04-08-2001 07:05									#1
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The time has come, I'm leaving again tomorrow... this time to Deutschland, until the 26th of July.

But first, I promised some pics from London, and here they are. I think I'm the first "Spanish Civ2 poster" rto make a public photographical appearance. Feel free to make witty comments.

This is me, at the London Bridge, in front of the Tower Bridge.

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	04-08-2001 07:06									#2
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Now with Raquel, my girlfriend, at the beatiful Regent's Park.

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	04-08-2001 07:08									#3
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And, finally, Raquel in Cambridge, sitting in front of King's College. I love this one!

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	04-08-2001 09:08									#4
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*saves third picture on HD*

vorwärts zu Deutschland!

	05-08-2001 01:33									#5
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Congratulations Fiera, she's gorgeous!!!!

	06-08-2001 02:01									#6
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...and welcome in good old Germany, Fiera...

	06-08-2001 02:44									#7
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26th of August, you surely mean. Nice pictures, btw On your return you've got to tell her to post here from time to time

	06-08-2001 05:19									#8
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congratulaciones Fiera en tu (girlfriend--- would that be 'amiga'?)

	06-08-2001 13:52									#9
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Thank you, guys! I'm glad you like her, and glad that you don't know her in real life! The less competition, the better! Ah, y espero que esta vez no borres la foto, Martín, ya no te daré más...


Bernd,

danke schön! Ich bin schon in Göttingen. This is beginning to be like my second home! Perhaps we could meet some day and have a few beers, if you have time...


Jay Bee,

yes, 26th August is what I meant. But I'll be able to browse the forums often, so my stay will féel shorter this way.


NubeOscura,

girlfriend = novia (at least in my case ).

	07-08-2001 04:46									#10
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You're not going to Erlangen or Nuremberg, do you? In case this is so, tell me when and where

I wish I had a girlfriend like that...

I wish I had a girlfriend at all

	07-08-2001 04:57									#11
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I can catch a train and just go there... Nuremberg is one of those interesting places I still have to visit in Germany, so I wouldn't mind going there. I'm not sure where Erlangen is, but I'll look up for it.

I'm only free on the weekend, any weekend of August should do fine...

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Erlangen is slightly north of Nuremberg, but it's not nearly as interesting as Nuremberg (I know it better though), so if you're not interested in Germany's largest zoo then go to Nuremberg. If you're interested in meeting me there, that's no problem, I always have time for I have holidays now.

	07-08-2001 05:32									#13
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What a lovely young lady, Juan.

You must be very proud!

No wonder you didn't bother with computers on your trip.

	07-08-2001 05:39									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Bernd, danke schön! Ich bin schon in Göttingen. This is beginning to be like my second home! Perhaps we could meet some day and have a few beers, if you have time...

Good idea What other cities do you visit (except Erlangen)? But I´m probably away soon, I also have holidays next week...
Haven´t anything arranged yet (had a bit trouble with my home), but I still hope I can go to Spain this summer Or at least next...but better this...

	07-08-2001 23:03									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 What a lovely young lady, Juan. You must be very proud!

Thanks! Yes, I am.

	07-08-2001 23:08									#16
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Good idea What other cities do you visit (except Erlangen)? But I´m probably away soon, I also have holidays next week...

I haven't any fixed plans yet. I think you live in Berlin, don't you? I can go there, sure. Also, Í'd like to visit Kassel and Dresden, but would be going to anywhere else you suggested.

Perhaps you'd like to come to Nuremberg so we can arrange a meeting along with Stefan (and maybe other German Apolytoners too...)

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Hey guys, I think you must advertise your plans in the off topic section. That way people will see that not only the members of the Brit Brat Pack gather together

BTW, What does 'über alles' mean? I must have seen it hundreds of times .

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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee BTW, What does 'über alles' mean? I must have seen it hundreds of times .

supra a totu chantos...

*Prom takes a look to photos...*

Allora, Fiera, a quando le nozze?

	07-08-2001 23:53									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee Hey guys, I think you must advertise your plans in the off topic section. That way people will see that not only the members of the Brit Brat Pack gather together

Well, if the thing goes ahead, I willcertainly post about it at the OT. And I do hope that it goes ahead.

quote: BTW, What does 'über alles' mean? I must have seen it hundreds of times .

"Sobre todo", "sobre todas las cosas", también "por encima de todas las cosas".

"Deutschland über alles" es una vieja canción patriótica alemana... o quizá sea el propio himno alemán?

	07-08-2001 23:56									#20
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La seconda che hai detto.

	08-08-2001 00:03									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera "Sobre todo", "sobre todas las cosas", también "por encima de todas las cosas". "Deutschland über alles" es una vieja canción patriótica alemana... o quizá sea el propio himno alemán?

De ahi es de donde conocia el überalles ese


Now that I think about it, über, over, alles, all .... pretty similar. Guess Englsih must be a big plus when you wanna learn Tedesco

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quote: Originally posted by Prometeus *Prom takes a look to photos...* Allora, Fiera, a quando le nozze?

Hmm... I think I'll actually become an Emperor before we get maried...

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quote: Originally posted by Prometeus La seconda che hai detto.

Grazie mille!

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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee Now that I think about it, über, over, alles, all .... pretty similar. Guess Englsih must be a big plus when you wanna learn Tedesco

Of course. The prepositions are very similar (in/in, auf/of, unter/under...), and some nouns too.

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Now that we are at it, I always thought that the GDR anthem was beautiful.

And btw, bummer I can't watch Heike Dreschler later tonite. Guess I will have to settle with Grit Breuer. Not the same though

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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Hmm... I think I'll actually become an Emperor before we get maried...

Piglietela pure comoda... a pagare, sposarsi e morire si fa sempre a tempo! (ah, li proverbi de l'antichi! )

quote: ah, li proverbi de l'antichi! --- try to guess where i'm now...

	08-08-2001 00:11									#27
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Deutschland, Deutschland über alles is the beginning of the first verse of the Deutschlandlied, of which the third verse is Germany's present national anthem. After 1922 the first verse was used as the national anthem until 1945/49 when it was replaced by the third verse due to heavy misuse by the nazis. I personally think we should've introduced the former DDR-national anthem Auferstanden aus Ruinen when we had the chance to in 1990. Now we're still stickin' around with this old song of old ideals and antiquated views. The first verse in English would go something like this:
Germany, Germany above everything, above everything in the world
When it brotherly holds together
From the Maas (river in Holland) to the Memel (River in Lithunia)
From the Etsch (Adige, Italy) to the Belt (Denmark)
Germany, Germany, etc.

The thrid verse isn't much better, I think:

Unity and right and freedom for the German fatherland
Let us strive towards this, brotherly with heart and hand
Unity, and right and freedom are the pawn of luck
Flourish in the shine of this luck, flourish German fatherland

I never sing this, and fortunately, I never had to. This song is a hundred and fifty years old, goddamnit, we oughta get something that represents our real ideas in these days.

	08-08-2001 00:13									#28
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...and although I profoundly admire Lance Armstrong, I was sad for Jan Ullrich.

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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee Now that we are at it, I always thought that the GDR anthem was beautiful.

Well, I think that the music of the German anthem is quite beatiful too.

	08-08-2001 00:34									#30
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So true, but the GDR anthem wins hands down. Stefan seems to agree with me too.

Can you believe there is foreign people who actually place the Spanish anthem among the top three ever?