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Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
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The Metropolis known as Hunt Valley
Mar 2000
time: 00:15
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Originally posted by Locutus
Cybershy,
I tried some things with bogus accounts and cookies a few days ago (with a question which I had already answered of course, I would never cheat!). Cheating is extremely easy if you want to, just delete the cookie and you can log in under another name. Unless Firaxis has all kinds of extremely sophisticated security mechanisms (which seems unlikely) it's impossible to figure out if someone cheats or not (well, if IP numbers are stored somewhere on the Firaxis servers you might be able to detect it in some cases but most cheaters would probably be smart enough to change IP number as well before changing login).
I do think the questions should get tougher. Not only will I never be able to catch up with 10 or 20 point questions, but if I don't even have to think about the answers (let alone look them up) it's not really all that fun anymore...  |
The problem with all of this, of course, is that you can't "go back" and answer old questions. So you can cheat all you want today, but it won't bring back the first week's questions. 
In any case, it's obviously not "cheatproof", but it's not really intended to be. I hardly think people are interested in using public-key certificates, SSL, and account verification just so they can answer a trivia question each day.
Dan
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Donnyb20
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United States
Sep 2001
time: 00:15
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Cybershy,
I tried some things with bogus accounts and cookies a few days ago (with a question which I had already answered of course, I would never cheat!). Cheating is extremely easy if you want to, just delete the cookie and you can log in under another name. Unless Firaxis has all kinds of extremely sophisticated security mechanisms (which seems unlikely) it's impossible to figure out if someone cheats or not (well, if IP numbers are stored somewhere on the Firaxis servers you might be able to detect it in some cases but most cheaters would probably be smart enough to change IP number as well before changing login). |
I believe your right, if you wanted to cheat you could just create 1 - 3 "dummy" accounts and determine the answer in that way. Unfortunately it would be difficult to prevent this because if a person has access to the internet using a computer from (work/friend/cell phone/etc...) the IP addresses would not be similar. I'm not sure how the whole IP address thing works but if there are two computers connected to a network in the same location, e.g. comcast (a LAN connection) where one is my computer and the other is my sister's computer and if we both play the civtrivia game, it does not mean where cheating, just that were both connected to the same network, therefore and again I'm not sure if the IP addresses would be similar but if they were, this would not prove that someone is cheating.
I have not tried to cheat in any way and wont because I actually like researching the answer and reading material about these types of questions, it's part of the fun of the game because you learn new things and the answer . One of the first questions on Civtrivia that some of you might remember was "What was King Gilgamesh's claim to fame." The answer was that 2 out of 3 of his parents were gods, in an history article I read, it said that his father was a god and his mother was a priestess which was considered at the time to be a half god/half mortal, hence 2/3 of his parents were gods.
One way to help prevent cheating would be to have two different questions. One question would be for the top scorers and the other question would be for everyone else, this way it would prevent any "dummy" accounts to be used to get the correct answer for the people with the highest score. This would not prevent anyone below the highest score (even by 10 points) from cheating but maybe make it seem fair to others, and of course this would only work if the top scorers were actually cheating. 
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I thought so. You cheaters are researching the answers! I'm scoring mabout 75% without doing that. Cheaters! |
As for this quote I'm sorry Krazy Horse, but unless this is a joke, I dont understand. If people are cheating by researching the answer than that would probably mean that many (if not all) people should have failed high school and especially college, because the only way you can learn something for the most part is by researching/studying or experiencing it.
Just a little hint to some of you who do research the answers, it's a good idea to reference your answer with 2-3 sources so that your sure you have the right answer.
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Skanky Burns
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Skanky Bastard Quartermaster
Aug 2001
time: 14:15
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I research all the questions... If i knew one before researching it, i would answer it, but unfortunately thats never happened  To say im weak in history is an understatement 
But the way i see it, by taking a 'stab in the dark', i have a 25% chance of getting the answer right, and at the end, discover the answer to that and only that question. However, if i research the answer, not only do i (mostly) get the right answer, but i find out much more *background* information, thus getting more knowledge on history. Which is a good thing considering its a game about history 
By using multiple accounts though, that person will probably only remember todays answer was (B or A, or C, or D), which i dont think would be too much fun.
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Al'Kimiya
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Today was the first day I had to guess. Not a lot of Sanskrit dictionaries out there. I guess I was lucky... or maybe all answers were correct.
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17-09-2001 11:56
Does anyone have less? 
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