
One of the reasons why America is so great is because everything is here. That's right everything. Don't try to deny it either. I can go no farther than 3 miles from my house and find so many different type of restaurants and other places. There's pizza, bar and grill, mandarin food, mexican food, a bunch of fast food places (Taco Bell, Wendy's, Burger King, McDonalds, and many others) I could go on and on about how many different restaurants there are. There's grocery stores around here, video stores, movie theatres, great parks, residential, Osco Drug Store (like a Walgreens), and many other places. Yet this suburb I live in is around 100,000 people for pop. About two hours away I could go camping in the forest (yes there's more than desert here). I could go do anything. I could go to many museums, libraries, small amusement park, and again many other places to do something. Now tell me where you could go that is fairly close to you? That's just one reason why America is so great. Now you give me a reason why you country is so great.
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Read the LaRusso's post again.
Half of your post was about getting food, people could think you just don't anything else. WE, we do other things, too. I'm in Slovenian capital now. It's very nice here (and we have many foreign restaurants, too ). One hour from here I can find a beautiful nature with a lot of mountains higher than 2000m. Ski resorts, hotels and even the biggest ski jumping hill in the world fit in the nature, they don't ruin everything, like Americans allways do. A little more than an hour (I'm talking about a car or a train, not the plain) from where I sit I can find large plains with a very low altitude and completely different clima (ask LaRusso). One hour in the other dirrection I can jump in the sea. To the North of that we have Karst (from our Karst comes the word Karst used all over the world). To the east, low hills where the best wine in the world is made (it's the best for me). And between these regions there are all possible variations. Everything in one hour. You eat, we live. 
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Trdi
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Slovenija
Jun 2001
time: 06:14
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quote: short history, based on killing,
The U.S. doesn't just go out and fight for no reason. It (usually) is there at the request of an ally or in response to a direct threat to either itself, an ally, or an underdefended nation.
What???!!!! Who are you kidding? What's that? Are you serious, are you normal?! Have you ever heard about the word 'politics'? What about, let's say, SUDAN? Ah? You came and bombarded a country who didn't do anything to you. Even the responsible for that admitted, that Sudan is not an enemy of USA. Have you ever heard about African wars, Indonesia,.... Why do you act different here if you are SO good. Listen, I could write a book about that, so I propose : Don't, don't talk about the good intentions of American politics and war machine. Deep in your heart you know the truth, all of you Americans know the truth.
quote: slavery
Along with most of the world.
Khm, khm. Heard of word 'based'? You thriving economy and huge power is BASED on slavery, based on blood of people who were not guilty, mean or anything like that. They were black. Tell me only one more succesful country like that. When you were exploiting slaves, hiding with DEMOCRACY (???!!!!) other countries tried to do it different.
quote: endangering the whole planet.
How is that? Our president might not be very bright and our other leaders make mistakes, but we're hardly endangering the entire planet. We're endangering ourselves at best.
Leave the president, let's talk about you. Have you ever heard of word 'global'. Than you know, what means the word GLOBAL???!!! No further comment.
quote: When will USA sign Kjoto(the only one remaining), children protection(just USA and Nigeria haven't signed it, I think), anti-biological weapon (again, only USA need biological weapons) and other treaties?
I don't know when, or even if, but that's a part of democracy. Things like that are discussed for months, sometimes years.
Democracy? So you have heard this word? Strange, because... hmm, if only one country of all the other rejects sth, that's democracy? Nice. And if they reject the Children rigths agreement, that's democratic, isn't it? It is and it's soooo nice. You can be proud on yourself, you are facing the whole world. We are just so primitive, aren't we? We don't understand you, don't we? You, the brain of this planet. You know everything the best. If you say global warming is not caused by CO2, than it is so. You are soooo smart. I think the day will come soon, when you will pack your things and fly to the other planet. You will leave us, primitives on Earth, dying in the filth you are making now.
quote: Without these basic human concepts, USA are not in the civilized world even TODAY.
Right, but the U.S. does have a firm grasp of these concepts, whether it signs the treaties or not. The U.S. has always been against biological and chemical weapons and, to my knowledge, does not use them today.
Oh, you are so smart. Why would they use it now? Other countries would like to sign an agreement, they won't use them EVER. But you, not you. That would hurt your 'national interests', wouldn't it? And then, when the new Vietnam will come, you will use those weapons all over the country.... again.
quote: Karantanija was more democratic than USA today and you can view on democracy from any angle you want.
Yeah, right.
You know nothing about Karantanija and very little about USA politics, so... Americans are very bad informed about things their government does or is planning to do. That can't be democracy, or it is some higher sort of democracy?
quote: Americans don't have ANY culture at all, comparing to European countries
Just because it's different from the cultures in Europe doesn't mean there isn't any. Americans (some) like to be fat, eat junk food, and watch football (American football). This is as much a culture as anything in Europe.
No comment.
quote: I really don't understand what are they doing in Civilisation?
The U.S. has had the biggest impact on the world economy, and without it (to name one example) WWII would've gone on much longer, if it ended at all.
Well, I could tell you many things, which would be better without USA. About WWII, if there woudn't be WWII, USA wouldn't be half that strong than it is today. Last week I watched on TV, how Americans charged everything they could. The extremly high payments for using American monitor technology caused Churchill to order big research in other technologies, but the right technology was found many years later (LCD monitors).
My last point: Don't talk bad about a country unless you live there (and have lived there long enough to really understand it)
Well, I think you just live there too long. I really can't understand, how so many Americans are brainwashed.
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Grumbold
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London, UK
Mar 2000
time: 05:14
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I don't understand why you think that these sorts of facilities are not available in any modern city, TW. While there are cultural differences to what sort of restaurants thrive in a country (Indian and Chinese being far more universal in the UK than Hungarian, for example) I'm simply staggered that you don't think places outside the US have shops, parks, amusements, pubs, clubs, museums, theatres, sporting facilities etc.
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LaRusso
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appendix of Europe
May 2001
time: 06:14
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there is a scene in 'bullworth' where warren beaty, already flippin and telling everyone what he really thinks (and he is running for the post of CA senator) comes to a fundraising event organized by hollywood producers.
since he went mad, PC is out of the window, and, while gobbling on food plates, he shouts with his mouth full:
"i mean, you people, you are very smart and very nice, and yet you produce SO much crap in hollywood that its simply unbearable" or something along those lines.
tech, i bet you have a 'main street' and 'broad street', right? see, the town i am in has a sucky nike store (out of dri fit in the middle of july) and i use public transport instead of the car....strangely, streets are full of american tourists and i bet there are no europeans taking photos of your shopping mall or basketball court . we like decay, old things and impractical things
now tech, join the dark side and say it: "american civ should be out" 
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TechWins
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Arizona
Apr 2001
time: 22:14
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I don't understand why you think that these sorts of facilities are not available in any modern city |
I do undertand that these places are in foreign major cities. I doubt that they're in fairly small cities like mine (Gilbert, 100,000 pop.). What I said is only the tip of the iceberg. They are probably even in moderate size cities as well.
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No, there is a lot of major streets. The main city in my state is Phoenix (about 3 mil, used to only be under 1 mil about 15 years ago). There are many suburbs and towns around it, Gilbert (where I live) is one of them.
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now tech, join the dark side and say it: "american civ should be out" |
So you admitt it, you people are evil.
Last edited by TechWins on 01-08-2001 at 03:56
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Buck Birdseed
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Khoon Ki Pyasi Dayan (1988)
Nov 2000
time: 05:14
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Isn't that taught in Swedish schools? It was back in my day. Okay, so it wasn't that long ago. 
Celts - If some indigenous populations should be in, a European one wouldn't go amiss. That means either Celts or Finno-Ugric tribes, the latter of which only traces remained after the Indo-European invasion (The most "Civ-Like" Finno-Ugric tribe, the Magyars, invaded thousands of years later from the east).
Japanese - A culturally and ethnically separate entity as well as one of the longest-lasting as a power of the ones listed.
Zulus - Really not much justifying their existance, except for the fact that they're just so cool. 
Americans - Definate cultural difference, as well as being the dominant power today.
Aztecs - Bad choice of Latin American civilization, the Mayans (bigger) or the Incas (More Geographically differentiated) would work better. Oh well.
Sioux - Interesting indigenous population. Not good from a "Civ" viewpoint, perhaps.
Carthagians - Offshoot of Phonecians. Perhaps more famous, though.
Mongols - Does "The largest empire the world has ever seen" mean anything to the person who voted for them?
which leaves me voting for...
Vikings. Nothing whatsoever justifies their existance: They lasted as a power for a few dozen years, and a minor one even then. No great leaders or scholars (Alcuin excepted) ever emerged from their midst. Their technical advances were mostly of a military nature, even their amazing work with accurate optics, and much of it was derivative of other cultures. In fact, they were very much "behind" neighbouring nations at the time. As a barbarian tribe, yes, but not as a civilization.
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31-07-2001 04:37
that must suck! 
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