07-08-2001 03:57									#1
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Ok, I see the forum is not as active as it used to be so I wanna contribute to give it more traffic...

And yet are we back to the old Spanish history question: who is (in your opinion) the most influential (note that I didn't write "important", Waku) Spanish person ever?

I won't post my own guess, because I don't even have an ultimate opinion on the matter, so I'll wait for what the others have to say...

	07-08-2001 05:41									#2
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Well, there was this gal many years ago that....hmmm, maybe I better not tell that story.

Most influental, eh?

A lot to choose from, but whom had the most impact?

I'll have to think about it somemore.

	07-08-2001 19:24									#3
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So Fiera, isn't it El Gran Capitan?

Tough question. I don't think you can choose only one. Why don't we pick one per century, era or something?

	07-08-2001 20:11									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera the most influential (note that I didn't write "important", Waku) Spanish person ever?

LOL

I've been trying to think of a person really influential, someone who, somehow, is still alive among us, I think this person could be GOYA.

	07-08-2001 22:33									#5
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Picasso
He's the only one I know everybody has heard of. Columbus wasn't a Spaniard if I'm not mistaken...?

	07-08-2001 22:52									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Stefan Härtel Picasso He's the only one I know everybody has heard of. Columbus wasn't a Spaniard if I'm not mistaken...?

Technically not but to all other effects...yes. Same as Magellan I guess.

Believe it or not, many people I 've met think Picasso was French.


Well, after much thinking here is my #1 pick: Queen Isabella

	07-08-2001 23:02									#7
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What if we think about an "spiritual" influence? What about San Ignacio de Loyola (St. Ignatius Loyola) or San Francisco Javier?

Maybe they aren't that famous today, but they have had a great influence over millions of people.

	07-08-2001 23:04									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee So Fiera, isn't it El Gran Capitan?

Actually, I think he might be the most influential in military history.

	07-08-2001 23:34									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Actually, I think he might be the most influential in military history.

Most definitely. I still can't understand why the guiris ignore so much about him (well, actually they ignore everything)

	13-08-2001 01:33									#10
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Jesus Balsinde

	13-08-2001 01:48									#11
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Hey Maciej, back from holidays I see. We are eagerly awaiting that big question of yours (Al-Andalus thread...)

	13-08-2001 03:17									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee Most definitely. I still can't understand why the guiris ignore so much about him (well, actually they ignore everything)

To ignore anything related to hispanic countries seems to be a part of the anglo-saxon culture. As it has recently been proved.

	13-08-2001 04:10									#13
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Take a look at the last pearl I have just discovered:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...8545#post418545

The Anglos are really obsessed with the Armada, eh? Who teaches history to these guys?

	15-08-2001 02:00									#14
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I already gave one name for the XV century. Here is my nominee for the XVI century: Miguel de Cervantes.

What are you guys waiting for to post your nominees?

	15-08-2001 02:12									#15
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Shall we do it according to a centuries division? Why not nominate the most influential Spanish for each field of human knowledge and culture?

As in:

Most influential in Mil History (we already have El Gran Capitán)
Most influential in Arts.
Most influential in Literature.
Most influential in Politics.
Most influential in Religion.
Etc.

What do you guys think?

	15-08-2001 02:14									#16
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We could do both, couldn't we? We coud pick candidates in all cathegories/centuries and then vote. Does that sound meaningful to you guys?

	15-08-2001 02:27									#17
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Maybe that would be too tiresome. Why not three bigger time cathegories:

1. Ancient / Middle Ages
2. Golden Age (15th, 16th and 17th centuries)
3. Contemporary

With the four "sinchronic" cathegories, that would make 12 nominates for poster. Shall we do it this way?

(Jesús, siento andar siempre poniendo pegas a tus proposiciones en esta tnhread, no es nada personal, eh?)

	15-08-2001 02:33									#18
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Sinchronic cathegories? Me lo repita, joven

	15-08-2001 02:40									#19
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Ya sabía yo que nadie me iba a comprender muy bien. Supongo que la palbra ni siquiera existe en inglés. En español se le puede llamar "diacrónico" a aquel aspecto o circunstancia sujeto a variación a lo largo del tiempo, mientras que "sincrónico" es el que puede ser de varias formas distintas en el mismo momento. Más o menos.

Es que no se me ocurría otra palabra más adecuada.

Pero te hacen esas categorías, o no?

	15-08-2001 02:46									#20
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Si, mas o menos

Lo de meter a toda la Golden Age junta no me termina de llenar mucho...

Okay, make a definitive list of most infuential in.... and I think we could start from there. We'd need like ten (?) cathegories or so.

	15-08-2001 02:56									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee Si, mas o menos

Me pregunto si a alguien que no hubiese oído hablar en su vida de sincronía y diacronía le quedaría clara mi explicación...

quote: Lo de meter a toda la Golden Age junta no me termina de llenar mucho...

What about 15th and 16th Century together, and have the 17th Century as a separate cathegory (Lope, Quevedo, Calderón, Góngora, Velázquez, Gracián, etc...)?

quote: Okay, make a definitive list of most infuential in.... and I think we could start from there.

New thread, sir?

	15-08-2001 03:03									#22
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Make it so!