28-09-2001 20:35									#61
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Wonder I would like:- The Channel Tunnel The trans-Siberian railway Stonehenge The Berlin Wall and something that is modern Japanese.

Japanese : ; Seikan Tunnel ( longest under water tunnel in the world ) MITI ( the financial planning hub of Japan [ although made a whole mess of the japanese economy recently, it was also responsiblwe for the japanese economic miracle from 1950 -1990 )---> in civ it could give u like an extra trade for every square producing trade in every city for like 20 or 30 turns ( my suggestion )

I also think there are a lack of other asian wonders

	28-09-2001 21:35									#62
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Wonder I would like:- and something that is modern Japanese.

Godzilla, perhaps?

	28-09-2001 23:51									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola Godzilla, perhaps?

Or perhaps the horrific Fluffy Big-Eyed Small-Mouthed Saturday Morning Cartoon Creatures Wonder that makes enemy cities produce trade for you...

	29-09-2001 19:10									#64
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Why doesn't anyone react on my post. I agree you all have great ideas about new wonders. I am sure we can think of another hundred, but wouldn't it be nice that every civ has it's own wonderset. It's damn unrealistic English building the Pyramids. Russians building the Statue of Liberty. China building the United Nations. The Zulu's building the Colossus. That is all just impossible.

The would have had their own civ-specific alternative. That idea is a lot better I think than to make enormous lists of wonders, which will never end.

Oligarf

	01-10-2001 20:26									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Oligarf They would have had their own civ-specific alternative. That idea is a lot better I think than to make enormous lists of wonders, which will never end. Oligarf

I agree, but the lists of Wonders wouldn't be shorter. Hundreds of Wonders for EACH civ... I would like that

	01-10-2001 20:37									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Oligarf Why doesn't anyone react on my post. I agree you all have great ideas about new wonders. I am sure we can think of another hundred, but wouldn't it be nice that every civ has it's own wonderset. It's damn unrealistic English building the Pyramids. Russians building the Statue of Liberty. China building the United Nations. The Zulu's building the Colossus. That is all just impossible. The would have had their own civ-specific alternative. That idea is a lot better I think than to make enormous lists of wonders, which will never end. Oligarf

BUT, the entire point is that you are rewriting history. It's alternate history. Why is it realistic to conquer the world in 1300 or get a ship to Alpha Centauri?

So, just imagine that in your alternate universe, the Zulus developed an advanced scientific culture that allowed them to do feats of engineering and thus build the Colossus. Or that Russia developed as a democratic nation. Isn't the point of the game to do this?

	01-10-2001 21:42									#67
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Oligarf is right when he sais it is strange to see English building Pyramids. I guess he wants to give the English a Wonder with the same effect as Pyramids (for example Stonehenge), and do the same for the Germans, the Sioux, and so on.

This idea was mentioned in this thread before Oligarf did, and I said the same as I say now: it would be nice, but it's impossible. What would the Zulu's call the SETI Project? And what would be the Greek name for the Eiffel Tower? This wouldn't make the list of Wonders shorter, but longer.

	07-10-2001 14:44									#68
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Longer list? ...
What do we want out here? Rewrite history, or write our own history?
That's whole damn point out here, if that's not clear, this discussion is useless.

	13-10-2001 16:39									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Oligarf Longer list? ... What do we want out here? Rewrite history, or write our own history? That's whole damn point out here, if that's not clear, this discussion is useless.

What's the difference?

	13-10-2001 16:40									#70
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